^ spoco2, having previously been a smoker for 20 plus years (gawd, i'm old) i learned to hate people like you. The only comparison that could make you understand what trying to quit smoking is like would be for you to quit one of your own addictions.
try not using your computer. ever again. for the rest of your life. then you might have a little more humility toward your fellow man.

10 years ago I was fourteen and was living on a ranch with my mother’s parents. It was the year I learned to snowboard, got my license, and quit smoking (tobacco). As a painfully shy tom boy, I didn’t have friends (besides my older brother and his crew), or a date (brother beat up the nerds I liked ) The next three years of high school were spent in the TINY town of Circle Montana. At 16 I got a best friend who I would spontaneously takes road trips across the state with. It was though her I got my first boyfriend the summer I turned 17. That summer we ran away to West Yellowstone and felt free…

At 17 with family problems on the ranch I moved to Billings (largest city in Montana). I finished my senior year there while staying in an apartment right across the parking lot from school. I worked washing, fueling, and parking UPS trucks to pay the rent. I almost got married at 19, broke up and moved in with my father’s parents. I started school at MSU as an Environmental Science major. After a year I decided I needed change.

Summer of 2005 I moved to Cookeville Tennessee to go to school at the Appalachian Center for Craft. To afford school, I took a year off and worked in the factories. I was an auto airbag inspector, assembler and typesetter…*yawn*. I finally started school again in the fall of 2006 in the glassblowing program. After a semester of glass I changed to metal. I started in Blacksmithing then shifted towards Metalsmithing. I just started working in clay a year ago and picked that up really quickly. Now I just got to finish my senior thesis this spring and get the fuck out of this place.

I have been down and lonely...but things have really changed for the better.

What the fuck are you talking about? Red herrings and ad hominums abound in your drivel.
Are you suggesting that this video lacks merit because you're disgruntled about the decision to send more troops into Afghanistan?
Or, are you upset with the impending cost of sugar overtaking high fructose corn syrup, suggesting that once I can no longer afford to buy kool-aid, I will see clearly?
Are you talking about Ken Kesey and the Merry Pranksters' Kool-Aid?
Or, once I quit smoking pot I'll become as aware as you obviously think you are?

Why bother to quit smoking? Longer life? You'll miss the last 10 years, drooling in a wheelchair. Better breath? You're getting laid/GF now, aren't you? Yellow fingernails? You're not gay, who gives a shit? Breathe easier? Unless your job involves running from bears, as an adult you don't need to sprint. Ever.

If you're going to choose life, make your vice something healthy, like cigars and pot.

>> ^Enzoblue:
>> ^Bidouleroux:
This is pretty much exactly like religion vs. atheism, with religion being of course smoking.

Anti-smoking is by far the more religious. Smoking is blamed for a host of sundry afflictions with scientific support that no one has the courage to challenge. People want it to be evil and that's what they get. No serious scientist would do any unbiased research, because if he found anything remotely pro-smoking the political fallout would ruin his career overnight.
Our surgeon general states that 70% of lung cancer victims got it from smoking, but lung cancer continues to rise with nary a blip - even though smokers per capita have fallen under 25% and have been there for a decade. If you want me to support this claim with data, sorry I can't. Neither the CDC or the ALA, or any other site I could find, will release any data cross referencing lung cancer victims and smokers. You can easily find how much carcinogens a black single mother of 2 will inhale in a 12x12 room with one smoker, but a table lookup of smokers v lung cancer victims will get you a 404 error. Try it.
That's religion. People needing an evil, ignoring the facts, suppressing the research of facts, all holding hands and attacking with fervor.
P.S.
My lungs get a clean bill of health every year, even though I've been smoking for over 20 years, simply because I've never tell the doctors I smoke. Ask your smoking friends to try that, it'll give them a chuckle.


You obviously didn't look very hard for data then. With almost zero effort I just came accross this in a high-profile peer-reviewed medical journal. There are hundreds of studies comparing mortality rates between smokers and non-smokers with data going back 100 years. I just want to point out the data in that study was from 1951-2001. In "survival rates from age 35" the difference in survival rates between smokers and non-smokers increases to about 20% difference by age 70. That is, you are looking at about 20% of all non-smokers being dead and 40% of all smokers dead. You can always look at the graphs for much more information than I can type here, but it's all very damning.

"But cancer continues to rise!" I hear in a myriad of different "X does or doesn't cause cancer" topics. What you mean to say is cancer diagnoses have continued to rise. 50 years ago we knew a fraction of what we know now about cancer. This is just one example of why statistics is a profession. There's so much to it I can't begin to describe it here.

>> ^btanner:
I normally wouldn't do this, because I don't want to seem like I'm spamming, but I quit smoking about 2 years ago, after MANY failed attempts. I tried gum, patch, Zyban (couldn't sleep when on it), etc. Someone eventually told me about a book, called "The Easy Way to Stop Smoking", by Allen Carr.
I'm a research scientist, and I called BS on a book being able to help me stop a physical addiction. The person was super adamant. I did some research, and I bought the book. Since reading it, I have quit, and 4/4 people in my department that I have loaned the book to have quit.
I won't try to explain why it works, other than to say it puts smoking into a new perspective where it literally seems dumb, and sad. The book emphasizes that you don't need to quit till you're done reading it, and encourages you to keep smoking as you're reading it.
This seems like one of the few times I could say a few words and make a difference in someone's life. So, if you want to quit smoking easily, and forever, check it out. You'll find no shortage of positive reviews. There are some International versions too: I read the Canadian edition.


Yeah, you know, I have that book and I haven't read it yet. I also have heard that it works miracles. I am waiting for the right time to open it up. Gonna try the e-cig. Then, we'll have a go with it.

>> ^Flood: Why I smoke? Other than the physical satisfaction (the stimulating effects as well as the appetite suppression), I'd say the main reason I smoke is because I do some of my best thinking during my smoking ritual, which always involves having to go outside.

"I like to think of fire held in a man's hand. Fire, a dangerous force, tamed at his fingertips. I often wonder about the hours when a man sits alone, watching the smoke of a cigarette, thinking. I wonder what great things have come from such hours. When a man thinks, there is a spot of fire alive in his mind--and it is proper that he should have the burning point of a cigarette as his one expression."

^ http://www.videosift.com/video/Great-Advice-to-Quit-Smoking-BBC-Horizon

I normally wouldn't do this, because I don't want to seem like I'm spamming, but I quit smoking about 2 years ago, after MANY failed attempts. I tried gum, patch, Zyban (couldn't sleep when on it), etc. Someone eventually told me about a book, called "The Easy Way to Stop Smoking", by Allen Carr.

I'm a research scientist, and I called BS on a book being able to help me stop a physical addiction. The person was super adamant. I did some research, and I bought the book. Since reading it, I have quit, and 4/4 people in my department that I have loaned the book to have quit.

I won't try to explain why it works, other than to say it puts smoking into a new perspective where it literally seems dumb, and sad. The book emphasizes that you don't need to quit till you're done reading it, and encourages you to keep smoking as you're reading it.

This seems like one of the few times I could say a few words and make a difference in someone's life. So, if you want to quit smoking easily, and forever, check it out. You'll find no shortage of positive reviews. There are some International versions too: I read the Canadian edition.

I quit smoking 13 years ago when an antidepressant prescribed to me (Wellbutrin - generic name: bupropion) had the side-effect of reducing the craving for nicotine. (Doctors at the time didn't know about this, but when they figured it out the makers of Wellbutrin came out with Zyban, which is the EXACT same drug, just with a new name, and marketed as a smoking-cessation product.) Anyway I guess I got lucky, because several other attempts before that all failed.

All I can suggest to you is to give this e-cigarette a try if it really interests you. Do whatever it takes to quit. The more times you try to quit, the better your chances are of success. It only makes sense, because if you don't try you'll never quit. A little more advice:

- If you're going to try prescription drugs to quit smoking, Chantix is supposed to work better than Wellbutrin, but they both have side effects, so be informed.
- If you try nicotine patches and they don't work, try nicotine gum. And if you try nicotine gum first and it doesn't work, try the patch. Some people find more relief from gum, while others find the patch more effective.
- Get used to the idea that you will gain weight by quitting, because VERY few people don't gain weight when they quit. Just remember that you're still healthier carrying an extra 10 or 20 pounds than you are when you're smoking.

Small things can also help you quit:

- Put your cigarettes and lighters in the most inconvenient location in your home. Every time you want a cigarette you'll have to go all the way to that location to grab the smoke and the light. And leave them there, thus ensuring every time you want to have another smoke you'll have to go out of your way to get to them.
- Get rid of your ashtrays. Force yourself to go outside to smoke, thus making it more inconvenient. Your home will eventually stop stinking of smoke too.
- Stop hanging around rottenseed. He's a dirty smoker too.

Priceless.

That dog's really a goose. Har har har...

Sorry, that was awful.

How about "Smoking kills."

No, that was pretty bad, too. And honestly, I hope he didn't die. Maybe injured up a bit, maybe decides to quit smoking (or at the very least, smoking with no pants on by the window instead of taking out the dog - that dog is doing the Pee Pee dance if I ever saw a dog do it).

It's scientifically provable: your douchebag quotient can be cut in half just by quitting smoking.

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I have the same problem. I've quit smoking a few times now for multiple months over the years. Though each time it sort of slips back. Especially since I still smoke joints occasionally (with tobacco (yes that's the way we smoke in most of Europe)). Actually I've started smoking more joints since I quite last time, I wonder why...
Ah, what's the pint anyway, as long as I quit before 35 my added chances of cancer and other diseases become negligible anyway

Sounds like a solid idea. We have similar taxes in australia on cigarettes and alcohol, called the "sin tax", which is used to fund recovery schemes for alcoholics and those wanting to quit smoking.

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Yeah, that intro piece was the bit I was looking for - thanks for trying.

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couldnt find the whole thing but that bit is hilarious. Here's a piece of it followed by more Norm hilarity.
http://www.videosift.com/video/Norm-MacDonald-on-Dennis-Miller-1998

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Norm MacDonald is probably not a very nice man, but his humor hits me right in the sweet spot. There was a bit he did about quitting smoking I'd like to find.