^ I think you like to state opinions as fact too often. You often claim that today's Democratic party is the same one that filibustered the Civil Rights Act, and that neoconservatives were liberals, and that somehow these things have relevance to the party of Obama.

Fine, if today's Democrats have to bear the stains of their history, despite transformations along the way, then I get to claim (as the Democratic party itself does) that Jefferson was our founder.

After all, the Democratic party is what survives of the Democratic-Republican party. It's not my fault John Quincy Adams and Andrew Jackson had a pissing contest that makes Hillary vs. Obama look like a friendly game of squash and split the party into competing factions. John Q. Adams formed the "Nobama" party of his day, Jackson figured it's okay to drop the word "Republican" from the name, since that No-Jackson-bama party called itself "National Republicans", and he didn't need a filthy word like "Republican" in the name of his party anymore.

So it split, and transformed, but it did that again in 1968 and again in lesser ways in the leadup to Clinton's election (the DLC Republican-lite era), and again after Kerry's loss (the Howard Dean 50-state era).

It's still the good old party Jefferson started, though. Jackson didn't invent the Democratic party out of thin air, he just pissed off a bunch of proto-PUMA's who ran off and made corrupt bargains to win the Presidency, who eventually formed the Whig party (which was the real, lasting No-Jackson-bama party).

Now make one out of pumas.

hitting a cheetah or a puma up there would be much more interesting and dramatic

One day when I was ridin' on the train I seen these two kids talkin'
about the Nubian reign had fallen.
I didn't say nothin' cuz these kids caught my goat,
even wore my coat like a murder that they wrote.
So this kid with mouth swagger 'n I'll blaze the cloak and dagger
so I gotta show Dukes the macho lot that I am.
I can rock a jam, make the world drop ham,
oh yes, I'm the bad man, and bad men wear black.
And if it comes to droppin' bombs, yo, I'm with that.
Though I can freak, fly, floow, fuck up a faggot.
Don't understand their ways I ain't down with gays.
You wanna grab the style that was made from my mom and my dad,
when I was young I used to run with a notepad.
Then dimes knew and somehow I knew that I was bad to the bone...
black prodigy since the age of twen-ty.
I could write a rhyme, rip it up and write a next one,
right on the spot, sign my name with a dot.
Diamond D threw me some smooth shit, Bronx crowd roar.
Stick up your wack jam, everybody hit the floor.
Okay it's you, Slim, the hard rock of the pack,
don't wanna kneel to the brothers, you must be holin'.
Bust some shit in his chest, now his whole body's swollen.
Why did I have to do it? He asked for it.
His man saw it, so it don't mean shit to me.
He's gone, that's how it's supposed to be....check it out now.
I ain't goin' out, man that short shit is dead,
have you heard what I said? If not, ask the dread.
He got a can and that's bad...similar to the one that I got from my own dad.

Your punk ass'll be grass quick fast like my name was flash
when a nigga try and rob me for my cash.
You thought you had a sweet vic, a nice pick,
but you didn't anticipate that I might be sick.
Now who's the trick, cuz I'm not a up. (No, no-no-no!)
I always do the fuckin', just might do the buckin'.
I leave my Nikes stuck in your rectum, till you learn
Brand Nubian, yo, you gotta respect 'em.
Dissect 'em, yo, our word is bond regardless.
To my what, and do the Puma strut.
So step the fuck off, before I punch you in your face,
with the mothafuckin' bass!
Then you're gonna taste blood in your mouth, it's gonna flood south
to the ground, and you're gonna know I don't fuck around.
So if you think you had two soft newjacks,
we're gonna have to off you with a few cracks
to the jaw and you won't pop that shit no more.
Explainin' to your friends why you're layin' on the floor.
Did you want some more? I didn't think so.
Just got whipped like a faggot in the clink, so
I suggest you take your bloody mess and find a piece of wire,
fix your broken jaw, then it's time to retire.
Lord Jamar will live long, cuz I give strong blows the heads of my foes.
Dread flows, gives me power as it grows.
Watch how rass-cladda you catch the speed knot,
heed not, and hell will be your home,
Lord Jamar, Sadat, as we swell your dome.

"I'm a member of PUMA"

At least she's not calling herself a cougar...

I think if Democrats planned and executed something like this, it'd mean they finally got around to reading Machiavelli.

I don't know if it'd really help in the long run, but it'd be a great October surprise (when there's nothing long about the run).

I say it's BS, though. Why pick Biden and do the swap? If they saw advantage in having Hillary as VP, there's no doubt she'd have accepted if they'd offered.

The Hillary-supporting PUMAs out there are post-rational. My guess is they started the rumor, merely by publicly praying for Biden to drop dead.

OMG!!! Did my cock get attacked by a puma? WTF did I do last night?

They should stick to making Pumas.

For your Puma video - use this embed - I added the High Quality function so it will link to the HQ very of the video - much much clearer

http://www.videosift.com/video/Pretty-sweet-Puma-ad-Until-Then

Aceofclubs hit it on the head. She's anti-abortion (which really means she's a traitor to her gender), a shill for the gun lobby (which I can't imagine any sane mother being), and as Crosswords pointed out, she's got a safe face (apologies to Geraldine Ferraro). She's going to be little more than a talking head that the Neo-con base can feel good about.

While Biden was chosen to counter that Obama lacks Foreign Policy experience, Palin was chosen because she's not really going to do ANYTHING as VP except make McCain look good. That's WHY no one has told her just what the VP actually is supposed to do: Cast a Tie-Breaker vote in the Senate. That's all the VP really did (up until Cheney decided to re-write that part of the Constitution.)

I can't imagine why former Clinton supporters would go for this. It'd be like cutting off your nose to spite your face. Unless they're really that stupid anyway (cough* http://www.videosift.com/video/Chris-Matthews-Battles-Full-On-PUMA-Inanity *cough)...

^I hope you're right. It looks like only the fringiest HRC sites (Hillaryis44 and PUMA) are buying into this, but they are likely McCain front groups anyway. The GOP does seem to have lost their strategic prowess, so perhaps there is no sucker punch en route.

^ I never figured you for a PUMA, JD.

Are you saddened that your Hillary Clinton did not succeed in the Democratic primary? Are you surprised by the fact that not everyone agrees with you? Angry that the political process is not completely inaccessible to people that aren't already power players in Washington?

Then join PUMA, and vote Republican in 2008.

Because it's easier to change your vote than realize the truth. Besides, real Americans never admit fault over anything. Ever.

PUMA is a bit too close to "cougar".

And having an acronym as a name that is too close to "c&*t" is weird. But, since there's only three of them, I suppose they can be the biggest PUMA's they want, which is, nothing.

I wonder if Puma sponsored this...