So how you been Ms Prozac?

Issykitty, I couldn't dislike you if I wanted to. I understood where you were coming from even without the added context of your bad day. I hope the owner is prompt in contacting you, but I so doubt that. Do you have the names of the movers who were touching your stuff? Do you have documentation or some form of proof or a photo of the object in question? Paper trail, paper trail, paper trail. Keep a log of the attempts to contact, when they've contacted you. Don't do it over the phone if you can help it, use snail mail or email, anything that can be logged.

Do you have a lawyer friend? Sometimes a strongly worded, threatening legalese type letter works.

In reply to this comment by Issykitty:
Thank you, Prozac. I'm glad you aren't taking things personally. I appreciate your words in friendship. Yeah, I have a mind to call BBB and I am already going to post terrible reviews all over the web about the moving company. I dealt with a customer service rep who acted towards me with zero respect, didn't call me back in over a week, and then I called and fucking told her off. Now I am awaiting a call from the owner. Sorry to hear this has happened to you.

Thank you, Prozac. I'm glad you aren't taking things personally. I appreciate your words in friendship. Yeah, I have a mind to call BBB and I am already going to post terrible reviews all over the web about the moving company. I dealt with a customer service rep who acted towards me with zero respect, didn't call me back in over a week, and then I called and fucking told her off. Now I am awaiting a call from the owner. Sorry to hear this has happened to you.

In reply to this comment by UsesProzac:
Stepping away from everything, I'm so damn sorry that happened to you. I've been in that position and I never had what was stolen returned--vintage coats, purses, instruments. It made me feel helpless and I hate that more than anything. And it's happening to you when your support network is not there for you, and that's even worse. Take them to small claims court and I know it sounds useless, but complain to the Better Business Bureau. If they do it often, it'll add up and have an effect.

In reply to this comment by Issykitty:
Yeah, and excuse me, but I am kind of upset, probably due to my hubby being out of town at length and being an raging hormonal cauldron. Oh, and I just moved and the movers stole something from me. I probably shouldn't be looking at stupid blogs that piss me off.

@Issykitty - HOW DARE YOU INSULT THIS MEETING OF GREAT MINDS!

FYI - I like when I write a thoughtful comment and it gets downvoted by the people I'm arguing with, especially when they aren't able to come up with any kind of worthwhile response. I take it as a sign of weakness. Very cool.

Also, I'm not pissed at anyone, Prozac, Camp or Blanco. I'm just - as always - up for some lively discussion and not afraid to be brutally honest. At the risk of further offending the klansmen in the room, I think conservatives also intertwine politics with emotions and personality more so than liberals, and thus end up getting mad and thinking everyone else is mad too. Who knows? I'm limited to my own SUBJECTIVE REALITY.

@campiondelmenudo - I know your sn is Italian and possibly a soccer reference, but thanks for the tip all the same. I can stop mocking your screename if it bugs you. Your screename just begs out for mockery IMO. Feel free to return the favor if you like. FalopianSutureTooGay is probably the route I'd go if I wanted to mock my own screename.

Honestly, this 'discussion' is pretty lightweight stuff. I probably wouldn't even be slumming here at the bottom of this dumb thread if I hadn't been suffering from an unfortunate lack of wifi.

Piss-off-some-conservatives jones: satisfied

Namaste

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Good the slow clap processor works. So I have that going for me.
So, I'm suppose to feel bad or something because I live in a so called first world country or something?
meh I could go on a rant about how tiring it is to have this message and those like it shoved in my face everyday since I was a kid but instead I'll go see if Maru has any new vids up. Cat in box is like prozac only with out the addiction.

http://bit.ly/gNSnlb
says fluoride can act as an neurotransmitter in general, triggering neurotransmitter receptors, apparently all kinds of them.

in presence of aluminum fluoride (alf4-), a receptor-independent activator of g-protiens in cells.

It's really a shame when he goes off on these tangents about prozac and such, because it makes you wonder if he's just as crazy when he talks about things that seem to make sense.

>> ^GeeSussFreeK:

I love it when you talk about bonding, fap fap fap.
>> ^Psychologic:
>> ^deathcow:
> If you take the recommended daily dose, it puts you at about 1.6mgs of fluoride a day.
Fluorine bound into Fluoxetine is a lot different than fluorine bound into fluoride. You can eat all the salt you want but eating elemental chlorine and elemental sodium would kill you and light you on fire. Groaningly bad that he would equate drinking fluoride to being the same as eating Fluoxetine.

Yea, people seem to think of chemistry like cooking, where a molecule is just a loose collection of ingredients.

When people talk about the health risks of "fluoride" they're usually talking about Sodium Fluoride, which is an ionic compound and splits into Na+ and F- when dissolved in water (the negatively charged fluorine ion is called "fluoride").
Excessive amounts of fluoride (well above what is generally in tap water) can lead to severe health problems. Perhaps lower amounts cause problems too, but the evidence is less clear.
Prozac contains three covalently bonded fluorine atoms which do not split off when being metabolized. Prozac has it's own health impacts, but not because it produces fluoride ions.



Sorry for leaving you in an excited state... I understand it raises the potential for sudden discharge. ;-)

I love it when you talk about bonding, fap fap fap.

>> ^Psychologic:

>> ^deathcow:
> If you take the recommended daily dose, it puts you at about 1.6mgs of fluoride a day.
Fluorine bound into Fluoxetine is a lot different than fluorine bound into fluoride. You can eat all the salt you want but eating elemental chlorine and elemental sodium would kill you and light you on fire. Groaningly bad that he would equate drinking fluoride to being the same as eating Fluoxetine.

Yea, people seem to think of chemistry like cooking, where a molecule is just a loose collection of ingredients.

When people talk about the health risks of "fluoride" they're usually talking about Sodium Fluoride, which is an ionic compound and splits into Na+ and F- when dissolved in water (the negatively charged fluorine ion is called "fluoride").
Excessive amounts of fluoride (well above what is generally in tap water) can lead to severe health problems. Perhaps lower amounts cause problems too, but the evidence is less clear.
Prozac contains three covalently bonded fluorine atoms which do not split off when being metabolized. Prozac has it's own health impacts, but not because it produces fluoride ions.

>> ^deathcow:

> If you take the recommended daily dose, it puts you at about 1.6mgs of fluoride a day.
Fluorine bound into Fluoxetine is a lot different than fluorine bound into fluoride. You can eat all the salt you want but eating elemental chlorine and elemental sodium would kill you and light you on fire. Groaningly bad that he would equate drinking fluoride to being the same as eating Fluoxetine.


Yea, people seem to think of chemistry like cooking, where a molecule is just a loose collection of ingredients.


When people talk about the health risks of "fluoride" they're usually talking about Sodium Fluoride, which is an ionic compound and splits into Na+ and F- when dissolved in water (the negatively charged fluorine ion is called "fluoride").

Excessive amounts of fluoride (well above what is generally in tap water) can lead to severe health problems. Perhaps lower amounts cause problems too, but the evidence is less clear.

Prozac contains three covalently bonded fluorine atoms which do not split off when being metabolized. Prozac has it's own health impacts, but not because it produces fluoride ions.

@Matthu

I am not a chemist. However, I think I have an approximation for you on fluoride. Prozac is composed of Fluoxetine. It's chemical formula is C17H18F3NO. The approximate mass of the fluoride is about 8% of the compound. If you take the recommended daily dose, it puts you at about 1.6mgs of fluoride a day. The Daily Max for ANY weight of human is 10mgs. The average daily consumption from water is around 1mgs as well. This is about 2mgs a day from just these 2 sources. This is a hazardous level for infants and small children. In addition to tap water and medicine, food is usually processed with tap water and therefore has trace levels of fluoride. In addition, so do some sodas, juices, teas, wines, ect. Also, some salts, and interestingly enough, cigarettes ( anaesthetic methoxyflurane, isoflurane). So once again, it isn't a once source problem. Water, specifically tap water, is used in nearly every facet of food production. It's the snowball problem. This wouldn't be a problem if we just opted for personalized tap fluoride dispensers, or some other local, "toggalable" option. And really, why ingest something that is supposed to be topical? Should I start eating deodorant next?

"Fluoride" is the main ingredient in Prozac? Wow Jesse, I like you for a lot of your political views, but this is like saying table salt is poisonous because it's mostly chlorine.

I'm not saying Prozac or Fluoride are necessarily healthy, but equating the two chemically is hilariously misinformed.

@smart people

I didn't know fluoride was the main ingredient in Prozac..... But even if it is, it's such a minute quantity that it cannot have any effect, can it???

I'm super pro tap water, I despise the idea of bottled water. I'm pretty sure my tap here in Montreal has fluoride...

EDIT: Actually... looks like Montreal doesn't have fluoridation, however it's difficult to say for sure because cities seem to flip and flop back and forth on fluoridation and some Burroughs of Montreal do add fluoride. Ah well whatever, maybe the cool-aid's good for us.

I come in contact with them constantly. My guess is that this has everything to do with geographic location. As of a few years ago, 26% of Texans report getting ALL of their news exclusively from decidedly right wing sources. These are the most outraged, ignorant people of all.

I do not watch television at all and I am generally fairly blissful. The only time I get unblissful is when I'm forced to interact with people who are both angry/terrified and horrifically misinformed. Or when my brain chemicals turn against me and cause me stay in bed all day and think about everything thats ever been awful ever. I suspect with a little prozac and a better ability to play dumb when confronted with obvious corporatist mind game fuckery, I'd be the happiest person on earth. My brain would sort of resemble disney world. People would vacation there with their children. We would all fall in love and garden together. We'd make dinner from the vegetables we grew. Nothing would be harmed in the creation of our consumables. And hearts would drift out of the top of our heads and float around in the air .. in the directions of our beautiful neighbors. >> ^eric3579:

My experience is that the ones who may be ignorant(just not interested) in politics, state of the world and most things outside their sphere of influence, are generally happier people. The over the top ignorant people the news networks show you, may be out there in a constant state of outrage, but I've not come into contact with them. They are not part of my everyday life. Ignorance is bliss doesn't sound as bad as I once thought. I'm sure a lot of it has to do with getting older. Just my two cents.
>> ^NetRunner:
>> ^dystopianfuturetoday:
I've been in a constant state of outrage for months now. I'm starting to envy the blissfully ignorant.

The ignorant seem to be in a constant state of outrage too.
The only blissful people seem to be the amoral ones who are able to amass power and fortune by harnessing the outrage of everyone else, and they're far from ignorant.

Kitties are not amused.... well except for the one on the left, he looks like he is on prozac.