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Pomplamoose - Le Commun de Mortels

Almanildo says...

Here are the lyrics in English, from the video description:


Le commun des mortels (The common of mortals, the status quo, the average man)

In my opinion
One must quest as far
As those banished
From a city without children

From above the mountains
To the depths of prison camps
I follow the common of mortals

In the square
Of a cathedral in flames
I make my bed
And await the voice of God

From above all knowledge
To the loss of mind
I am the common of mortals

Always in vain
The quest
For truth
Always in vain
The quest
For truth
Oh, stop
This Pirouette

In my opinion
One must quest as far
From above the mountains
To the depths of prison camps
From above all knowledge
To the loss of mind
From above the sugar-coated
Until I am happy
I follow the common of mortals

Laura Ling Speaks About Being Released from North Korea

demon_ix says...

>> ^griefer_queafer:
Geez, they're talking like something BAD happened. Maybe I am just a cold old man, but I mean, C'MON, how traumatic could it have been? ::FACEPLANT::

Give it a couple of days, let them settle down, and then start doing the talk shows and describe in detail the crap they went through.

Keep in mind, that three days ago it was entirely possible that they would spend the rest of their lives in a North Korean prison camp...

How long does it take for someone to actually give up on seeing their home ever again? That's the trauma.

North Korea Detonates Nuclear Weapon Underground

Guantanamo Guard Admits Torture on Rachel Maddow Show

rougy says...

The U.S. government on Monday agreed to release a Yemeni surgeon who reportedly treated al Qaida wounded at Tora Bora in Afghanistan under a new review ordered by President Barack Obama meant to empty the prison camps here by January 2010.

Ayman Batarfi, 38, had told a military review panel in 2005 that he was a humanitarian worker who found himself at the battle of Tora Bora in 2001 while Osama bin Laden was in the area, according to a Pentagon transcript. He said he'd met bin Laden while the doctor was burying the dead from American air assaults, but that he did not respect the al Qaida leader, who he called "a coward."


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It was during that same battle that US troops were ordered to stand down and not to shoot if they saw Osama bin Laden.

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GITMO Guard "I Felt Ashamed Of What I Did"

quantumushroom says...

Ya know what QM? You will never be a highdileeho.

My karma is different from his. I respect his decision to serve and he has to live with his life decisions like everyone else. Same with Corporal Twinkie, who is doing his brothers and sisters a grave disservice, even if he is sincere. If any of you think the war against this SCUM is anywhere near over, guess again. Jihadists don't give up until they're dead. Or you're dead. Or both.

He put his life on the line for his country, and will never have the same bloodthirst that you spout here.

My "bloodthirst" is mostly limited to jihadist fktards who want to kill Americans and other civilized peoples. That's the price I gladly pay for not being a moral relativist: recognizing there is real evil in the world, and that this world has real consequences for appeasement stupidity.

I'm a non-combat veteran...now, I don't know if that meets the high standards liberals set for everyone but themselves, and I've never had to shoot anyone, but the US GOV could've sent me into the fire and I would've gone. Unlike in Congress, military oaths to defend the Constitution mean something.

- Article 3 of Geneva conventions requires humane treatment of all persons held. Furthermore on June 12, 2008, the United States Supreme Court ruled in Boumediene v. Bush that the Guantanamo captives were entitled to the protection of the United States Constitution. International and American rights apply to them.

Well, guess what, the dumbshts in the legal system have been wrong plenty of times before. They tried this bullsht with captured Nazi spies, that is, attempting to give them Constitutional rights, but the country was more sane in the 1940s and instead they were dealt with properly.

"The ones that have been released quickly rejoin [...] their jihad."

National security expert and CNN analyst Peter Bergen, states that some of those "suspected" to have returned to terrorism are so categorized because they publicly made anti-American statements, "something that's not surprising if you've been locked up in a U.S. prison camp for several years." If all 18 people on the "confirmed" list have "returned" to the battlefield, that would amount to 4 percent of the detainees who have been released.

Ah, so that's acceptable to you, those "small" numbers? How many a-holes did it take to bring about 9-11? Oh, that's right, that doesn't count, because the 9-11 jihadist scum were from Country X and not Country Z. Brilliant reasoning, libs.

The US looked for legal loopholes to justify its detention program at Gitmo, nor could it trail them as it had torture testimony which is inadmissible in a court of law.

Well, given the choice of calling this a real war against a real enemy or "Bush's Game" I'll gladly err on the side of real war. Let the animals run wild and free over some "clever" legal ACLU wrangling and before long you won't have a society to defend.

Wouldn't you rejoin? I mean if this group of jihadists captured you and put you in a shitty hole with crappy accommodations, when you were released wouldn't you come running back and join military...well you wouldn't cause you're a pussy, but somebody with balls would...

LOOKIT ME EVERYONE!...I'M TALKIN' TOUGH...ON THE INTERNETS. I CALL YOU NAME!

It's not some alien we're dealing with...it's people. So I don't know why you act so surprised when humans follow their own nature to feel hatred when they're mistreated.

I understand the "feelings" of Gitmo detainees and nothing they do surprises me. Go to any prison in America and you'll find plenty of the same resentment, since every one of those guys is ALSO not guilty! They'll tell you so! They were set up!

Why do liberals act surprised that there is real hatred towards jihadist animals sawing off heads, homicide bombing, beating women, honor killing, etc.

Liberals are always angry and ashamed of America first and "the oppressed" last. They just don't see this, the way a fish can't see the water. Maybe they're too fking far gone to notice, who knows. NYC could be suitcase nuked tomorrow and they'd use Gitmo to justify it.

GITMO Guard "I Felt Ashamed Of What I Did"

Farhad2000 says...

"Gitmo detainees are not prisoners of war nor enemy combatants fighting under any nation's flag, so American and International rights don't apply to them."

- Article 3 of Geneva conventions requires humane treatment of all persons held. Furthermore on June 12, 2008, the United States Supreme Court ruled in Boumediene v. Bush that the Guantanamo captives were entitled to the protection of the United States Constitution. International and American rights apply to them.

"The ones that have been released quickly rejoin [...] their jihad."


National security expert and CNN analyst Peter Bergen, states that some of those "suspected" to have returned to terrorism are so categorized because they publicly made anti-American statements, "something that's not surprising if you've been locked up in a U.S. prison camp for several years." If all 18 people on the "confirmed" list have "returned" to the battlefield, that would amount to 4 percent of the detainees who have been released.

The US looked for legal loopholes to justify its detention program at Gitmo, nor could it trail them as it had torture testimony which is inadmissible in a court of law.

More reading material - http://www.opendemocracy.net/democracy-americanpower/article_2110.jsp and http://edition.cnn.com/2009/US/02/12/detainees.documents/index.html

Hamas in their own Voices

joedirt says...

"but it is a political and military entity - Hamas - that is Israel's stated target, not an ethnic one."

You can't understand how stupid this is? Ok, then Palestinian militants aren't anti-semitic, they just want to get rid of the political and military entity of Israel.

And the problem isn't really Israel taking out Hamas fighters or leaders, it's the hundreds of civilians and children being bombed and bulldozed in their houses and schools. That's sounds like war crimes and genocide, especially when it is done to an occupied apartheid open air prison camp.

And no, there is only evidence that Israel is interested in occupying illegal lands and killing as many Palestinians as it takes to accomplish this. Imagine if you were in control of a million people's lives who are walled in by your tanks and F-16 and war ships and they have no clean water and little electricity and food. Certainly it's not like your are trying to kill them all by blocking all aid and food and water and them dropping bombs on the refugee shelters. Really?

Israel bombs third UN school - 43 dead

joedirt says...

Trivia question... how long has Hamas been elected? And how long have rockets been fired? And how long had Israel been using bombs, tanks and bulldozers?

Also, what i learned from the comments is that Palestinians should GTFO the Earth (huh, sounds familiar).

And that thousands of Muslims are living happily. Too bad that over a million Gazans are trapped in a prison camp. What kind of travel papers do you need to get to the happy Israel?

And harvey again hates facts or anything logical. You got the wrond UN school bombing video. I know there are so many because Israel loves bombing these schools while kids are in the bldg, but this was more recent bombing then your drone video was released.

War on Gaza: Annie Lennox speaks up

joedirt says...

"Yes, most of the dead are Hamas militants"

Wow, it's amazing the same thing happens in Iraq. Most of those dead are 'insurgents' and alQ. I'll bet all the school kids and mothers where also militants.

>> ^lantern53:
The Palestinians stated purpose is the destruction of Israel. How do you appease that?


Step 1: occupy a country and put over a million people into the largest open air prison.
Step 2: blockade all sea ports, air space, control all movement in and out of borders and then bomb the power plant. Make sure there is no clean water, sewage pumps, medicine, hospital electricity, or any international aid allowed in.
Step 3: Keep putting up bigger walls, more illegal encroaching settlements
Step 4: When those people throw rocks and fireworks out of their prison camp, bomb the living fuck out of them. Certainly nine dead from randomly fired rockets is equal to dropping bombs on people who can't even escape or become refugees in another country. (At least the US let 5 million Iraqis flee their ancient homelands)
Step 5: dig a big pit for the bodies.

Problem solved.

ShakyJake (Member Profile)

bcglorf says...

In reply to this comment by ShakyJake:
You're right, Bcglorf, it was a bit of a snide drive-by comment. But the point I was trying to make is that as bad as conditions there and elsewhere in the world are, they'll never get the same kind of mainstream attention as places where we have a vested interest. Call it despicable all you want, but it seems more like an unfortunate reality to me.


Thanks for upvoting the vid and sorry if I came off as really combative. Watching a video like that just makes me really angry that such conditions exist still in our world, and sometimes that tone creeps in to my responses, sorry if I offended you .

North Korea Prison Camp Escapee

bcglorf says...

>> ^ShakyJake:
You're right, Bcglorf, it was a bit of a snide drive-by comment. But the point I was trying to make is that as bad as conditions there and elsewhere in the world are, they'll never get the same kind of mainstream attention as places where we have a vested interest. Call it despicable all you want, but it seems more like an unfortunate reality to me.


I agree, though even in a place like Iraq where we have a personal interest the media still is giving little to no attention to the Saddam era genocide through chemical weapons on villages and gathering civilians in concentration camps before marching them to mass graves and a bulldozer burial. Our main stream media gives the impression that dictators like Saddam and Kim Jong Il aren't really all that bad. In reality though, they have committed the exact same crimes we condemn the Nazi's for. But, we'd rather have weekly 1 hour TV specials with celebrities visiting starving children in Africa. It's great to raise awareness of Africa, but most people don't realize that the conditions for the every day North Korean are not only much worse, but the North Korean don't even realize that a better life exists anywhere else.

Oh, an an up vote to go with your snide comment might help get some attention to the cause.

North Korea Prison Camp Escapee

bcglorf says...

>> ^chtierna:
The thing that moved me the most about this video was that he escaped for food.
He didnt have anything else to escape for, no big ideas about freedom or dreams on what to do with his life.


What kills me the most about the North is how almost nobody in it knows enough to even question that what they are told is true and that their horrific conditions there are still the best in the world. Just mind numbing.

North Korea Prison Camp Escapee

bcglorf says...

>> ^ShakyJake:
If only they had oil there, we might send in the troops to "liberate" these people.


Ignorant remarks like this are more than just getting old, in this context it is despicable. If you aren't aware, North Korean artillery has been holding the 20+ million people living in Seoul as guaranteed casualties within the first hour of any war, preventing any attempts to help the people trapped in the North.

But don't let me stop your making snide remarks about the US after watching the horror show that is North Korea. Just try to remember that North Korea was backed by the Soviet Union and China while the South was backed by the US. You just might want to look at the difference between the two before treating the dire plight of millions with so little respect.

Matt Damon Actually Sounding Smart On Palin

bamdrew says...

>> ^pro:
It is probably best to pull the punches regarding Palin's family, her Christian values, anything that may vaguely come across as sexist, any comments about the irrelevancy of her experience as a mom, PTA member, TV reporter, etc. The same goes for joking about McCain's overuse of his time spent in the prison camp. All these points while valid don't seem to be helping.


BINGO! Couldn't agree more. Obama and Biden are doing a great job at steering clear of this trap, but the GOP will still SAY they are beating up on her about this stuff... and it won't matter if someone calls them on it because it never matters when they stretch the truth to people too busy to check the facts.



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