@bareboards2
pure and utter sophistry.

and i resent the fact that you slyly attempt to imply that i will just sit back and remain silent to injustice.

when i feel quite confident my records on this site prove the exact opposite.i have vociferously and aggressively taken on those who would bully,berate and belittle anyone who would voice their opinion.

i believe i have come to YOUR defense on more than one occasion.

what i found disturbing in your comment and maybe i should clarify is this "As Homeland Security says, if you see something, say something."

this is LITERALLY what was posted on almost every open venue in east germany.

and for you to tacitly excuse this statement by dismissively stating that "the stasi operated in secret".as somehow being evidence of your own righteousness belies an ignorance of just how oppressive and fearful those people were living in those conditions.

so you are morally superior because you openly called to out,and i quote "benevolent dictator with a light touch",and did not do so in private?
THIS is your justification?
THIS is the evidence you present to me to...what? exactly?

if you truly feel that you have somehow struck a blow for justice and taken a stand for moral integrity,then i submit that you have no clue what free speech really entales,nor do you understand the implications when we,as a community,start calling in the big daddy in the sky every time someone writes an offensive potty/racist or bigoted word.

and just LOOK how you consumed @gorillaman 's comment.
you made no reference to his salient point,but rather focused on ONE thing:nigger prince.

now was this appropriate?
taken singularly i would have to agree with you.
no..it is not appropriate.

but when we take our understandings of @gorillaman,who has been a contributing sifter for over 10 years,and consider his humor..which is dark and incredibly dry (like sahara dry),then with this context added to the mix,we can conclude that he was probably making a joke...you are certainly within your rights to find that joke in poor taste,and with this community,you are also within your rights (and even encouraged) to take @gorillaman to task for his poor taste.

but instead you called for big daddy in the sky to bring the hammer of justice down,and punish this dirt potty mouthed racist.his crime?
racist verbiage.

no consideration of who was writing it.
no consideration of his history on this site,which you openly admitted is a community.
you just..focused..on..the..word.

and then you preen like a peacock thinking somehow you have struck a blow of righteousness?

please sister.....you accomplished nothing except to put dag in an awkward position,and came across as a self righteous moralizer.

when you simply could have done what other sifters here actually DID.
you downvote his comment.
and if you felt so inclined,and it appears you ARE so inclined,directly call @gorillaman out for his poor choice of verbiage.

look BB,
i actually find you to be a sweetheart,with a huuuuge propensity for empathy and compassion,but every time i engage with you my sphincter tightens up like it is preparing for a colonoscopy.there is this ever-present apprehension that my words will not be taken with humanity that they are written,or the open honesty i am trying to convey.

i am sure that if we were actually sitting in a cafe,sipping that delicious coffee you guys are so proud of, i would not experience this anxiety when engaging with you,but it seems EVERY time i disagree with something you post,or an opinion i may take issue with,i offend you in some manner.

you ..and i am sure this is not done on purpose..make it incredibly difficult to disagree with something you post,because i always feel i have hurt your feelings somehow.

real or imagined...i am just being honest here.i always approach any interaction with you as if i am walking on eggshells,underlined with landmines.

i am simply disagreeing with you here.
calling for a ban on gorillaman because of a joke made in poor taste,while simultaneously disregarding his contributions to this site,and taking his personality into consideration,is simply an over-zealous reaction and in no way deserves the attention of dag.

because if gorillaman deserves to be banned for an offensive phrase,than i should be banned as well.

free speech is just that...free.
of course we are free to ridicule that speech.
yaaay free speech!

I didn't have an answer until I saw these comments above.

Definitely Young Turks. They need to talk less and get some voice/diction lessons.

Truth distorters. Hate that with a passion.

Anything with pain as humor. I have too much empathy and end up distressed. The ones with the nutsack shots? People falling on their necks? I don't think I have ever gotten to the end of one of those compilations -- I start watching because some "fail" videos are funny without serious harm being involved. But the compilations mostly seem to toss in something that makes me quickly shut 'er down.

And of course -- sexist/racist "jokes". Louis CK has a potty mouth of the nth degree -- doesn't bother me. I love him, because he tells the truth. The man has told a funny rape joke! Who thought that was even possible before he figured out how to do. Sexist/racist crap is lies and ugliness.

I'm sure there is more. That is without thinking about it too hard and stealing from the first posters.

Except...

Louis CK has a potty mouth and talks about some incredibly sensitive subjects in a raw way -- and yet he stays, in my opinion, "politically correct."

The man makes comedy out of rape. RAPE. As a woman and a feminist who has been subjected to horrendous rape "jokes" for 50 years, you'd think I'd hate that. But his comedy about rape is dead on accurate.

The most brilliant comedian working today, in my opinion. The Truth Teller, that is what he is.

Potty-Mouthed Princesses Drop F-Bombs for Feminism by FCKH8. has been added as a related post - related requested by Trancecoach on that post.

Potty-Mouthed Princesses Drop F-Bombs for Feminism PARODY has been added as a related post - related requested by Trancecoach.

*promote a subject nearer and dearer to my potty-mouth than I'd care to remind some of the older motherfuckers around here about how hard my personal experience of mob-ass-fucking has been to overcome here on the Videosift.

Praise Eris, the sorry motherfuckers who had it out for me are AWOL or STFU, and I remain intact, energized, and more formidable than ever.

A legend in my own mind and life is good, Lilithia, you are the most beautiful person on the planet and when you let ANYONE tell you otherwise, do so with a death-grip on that pair of mincey balls they're sportin'!

They hit one every six, pretty good for some zep-rappers from S.A.....Can't get enough of young Miss Visser's cute, tiny potty-mouth and fit, bodacious body!!

I'm not asking about the phrase "in the closet." We agree on that.

Although I would not use the word "disparaging" -- it is more deeply sad that someone feels the need to hide.

What do YOU mean by disparaging? I just realized maybe we do look at that phrase differently.

It is disparaging of our society that someone feels the need to be in the closet. It is insulting to say to someone's face "hey, you are in the closet" when they have put themselves there.

Do you read Savage Love or Dan Savage's blog? I love that guy. Potty mouth and brilliant mind -- a great combination.

I shall continue my informal survey just because I am dang curious!

Beat me by 5 hours-First and last day as anchor. I can sympathize and identify completely with this guy, I may have lasted a week.

On the flip-side of quality, you'd think they'd be able to find some local talent in North Dakota for the local news, eh? Point two- both anchors have horrible public speaking skills- Their diction and command of the English language are total sheit. I'd can both of em and offer the lead anchor job to the lady at the feed store who speaks clearly and confidently, HAS a personality, and never went to university and wasted thousands of dollars on a Radio/Television Communications degree.

He needs to lose the suit and go get a better-paying gig more suited for his skills-HELLO!!?? Oilfield industry is booming in the Dakotas right now A.J., fucking-shit man, land you a job with a future where you can really develop that potty-mouth!

For the movie ratings system here, that's actually pretty close to the truth. As far as network tv, they're still pretty parochial. However, some basic cable channels, Comedy Central for instance, don't censor anything after a certain time. "Asshole" seems like a pretty tame thing to bleep to me, but I'm a potty-mouth, and Kimmel is in a 4-way battle for ratings.

I love Anne's potty mouth.

I had to come see who promoted Potty Mouth Vid to the front page... and IT WAS LUCKY??!!!!!

Now THAT was a surprise! I was expecting @BoneRemake!

I've wondered before if this sort of thing isn't a generational divide. Did your cohort become so used to arguing with your parents, who were actually sexist and racist and homophobic, while feeling you had to pay such careful attention to your own attitudes and vocabulary to avoid becoming like them; that you're not equipped to understand your children, for whom all that nonsense is so far behind and beneath them they don't bother to trammel themselves in the same way, when they try to explain why calling something 'gay' isn't a symptom of an underlying prejudice?
Nobody cares about that any more. None of the smart people anyway, who are themselves the most viciously oppressed and under-represented group in modern society.

I'm eagerly looking forward to the decline of gendered nouns and pronouns in general. It's such a bizarrely inappropriate way of communicating, the equivalent of appending "(...and by the way I'm talking about a male here)" to so many words that don't call for that detail.

Your two example sentences honestly, HONESTLY read exactly the same to me. This ought to be welcome news to you. It means the war is over, you can climb out of the trenches into the sunny world of a post-feminist future.

I'm running your experiment in a casual way, though as has been mentioned already those words come up too infrequently and in the wrong contexts to get much out of it so far. I'm afraid you'll be disappointed or assume bad faith if we report an underwhelming experience, but if we find these words as harmless as we say we do then that's all we can report.
Your 'radical' version is unsound because it involves projecting a specific attitude directly in to the experiment. Of course you'll find chauvinism - you put it there.

What do you think is the #1 reason 'girl' as a synonym for 'woman' is in more common usage than 'boy' for 'man'?

>> ^bareboards2:

I was reading Dan Savage's column yesterday (love that man, every bit of his potty mouthed being). The first sentence in one letter asking for advice was this:
"I'm a man who just got out of a two-year relationship with a great girl."
So if we do the experiment, the sentence now becomes:
"I'm a boy who just got out of a two-year relationship with a great woman."
gorillaman Stormsinger SevenFingers, do you honestly experience those two sentences exactly the same way? Are they conveying the same information?
Or are you startled by the experimental sentence? Is a different story being told about the relationship of these two people? Who has maturity? Who has, excuse me for using a charged word, more power? And with that power, do they have more responsibility?
Storm, you said you would be willing to do this experiment ... have you noticed any word situations like this yet? Gorilla, you never answered my question, so I am taking it that you are declining the experiment?