>> ^cybrbeast:
>> ^ryanbennitt:
>> ^cybrbeast:
You know there is such a thing as aquaculture or fish farming.
Tell that to the massive fishing fleets driving species to extinction...

Regardless, that does not make your statement "We don't farm and cultivate the sea, we just hunt and poach the fish from it." any more true.
I speculate that before we drive the fish to extinction the massive fishing fleets will become uneconomical due to lack of fish. They will stop and species hopefully recover. This could be expedited by strict resolutions


A species could easily become extinct just by bringing the numbers down to a certain point. And other species could still become extinct in the process causing chain reactions. It seems like a pretty dangerous speculation.

If you're really interested in the subject. I'd suggest reading: "Cod, a Biography of the Fish That Changed the World" by Mark Kurlansky. It's a fascinating book in it's own right and definitely covers the dangers involved with this subject.

>> ^ryanbennitt:
>> ^cybrbeast:
You know there is such a thing as aquaculture or fish farming.
Tell that to the massive fishing fleets driving species to extinction...


Regardless, that does not make your statement "We don't farm and cultivate the sea, we just hunt and poach the fish from it." any more true.
I speculate that before we drive the fish to extinction the massive fishing fleets will become uneconomical due to lack of fish. They will stop and species hopefully recover. This could be expedited by strict resolutions

You know there is such a thing as aquaculture or fish farming.

http://www.worldwatch.org/node/5883
"Nearly half of the seafood we eat today is farmed"

>> ^ryanbennitt:
Well, by 2050 we'll have 9 billion people, but by that time all our fish stocks worldwide will have collapsed completely from overfishing. We don't farm and cultivate the sea, we just hunt and poach the fish from it.

Well, by 2050 we'll have 9 billion people, but by that time all our fish stocks worldwide will have collapsed completely from overfishing. We don't farm and cultivate the sea, we just hunt and poach the fish from it. We're still getting better and better at fishing, using sonar, bigger nets, better ships, but just as the technology makes it easier to find fish, it is getting harder and harder to find them, fishermen are having to travel further and further to get their catches, ultimately this cycle is destined to total failure. So that's one source of food production that we will ultimately have to do without. Unless something changes...

I always though poaching an egg was using steam. Not submersing it in water. Whatever works I guess to make that slimy mess.

Two problems with that morality:

1. Ritual is relevant.

If you kill only one animal, why does it matter if the lethal wound is from an arrow or a bullet? Does your argument stand if the weapons are a 17th century musket versus a compound bow? How about a knife coated with fast-acting neurotoxin? Blow darts? Hand to hand, but you are wearing a high-tech exoskeleton?

2. Omniscient is required.

Imagine it is instead a hermit who purchases guns and poaches the lion, one who has never seen the "endangered species" list. How are they to know the population of lions, or the population of lions worldwide, unless they have omniscience?

Or, if you leave on Friday for a week-long deer hunting trip, and after you leave every deer worldwide falls ill from a worldwide-virus except the ones in your geographical location. That species is now endangered yet you would have to be omniscient to realize what you were doing was now morally wrong.

Yes, killing lions may be, or should be, socially wrong; but you aren't talking about socially wrong you are talking about morally wrong because you said "they deserve to die" not "they deserve to be socially ostracized."

>> ^Farhad2000:
Look if you go hunting a over populated species with a bow knife and a bow and arrow I get it. I might not agree with it but I get it.
But when you are 'hunting' with a rifle, a species that is protected, for some kind of stupid kick then you totally deserve to be mauled by the animal.

I'd be interested to hear an explanation of the moral differences between poaching and hunting, specifically why one is okay and the other is deserving of death.

>> ^Farhad2000:
Looks like fucking poachers to me.
Totally deserved to all get killed.

Clearly, the white part of your brain is tasteless and bland. The yummy yellow part is loaded with cholesterol.

And if your brain is thrown in boiling water, it is said to be, what neurological research scientists call, "poached."

Any questions?

>> ^Farhad2000:
This will probably awesome, garner impressive reviews, poach a bunch of awards and sell about 10 copies before fading into Top 10 lists and bitter feelings of discontent to those that bought it but don't understand why other gamers are so stupid.
Much like Psychonauts before it.


But-but... Grim Fandango was successful in the 90's, right? So what if it occurred to gamers post-Y2K that automatic weapons and grenade launchers were more fun than "Pick up item" and "Open satchel" -- the demographics can change, I swear!

This will probably awesome, garner impressive reviews, poach a bunch of awards and sell about 10 copies before fading into Top 10 lists and bitter feelings of discontent to those that bought it but don't understand why other gamers are so stupid.

Much like Psychonauts before it.

He's definitely attacking. My Eastern box turtle used to do the same thing anytime it saw another male turtle or we put a mirror in front of him. They can be very territorial. My guess is this turtle thinks the camera is poaching on his turf (maybe can see his own reflection in the lens).

Who is this woman? Why do we care about her? This strikes me as an attempt on Fox's part to legitimize the McCain attempt to poach some Clinton voters. At any rate Ruport Murdoch has said he expects Obama to win, so I suppose fox will be softening up on him in the future.

There is no cheese that I would not eat, few that I have not eaten, and none that is so stinky that I would not spread it on anything suitable and chow.

a nice wheel a Gouda smoked slow next to the BBQ, and eaten while waiting for the carne.....mmmmmmmmmmmmm!

Welsh Rarebit:
Ingredients

* 25g Butter
* 150ml Welsh ale-(use milk, if you don't want to have trippy dreams)
* 175g mature Welsh farmhouse Cheese (you can replace this with the sharpest cheddar you prefer-(NO SUBSTITUTES FOR SHARPNESS!)-meaning no poncy chesse you happen to have lying about
* 25g Flour
* 1/2 tsp prepared mild Mustard (Coleman's is best)
* 2 egg yolks
* 4 slices bread

Method

1. Place the butter, milk or ale and cheese in a saucepan and heat gently until melted and smooth in consistency.

2. Stir in the flour, and bring the mixture to the boil, stirring constantly.

3. Remove from the heat and add the mustard and seasoning. Leave to cool for 5 minutes, then whisk in the eggs.

4. Toast the bread on one side, turn over and divide the rarebit mixture between the slices.

5. Place under a hot grill and cook until bubbling and golden.
Welsh rarebit is traditionally served on toast, sometimes with a poached egg on top. Many chefs have taken to using the rarebit mixture for more adventurous dishes such as a topping for fillet of Welsh beef, or cod. It's ideal as a vegetarian dish and is exceptionally good poured over roasted vegetables, then baked in the oven until golden.
You can add various flavourings to the rarebit base such as herbs, fresh chilli, garlic, cooked leeks, chopped ham

Perfectionist's note: Welsh Rarebit is a stand-alone affair-a good sourdough is best-Her starter's activity, together with the beer's yeast and other constituent's, the actives in the cheese, the mustard, have produced repeatable mildly psychoactive, nocturnal effects when eaten on an empty stomach, just prior to bed.-choggie hasn't made this in a number of years-djsunkid is about to, and tell us all about his whacky night-moves......

Well, just a regular poached egg is just a matter of practice. I worked brunch each saturday and sunday for a few months two years ago- after your first hundred or so, you get quite used to it. If you work a medium busy brunch service, you're likely to do 50 or 60 eggs benny in the space of a few hours. It only takes a few of those to have your simple poached egg down pat.

What I was getting at above was an idea for creating some sort of ... platonic ideal of a perfect poached egg... is something worthwhile to try.

Try it at home. It is not hard in theory to do so, but man, it takes skills to get the whites nice and firm, and the yolk just right, then get it onto the muffin and Canadian bacon without breaking the yolk, or getting poaching liquid on the muffin.

Mmmmmmmm...eggs benedict. possibly the best breakfast ever.