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Pelosi gets under Trump's skin in the most brutal way

newtboy says...

She’s right. He’s not man enough to stand behind his own actions, and not intelligent enough to not admit to serious crimes under oath if he testified. If he shows up, he will plead the fifth to every question, because his answers WOULD incriminate him in serious, treasonous crimes. As he said for years, only criminals plead the fifth, and he’s a criminal.
No matter how long he is sentenced to for ignoring the subpoena, it’s less than the time he’ll get if he testifies.

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

LMFAHS!!

Bipartisan hearing. Mostly Trump republicans testifying. All corroborated with indisputable evidence despite the ever increasing attempts at obstruction, the intentional destruction of evidence under subpoena, the number of officials pleading the fifth making them undeniably guilty in the court of public opinion and offering no defense in the court of law . That’s why you’re told “do not watch, it’s just a show, don’t, whatever you do, learn some facts about the attempted coup and fraud Trump and his administration was personally involved in planning and directing”.

Investigations are generally one sided, especially since the “other side” here is firm that there’s “no crime to investigate, it was a picnic and normal discourse, not a failed coup, not attempted election fraud on unheard of levels from within the government, Trump is perfect, investigation over”.
Do you think Capone was allowed to be part of the police force investigating him?
How about El Chapo…was he on his own investigatory committee? We’re the officials he was known to have paid off? 🤦‍♂️

Only no insurrectionist MAGAs because the accused doesn’t get to be part of the investigation, and the non complicit Republicans mostly refused to cross Trump with 2 notable exceptions….two life long multi generational actual Republicans, not the new anti America, anti democracy, anti sanity Q brand MAGAts.

Even intentionally ignorant, head in the sand idiots like you can see this simple fact.

bobknight33 said:

1 sided hearing,
Judge and jury all the same.

Idiots like you can even seen this simple fact.

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

How are you enjoying all the testimony corroborating the fact that the big lie was pre planned as a fraud, never had a thing to do with voter fraud but was nothing but a ploy to steal power and control by any means possible including violence, that every single claim came without a shred of evidence and wasn’t ever meant to have any, because they knew it wasn’t true before the big lie started.

Lemme guess….fake news.

Too bad most is on video with Stone and Bannon outlining the plot in October to simply claim victory, especially if Biden wins big, then claim fraud and maybe even find some (but that part isn’t a bit important to the plan). Pleading the fifth or ignoring subpoenas doesn’t mean you’re off the hook, it means your previous statements can be taken as your testimony with no rebuttal or explanations. D’oh!

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

So apparently Trump’s final (secret) move in office was to erase the “red flags” on 2.7 million PPP loans that would have caused the recipients to be investigated, and most would have been forced to return the money. All loans over $2 million had red flags erased, apparently the smaller loans didn’t get the same treatment, the most common red flag was that the companies didn’t exist in February 2020. (They were created on paper to defraud the PPP loan process set up by Trump’s administration with no oversight intentionally to allow fraud.)

$190 BILLION worth of flagged >$2 million loans to millionaires he demanded not be investigated for obvious fraud and instead be totally forgiven.

Kinda puts a damper on the “we can’t afford student loan forgiveness” of loans in the tens of thousands to the needy when we can afford fraudulent millionaire loan forgiveness of loans in the millions to millionaires, and tax giveaways to them in the millions at the same time.

More Republican crime covered up by Trump. Another $190 BILLION handed to millionaire crooks by their public spokesman….after $2 TRILLION in tax breaks.

In case you missed it, Trump’s Proud Boys are pleading guilty to seditious conspiracy, admitting they were attempting a coup for Trump at his direction and with some direct assistance and communication directly from highest ranking members of his administration (Stone, Giuliani, secret service agents) that knew what they were doing ahead of time.
They stood back and stood by until Trump called them to help with his coup. That’s treason. All parties complicit in the conspiracy are guilty too…that includes Trump and his family.
The sentence for treason is death. America may soon inherit a number of deep in debt golf courses! (Unless some nut with high powered guns they shouldn’t have takes matters into their own hands)

Lock Him Up Yesterday! - A Randy Rainbow Song Parody

newtboy says...

Right….investigating a deadly failed coup costing over 1/2 a billion dollars, dozens of election frauds (real ones, not the fantasy kind you love to investigate over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over with nothing ever coming of the fantasy besides wasted millions and dissolution of the Union), stealing and even possibly handing over/selling nuclear secrets (not keeping a few mislabeled files on a server later discovered to be low level classified), etc is just for show, America has no legitimate interest in punishing actual traitors….but what about her emails? That’s the important question we still need answered, right? 🤦‍♂️

If he’s done nothing wrong, the real question is why is Trump so petrified of court? So afraid he reversed his long time stance that only guilty people plead the fifth and pleaded the fifth hundreds of times….or did he change his stance?….hmmmmm….maybe not. 😂

For someone with nothing to fear, certain nothing will come of the charges, Trump and his cult are certainly acting like he’s already in prison awaiting execution! LMFAHS!

LET Trump run, please oh please let him run and split the right wing votes.….he just needs to be kept from holding office. Treasonous traitors that tried a violent coup once and election fraud 60+ times shouldn’t hold public office to try again. I know you disagree, and somehow you think that makes you patriotic.

Uh-oh….indications are Biden won’t run again. Now who you going to meme? President Newsom? Wouldn’t that stick in your craw!

bobknight33 said:

All just for show.
Just to keep the Trump war drum beating.
Just to keep Trump from running 2024.

The real question is why is the deep state so afraid of this man?

Nothing will come of this because Trump has done nothing wrong.

Trump’s Maralago Home Raided By FBI

newtboy says...

Absolutely 100% opposite of your position last month.
You ARE stupid.

Remember, you once said “telling the truth under oath when it will hurt you is stupid” when you were defending Trump outright lying under oath (by claiming he didn’t remember anything about any questions about his businesses…or anything, despite having the questions a month ahead of his interview to prepare and refresh his recollection… instead of pleading the fifth like I suggested he should have done, because he said pleading the fifth is admitting guilt).

bobknight33 said:

Are you stupid?
Everyone is supposed to take the 5th.

Uh-oh!

newtboy says...

The irony could not be more delicious.
In 2018, in an effort to put Clinton in prison and invalidate her as a candidate in the future, Trump and Republicans signed into law new, much harsher penalties for taking and keeping classified documents inappropriately. These new penalties were a (mandatory ?) 5 year sentence and making it a “hard” felony that cannot be lowered to a misdemeanor by pleading guilty. My read is that’s one charge for every page.
Also, it seems some of the stolen documents are top secret defense documents concerning our nuclear weapons…the most ultra classified information our government has…kept in an unlocked basement in an often empty, unguarded home.
Seems Trump inadvertently just made himself totally ineligible to run for office and likely an inmate for life. D’oh!

So, @bobknight33, Trump’s FBI head and a Trump judge followed a Trump enacted law to investigate Trump for definitely doing exactly what the right was apoplectic at the mere suggestion Clinton might have done but could find no evidence of.

BTW -Trump won’t release the warrant or receipt of what they took because it would include details about the meeting and subpoena he was served with in June after refusing to turn over the documents voluntarily since January when they were first discovered and requested by the DOJ…a subpoena he ignored forcing the raid…and would also list much of the ultra top secret defense documents concerning our nuclear arsenal he was keeping while hosting Russians, Chinese, Saudis, Israelis, maybe even N Koreans at his home where these secrets were being kept unsecured. There are serious questions as to whether he sold any to enemies of the state. There’s no question at all that he would if the price was right.

Edit: ESPIONAGE, OBSTRUCTION, REMOVING GOVERNMENT RECORDS
because they charge espionage, it doesn’t matter if he thinks and claims, like a king, saying the documents were declassified makes them declassified because it doesn’t hinge on the documents being classified, only if it’s harmful to our security if they’re unsecured. Bye Felicia!

Trump’s Maralago Home Raided By FBI

BSR says...

T-Rump pleads the 5th

Through their own words
They will be exposed
They've got a solid case of
The emperor's new clothes
The emperor's new clothes
The emperor's new clothes
The emperor's new clothes -Sinead O'Connor

bobknight33 said:

Just Political BS to ensure Trump does not run in 2024.
Keep trying , Keep it up. It just might work.

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Fraudster and wannabe Hitler Trump pleaded the fifth about his businesses being both over and under valued depending on which helps him at the time, because he’s guilty.
Remember, Trump says “only criminals invoke the fifth. The mafia invokes the fifth. The mob takes the fifth. If you’re innocent why are you taking the fifth? Taking the fifth, I think it’s disgraceful. It’s despicable people who invoke the fifth.” In this case, I agree.
Why, then, has he fought so hard to avoid being deposed court, one wonders.

So, by his own definition, Trump just pleaded guilty to bank fraud on an unheard of scale.
Pleading the fifth in a civil case can be viewed as legally binding admission of legal liability.

The “L”s just keep coming. How will Trump run if he’s in court on dozens of civil and criminal cases or prison?

Remember how you claimed Clinton was invalidated as a candidate because she was under (a purely partisan, umpteenth, disingenuous) investigation? Now you say “nothing burger” that Trump is under dozens of actual indictments, many criminal, and is considering running to attempt to shield himself from legal consequences of serious crimes?! Are you truly so blind you don’t see your constant blatant hypocrisy? Probably.

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Well, Trump’s “side”, (the side against America and democracy) is still fighting hard to not give any testimony, evidence, or in many cases even show up, leaving you with one “side”….but Rejoice!
You will….eventually….get that “other side”….the “alternative facts”…because we now know there is a DOJ criminal investigation of Trump’s Jan 6 actions right now.
When it concludes, then you’ll get the trial(s), and that’s when you get to hear the other side under oath (anything they say not under oath can be ignored)….but only if they don’t all plead the fifth, which is likely….guaranteed if they do he and you will complain you still don’t get to hear his side.

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

They’re still waiting for that “other side”…the “counterpoint of view”.
Still not even the secret service has accepted the invitation to come testify under oath, big surprise…and I think you know how Trump’s inner circle is fighting to keep silent, claiming privilege, defying subpoenas, hiding documents, destroying evidence, or showing up and pleading the fifth. If you want their side, tell THEM.

It’s true it’s not allowed…but not true the committee won’t allow it, they welcome it, in many cases they insist on it. There’s another party that wants their silence. Guess who. Hint, they complain their side isn’t being heard or represented.

bobknight33 said:

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Those other investigations had the other side to counter.

There is not 1 counter point of view - It is not allowed on this Bull Shit Jan 6 smear job.
….

Biden and the June job reports

BSR says...

"Take the blinders off. Make sure you step back and see what's going on." Stephen Ayres - Trump Supporter J6 Committee Witness Pleaded Guilty

bobknight33 said:

Trump, for all his BS turned America around and mad all of us better.

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Ruh-roe… Trump’s former White House Counsel Pat Cipollone testified to the 1/6 committee for 7 hours yesterday and didn’t plead the fifth and didn’t contradict other witness testimony.
YIKES!!
Don’t know what he said yet, but those two together must have the Marmalade Prez. Charade pooping in his diapers. Not good when the guy you went to to help you plan crimes testifies for that long.

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

2 more Trump officials have corroborated the limo story (not that it’s about anything besides character) and verified that Ornato is a well known liar that has repeatedly made public statements for Trump’s benefit that were complete fabrications made to hide the truth about Trump’s actions or orders. That’s 3 officials and all but 2 of the secret service.

No, throwing a tantrum and grabbing for the wheel isn’t something he’ll be charged with, but like any court, it goes to credibility, and destroys Trump’s, and his lackeys, meaning they won’t be able to give any legal defenses because anything they say is suspect and should be discarded by the courts. They should have just kept quiet until the actual trial.

I would bet that’s why you won’t see them try to force them to testify despite their “offer”. They wouldn’t have any testimony to give beyond lies and pleading the fifth, like nearly every other Trumpist.

Ruh roe, Sarah Mathews, deputy press secretary that quit on Jan 6 in disgust, scheduled to testify publicly July 12. Don’t miss it, or you won’t know why you’re trying to discredit her on the 13th. I’m sure, suddenly, she’ll become someone Trump barely knew, a never trumper, a closet liberal, who is only making up more lies to stop “hands so teeny Mousolini” from running in 24, like the dozens of other administration officials that testified.

Trump Wanted Armed Groups At His Jan 6 Rally

newtboy says...

Not the parts that matter, like him screaming to let his armed troopers into his rally to be ready to storm the capitol, because they aren’t there armed to hurt him.
Also not the part about him being apoplectic when they wouldn’t let him go to the capitol to lead the attack.
You will never wake up.

“Do you believe in the peaceful transfer of power?”
“I plead the fifth”- disgraced general Flynn (and every Fascist Trumpist)

bobknight33 said:

8 ‘Bombshells’ from Hutchinson Testimony Are All hearsay.
When will you wake up?



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