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Give Women the Right to Birth at Home (Blog Entry by persephone)

lesserfool says...

There will always be a place in my heart for Patton Oswalt's bitter antics and slightly bigoted hippy cliches.

I couldn't watch the emasculating home birth song, but I feel ya babe. My mother found a doctor willing to be on call when she was expecting and birthed all three kids at home surrounded by family in a familiar setting. As an added bonus, the doctor let her eat the placenta to regain her strength... and... um... everything worked out fine.

Dog Giving Birth - Eats placenta

transporter says...

jonny props on the placenta lasagna recipe. i didn't realize this was practiced by so many cultures. i see that it is theorized to cure postpartum depression/hemorrhaging, but what's it going to do for me?

so what do you do, just ask the doctor to put the placenta in a "to-go" box? is there a market for this type of thing? what's the going rate on a placenta ($/lb)? you were pretty quick on that response jonny, so i'm going to assume that you can answer these questions and more.

Dog Giving Birth - Eats placenta

Dog Giving Birth - Eats placenta

transporter says...

hahaha nice tag. do a lot of animals eat their placenta? if so, does that mean that early humans might have done this, too?

...i guess what i'm trying to say is: can i eat my wife's placenta??

Mommy Cat Gives Birth to Baby Cats

ROAST X: ITS XTREME!!!! (Parody Talk Post)

blankfist says...

This stupid thing still going on? If you haven't noticed, rasch187 ain't this important. He's Norwegian, remember? No one cares for the Norwegians. They're the turd-like residue left over after the Swedes left.

I'm glad to see thinker247 is here having a lot of fun with his 'First!' jokes. Those are so fresh. Thinker is like that guy that shows up at the high school reunion still making the jokes people didn't laugh at in high school. This clown had the misfortune to name himself 'thinker247', as if after a single comment post we wouldn't realize that was absolutely the opposite of what he should've named himself.

I'm glad they got Crosswords to MC this. That's a lot fun. Who's MCing the next roast? Anagrams? Nothing spells good times like a word puzzle with a knife welding raccoon avatar. I could not think of a more unremarkable person to host this, to be honest. Well, there is one: nibiyabi. "I'll put a pilgrim hat on Darwin and give him some googly eyes. That'll make me the life of the party!" No, nibiyabi, that makes you unfunny. Though, his profile claims he likes cat fart videos, so he can't be all bad, can he?

Who let rougy in here? Isn't there a warrant out for him yet? He's a forty something year old man with an avatar of a naked boy. Rougy fancies himself a poet. I normally like to encourage artists, but after reading his most recent poem Doorways & Beginnings I think encouraging him to continue would be like encouraging choggie to become a linguistics professor.

Good to see laura and alien_concept in here. Two of the resident women on the Sift. I'm not sure what good the two of you will do on here, though, because last I checked Dag and Lucky hadn't installed a kitchen. But, you're two progressive and self-actualized women, right? That's really great. Now, put a @$*# in that mouth and fetch me a ham and cheese sandwich.

Speaking of phallic items in mouths, I almost forgot this roast was about rasch. Rasch is an ugly guy. He is. I don't have a joke for that... he's just an ugly guy. I'm not saying he's the ugliest guy in the world, but his mom had to get drunk to breast feed him. When he was born, his mom tried to take home the placenta instead. Janet Reno is a handsomer man than he is.

Waterbirth

spoco2 says...

Great sift. And to the question in regards to the bub being underwater for a long time... yeah while they're still attached to the umbilical cord (before the placenta detaches from the mother) it's getting all it's oxygen directly in its blood through there.

There's a cool thing with babies in that they will not breath in until air touches their skin. There's a mechanism whereby once air touches their skin it triggers the breathing via the mouth/nose... so if you give birth underwater that is not yet triggered. It's also why you can't imediately put them into water if you happened to have been out of the water to begin with.

Good to see a more natural birth to counter the alarming increase in elective caesars and drug addled births.

World's first Male Pregnancy

Where do babies come from? A Christian sex ed video

MarineGunrock says...

hoju, I'm Christian, and I tagged it comedy. It's just so cheesy it's funny. Rofl @ the scene with the baby coming out. You wanna educate a child? Show then real child birth. No offense, ladies, but that whole this is just nasty. Especially the part with the placenta just falling out onto the bed. Blegh.

Cat Giving Birth

Quboid says...

Thank you for not putting this in the cute channel. It is beautiful in a way. But it is gross in a very obvious way, plus I kind of feel like I'm invading the cat's privacy :-S

I remember seeing my cat eating a placenta, I was too young to know what it was and I thought a kitten was born deformed and she was eating it! That same cat is lying on my bed behind me with her head tucked under her one remaining foreleg. Now that deserves a cute tag!

persephone (Member Profile)

redthing says...

I have nothing against natural birth - as I said in my original comment it's ultimately the womans choice. I do however dislike biased videos that make women feel guilty for not going the route of natural birth and portray alternatives as wrong and harmful for the mother and the baby.

In reply to your comment:
You're right, redthing, women should be able to choose how they want to birth. Your linked article is in promotion of elective caesarian and states that 1 in 4 women make this choice for good reasons.

Women at high risk make this choice wisely, however I would argue that if a woman chooses this option to avoid the trauma of a natural birth, then she is not making an informed choice, because there is significant and prolonged pain after a caesarian and the risks of damage occurring to the woman or the baby are not negligible.

Have you ever seen one performed?

Providing they get the epidural right and don't have to repeat the procedure too often (it's not fun when they bungle attempts) and that the anesthetic is working properly, the woman won't feel the incision, but she will feel them wrestling the baby out, because it's not an easy chore to extract several pounds of newborn and placenta from a ten inch incision (they are getting so good at the bikini cut, but it's just SO tight)

Hopefully the anesthetic is still going strong while they sew up the uterus and shove it all back in. The woman may not be too out of it by then to see the baby held before her face, before they race it off for intubation, weighing, washing etc, but if she was as stressed out as women I have seen, they could knock her out for a while until it's all over.

Of course the pain doesn't end there. Any time the pain-killers wear off over the next few weeks, she'll get a little reminder that she's just had major surgery. She may not be able to walk erect for a while (days to weeks) because the stitches hurt and pull. And then there's her tender lap that is pretty painful to get a baby resting comfortably on while she struggles to breastfeed.

Finally, there's emotional pain to deal with. Like any labour there're the joys and sorrows of the experience. I believe birth shold be an empowering experience, a woman's rite of passage. I would argue that she cannot be empowered when her experience renders her a vessel from which a baby is removed, especially when the choice for caesarian was made simply to avoid pain.

You might think I'm painting a worst-case scenario here, but I haven't mentioned the serious damage the woman and baby could endure. I'll leave it up to any woman reading this to educate herself about those statistics, if she feels she needs to be informed, of course.

In reply to your comment:
Ultimately it's the womans choice.
People need to recognise the diversity of birth experiences.

in support of natural birth

persephone says...

You're right, redthing, women should be able to choose how they want to birth. Your linked article is in promotion of elective caesarian and states that 1 in 4 women make this choice for good reasons.

Women at high risk make this choice wisely, however I would argue that if a woman chooses this option to avoid the trauma of a natural birth, then she is not making an informed choice, because there is significant and prolonged pain after a caesarian and the risks of damage occurring to the woman or the baby are not negligible.

Have you ever seen one performed?

Providing they get the epidural right and don't have to repeat the procedure too often (it's not fun when they bungle attempts) and that the anesthetic is working properly, the woman won't feel the incision, but she will feel them wrestling the baby out, because it's not an easy chore to extract several pounds of newborn and placenta from a ten inch incision (they are getting so good at the bikini cut, but it's just SO tight)

Hopefully the anesthetic is still going strong while they sew up the uterus and shove it all back in. The woman may not be too out of it by then to see the baby held before her face, before they race it off for intubation, weighing, washing etc, but if she was as stressed out as women I have seen, they could knock her out for a while until it's all over.

Of course the pain doesn't end there. Any time the pain-killers wear off over the next few weeks, she'll get a little reminder that she's just had major surgery. She may not be able to walk erect for a while (days to weeks) because the stitches hurt and pull. And then there's her tender lap that is pretty painful to get a baby resting comfortably on while she struggles to breastfeed.

Finally, there's emotional pain to deal with. Like any labour there're the joys and sorrows of the experience. I believe birth shold be an empowering experience, a woman's rite of passage. I would argue that she cannot be empowered when her experience renders her a vessel from which a baby is removed, especially when the choice for caesarian was made simply to avoid pain.

You might think I'm painting a worst-case scenario here, but I haven't mentioned the serious damage the woman and baby could endure. I'll leave it up to any woman reading this to educate herself about those statistics, if she feels she needs to be informed, of course.



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