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Content Moderation: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)

luxintenebris says...

another head scratcher/gut churner/soul sighing show. it's way over time to get some patrols on the 'information highway'. the web of lies/undue social influence/bias reporting/echo chambers and general nastiness needs some lines of (lack of a better word) decency that nary be crossed.
it's been done before.
'fire in a crowed theater' put some measurement on of the definition of 'free speech'. there is a line where 'free speech' fails to be freedom & becomes the dungeons of despair.
it's a tough subject to gauge, but do trust caring* people can draw a 'line-in-the-sand' so young people don't kill themselves over cyber bulling. or hyper-partisan yodels don't attack random INNOCENT people. or where honesty and a love of variable facts becomes a touchstone.
it needs to happen.
this would be the (past) time to get all types together and hammer out some guidelines. Maybe, use existing laws. change the 230(#?) shield limits. AI monitoring. or have civil suits to sue, sue, and sue until the posting of anything that comes into a person's head, meets a reality check.
not against the exchange of ideas, challenges of the norms, or any free speech of merit (or even some of dubious value) -but just getting us out of the muck of the 'muddy minimum-maintenance roadway of disinformation'.
peace.


*extend that to all of the 'sick-of-this-s*it' folk)

Trump Closes the border.

newtboy says...

By decree, he has also claimed to have ended FEMA, saying states should take care of themselves, not each other. The south is doomed….California will just withhold federal taxes and pay for itself, and save tens of billions of dollars per year that way, Louisiana alone will be $10 billion per year in the hole or more. All southern states are “takers” from the fed… Enjoy.

Eggs are $9 already and skyrocketing and he completely abandoned the promise to lower grocery prices, now says it’s impossible.

When told his policies are already crashing the economy on live TV by Hannity he answered “I don’t care”.

We will be in a depression this summer, and a real military invasion by Xmas (unless he hands Alaska to Russia and Hawaii to China).

His first plan to stop the Ukraine war….tell Putin he is planning tariffs and sanctions on anything Russia sells the U.S. (clearly not knowing they’ve been in effect for years already, and that Russia hasn’t sold anything to the US in years).

Pardoned more terrorists including those who pleaded guilty to treason/sedition and violence against police.
Some were re-arrested for more violent felonies they committed under a day after release. He invited these convicted anti American criminal thugs to the Whitehouse.
This is exactly what he did in 2020 in Afghanistan before handing the country to the criminal terrorist Taliban (yes, he even invited Taliban leaders to Camp David and the Whitehouse)…a group he seems to look up to. Thank goodness some judges refuse to dismiss with prejudice so they can be retried if law and order ever return to America….unlikely.

Once again, he already dismantled our pandemic response team right as bird flu is emerging in America, and decreed our health agencies cannot make any statements or recommendations but must keep silent and useless. Buy PPE!

His plans to deport every undocumented alien are estimated to cost multiple trillions per year directly just to try and cost the economy up to another $10 trillion per year in lost production…absolutely devastating and turning us into a third world nation overnight.

Is there peace in Ukraine yet? His new stated plan is to ask President Xi of China who is supplying Russia with military equipment and ammo to solve it for him. Russia is publicly mocking him and Smelania (by broadcasting her soft core porn constantly), laughing at his “threats” and giddy at their luck that Biden is gone and their cucked boy is back.

Shocker, these decrees are all directly from project 2025, written by the project 2025 committees, and many Trump doesn’t know what he’s signing since he wasn’t involved in drafting the orders….exactly as we knew would happen.

UPDATE: Decree #1, ending birthright citizenship, shut down by a Republican judge with a hilarious rebuke.

Also fun, 75% of farm workers didn’t show up to work this week. Harvests are essentially cancelled. Prepare for double digit inflation at the grocery store in short order. $9 eggs is just a start.

Trump Closes the border.

newtboy says...

Is there anyone actually stupid enough to believe a word he says?
….Maybe the people who think Harris was just the president. 😂

Has peace broken out in Ukraine yet?

Fun Ways To Celebrate January 6 (a satire)

newtboy says...

100% of maga supports the failed deadly violent coup attempted by thousands upon thousands of violent, many armed, terrorists for Trump or they wouldn’t be maga.

Nope, they’ll celebrate by pretending it didn’t happen, and it was thuggish BLM, and it was a totally peaceful, and it was violent ANTIFA agents pretending to be Trumpists, and it was a love fest, and it was an attack directed and instigated entirely by undercover fbi agents, and by pre-celebrating the expected pardons for the most violent cop beating armed terrorists, the only ones still in prison 4 years later (PS- accepting a pardon is an admission of guilt).

This goes for 100% of maga, because 100% now intentionally ignore that it happened and pretend that it doesn’t make them treasonous anti Americans and anti democratic foreign agents all to support the man who fomented a violent anti democratic coup against America….but it does.

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

He knows it’s over.
That’s why he’s refusing to sign off on the peaceful transfer of power, refusing to sign the agreements that allow them to vet their proposed administration officials, they are refusing the over $7 million in government funding to prepare for the transition, and refusing access to free office space.
He’s refusing because his officials would have to sign ethics agreements, and his donors would be limited to $5k donations and would be publicly listed. Watch, he won’t disclose them ever because most of his funding comes from hostile foreign powers that want to harm America, like Russia (Iran’s biggest ally). He doesn’t need it because his team has been put together by the Heritage foundation and project 2025 and they know they won’t pass a vetting…and he doesn’t need it because his chances of winning have evaporated and now it’s pure grift.

😂 He’s rage tantrum tweeting that CBS should lose their license to broadcast because he refused to be interviewed and they reported it. He has now threatened to revoke the license of all 3 major networks and a multitude of smaller ones, and Google, for reporting his words and actions. 😂

Maggots in the hurricane zone are refusing assistance because of the stupidity you have been sold. I hope you are one. Good job. Don’t take a dime of FEMA assistance or they will take your property and give it to Haitians! Don’t even evacuate or they won’t let you go home! I hope that culled a few thousand morons or more. Is this you?

He knows. If he thought he might win, he would never be doing this. It’s going to kill him with non cultists and would make a transition nearly impossible.

PS- turns out Kavenaugh was never investigated by the FBI, (the “supplemental background information” they have provided for Supreme Court nominees since their inception), the felon blocked their investigation and would not let them investigate any of the thousands of tips of sexual assaults reported to them. The report was just released. He’s another rapist that the rapist in chief protected, and has 4500 reports of misconduct to blackmail him with. More sick maga criminal debauchery every single day…real violent criminal sexual abuses not just idiotic baseless accusations like you produce.

Oh no! 300 more pages of evidence against the felon are to be released today/tomorrow, the appendix to the 160 page brief of the evidence released last week. Sounds like he missed another deadline to file what he wants redacted, so it may go out in edited! He really doesn’t want this evidence public, especially now that voting has started! Oof!

Zelensky Celebrates Signing Security Agreement With The US

newtboy says...

Hilariously clueless.
Russia is losing a war they’ve been fighting by choice since 2014, and has destroyed itself, an entire generation, it’s military, it’s economy, it’s fight against NATO and EU expansion, it’s blossoming commercial relationship with the US and the west, and it’s position on the world stage over a desire to rebuild the USSR and an invasion based on the absolutely ridiculous lie that a Jewish comedian/president has turned an entire country of peaceful Democratic Ukrainians into a war bent nation of rabid bloodthirsty Nazis with biological weapons factories on the border ready to strike mother Russia overnight. It is asinine, and no surprise you repeat it.
After Biden’s new treaty announced today, Ukrainian military superiority is assured (they were winning already using RC boats and planes, how do you think they’ll do with F-16 squadrons and Patriot missile systems?).
😂 As if they did it just to make you look silly, Russian state tv announced today that it is so dire that banks have actually stopped allowing any withdrawals, and Russian stock markets collapsed and went offline after announcing they would no longer trade with dollars or euros!

Russia is winning? ARE YOU KIDDING!?! Russia is COLLAPSING!! 😂

BTW-Russia was a party to the trilateral agreement that by treaty secured Ukraine’s borders against all incursions. They not only chose to invade purely by choice, it was a clear violation of the anti nuclear proliferation agreement and in fact (by some interpretations) gives Ukraine the legal right to respond with nuclear weapons….if only they still had any, but they gave them all up voluntarily for those exact assurances from Russia and ourselves to protect their borders in perpetuity (forever).

bobknight33 said:

A historic day (for the Military Industrial Complex).

Russia is winning a war that that they didn't want.

Woke people be like...

newtboy says...

Learn how to read you complete moron. I showed you the lie and debunked it for you above.

I am sickened that there are so many idiotic ignorami prepared to ignore reality and reason to be in a fascist racist misogynistic anti democratic cult of ignorance. Before maga America was so much better, so much more adult, so much more logical, and incredibly more United, Trump is the great divider.
When an idiot like you claims I’m wrong, that my beliefs are just stupid, it’s great evidence that they are well thought out and correct, because you absolutely never are correct, not even a little bit. How’s that “all in on Tesla in Nov 2021” advice doing? Remember all those red tsunamis coming? Remember the charges coming for Clinton in ‘17? The trade deals that will net us trillions? The wall that will stop immigration and be paid for by Mexico? Jared creating real lasting peace in the Middle East? Remember the lie that the Trump economy was good (only president to lose jobs since Hover, first to have a negative gdp in peacetime EVER, zero investment in America, hundreds of thousands of businesses closed, education in the toilet, biggest government fraud program ever (ppp “loans”)). The “covid is a cold and nothingburger that will go away without issues” theories? 😂

You ARE just sickened because your idiotic easily debunked hate filled propaganda has never gained a single bit of traction here, and is discarded more often than not. You’ve never convinced one person with any of your stupid STUPID nonsensical whining and lying. You only posted because you got discarded, again, and threw a tantrum like the eunuch infant you are.

bobknight33 said:

Show me the Lie
Debunked ? How?

You just sickened because you are being shown that your beliefs are just stupid

Police And Security Stand Back While Zionists Attack Protest

Reefie says...

Anyone who is not actively campaigning for peace, be it in Gaza or anywhere else in the world where conflict continues unabated, they are complicit in the killings of innocent people. Not our business I hear some say - nonsense, you either want happiness for everyone or you have serious mental issues. Which is it?

Government creates inflation

newtboy says...

To my “the fool”-
Again you lie. Point to when I ever said that you fucktard. I have ALWAYS said deficit matters, so does intelligent spending, so does overall debt, so does our national credit rating. All went to shit faster than ever before or since under your dementia riddled crime boss.

Your brain is mush. You just make up nonsense constantly, then contradict yourself.
It was you who said for 4 years that deficits don’t matter while your idiot ran up the deficit and debt faster than ever before and I shouted daily that he was bankrupting the nation and not getting anything for it, at least Biden invested his spending in America, didn’t waste it on useless trade wars, tax breaks for the ultra rich (that didn’t trickle down or stimulate the economy) and PPP handout loans to business “owners” (that didn’t have to be repaid and were ripe with fraud because there were no standards, no vetting, because it was in fact designed to be easy to defraud and was the most fraudulent assistance program in history) and other ego driven stupidity that gained nothing, all this at America’s expense with no benifits.

I have never once said anything nearly so stupid. You have often. Let me ask (for you to ignore the question because you hate the answer)…who had the last balanced budget…who last paid down the debt? Hint- it rhymes with Minton. Which party presided over the last 3 major recessions? Hint- they all wear red ties.

You denied spending mattered when it was out of control under maga leadership, you have absolutely not been saying this all along you liar. When I said starting in early 2020 that Trump’s out of control spending spree and crashed economy in 2020 would result in high inflation… you denied it was related, then blamed Biden when the predicted inflation spike hit.

Government needs to spend wisely, not for ego and spite like Trump spent. Biden spent a lot, but it revived the economy much faster than any other Western nation after Covid and improved GDP significantly….after Trump’s Covid response was the worst in any Western nation by far making killing Americans at 5 times the percapita average worldwide and turning our GDP to a negative for the first time in history in peace time.

The Republicans have blocked a balanced budget for decades, but we do have a budget, moron. Their obstruction, trying to shut down the government out of spite has lowered our credit rating costing billions or trillions for absolutely no gains.

Maga would prefer no government at all and is actively working against the government functioning, but these idiots can’t see past their “freedom” (freedom to be horrifically evil, racist, uncivil, and inhumane) to understand that we would become Russia or China in a week, and their little home protection guns and fake “militia” clubs won’t kill a single soldier in the invasion.

Still waiting you ballless wonder. Such a whining little cowardly infant…DJ really turned you into a petty, uneducated, idiotic pansy boy. Must be all that fantasizing about sucking the mushroom tip. It’s hilarious your insecurity forces you to keep displaying your insecurity publicly, incapable of admitting you’ve ever been w-w-w-wrong (despite your never actually being right, especially when it comes to speaking English) because you’re so insecure you are certain that if you admitted you made a mistake no one will love you. 😂

bobknight33 said:

Your the fool that keeps saying deficit does not matter.
Now you want to claim otherwise. Funny.



I've been saying this all along.

Government need a budget not CRs.

This non budget has been going on for nearly 20 years.

Trump Bloodbath statement Has leftest spin the lie

newtboy says...

Nice try at spinning away from what he said, repeatedly.

Trump is clear and consistent…when he loses he will direct his cult to riot and attack liberals and the government, again….he’s already told them to be ready.
When he said if he loses there will be massive bloodshed across America, he means exactly that. Nobody is fooled by the idiotic excuses and lies, @bobknight33. It’s far from the first time he’s said that.

That’s why there’s an industry selling “ready packages” for assaults to MAGA like the Rittenhouse Pack that includes (but isn’t limited to) full ballistic body armor, additional ceramic body armor plates, multi magazine holsters for multiple extended mags in multiple calibers, trauma pads and other first aid, and hydration because it’s thirsty work taking over a nation by force. These aren’t defensive items, they are assault items being sold exclusively to MAGA.
It’s why people like Bannon are telling their crowds to be prepared to go to prison to get Trump in office and dismantle the “administrative state” (by which he means the Federal government). These are crowds of MAGA politicians and appointees. You don’t go to prison for being peaceful lawful citizens.

WE ALL SEE THE PLANS HERE. You should know, vests don’t stop black talons or other Teflon coated bullets, and we know it.

He said the foreign car industry will fail if he wins, can’t sell those cars but that’s the least of your problems because it will be a bloodbath FOR THE COUNTRY if he loses and that (lower car sales) will be the least of it. That is the context, he’s calling for/predicting a bloodbath across America BY HIS FOLLOWERS if (when) he loses the election, not predicting a bloodbath in the auto industry (like the one that happened his first term).
I know that’s clear to even you, you just can’t admit it or you think you’ll give the game away…but nobody is fooled. Plausible deniability requires plausibility.

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

BTW- Trump’s closest advisors have testified that Trump, contrary to his claims, never told the rioters to leave or stay peaceful on Jan 6, Dan Scovino wrote the messages to “stay peaceful” and later “Go home. We love you. You’re very special.” while Trump wrote the incendiary comments like “Mike Pence didn’t have the courage to do what should have been done.”
Smith has all the meta data proving who wrote what and when and it’s horrific for Diaper Don.
So much for that part of his defense.
https://newrepublic.com/post/177917/trump-january-6-tweet-peaceful-protest-defense-didnt-write-it

Is Donald Trump a Fascist? | Robert Reich

luxintenebris says...

am aware of the adage 'can't make it drink' & y'all being one dehydrated horse

but, does anything ever quiver - shake - hum in your cognizance? as if something is trying to get attention?

most folks like to look at themselves in a mirror before they go out in public. check for stains - zippers - or anything that might give others the impression they're careless or slovenly.

y'all are acting like a vampire looking in a mirror.

because...

- don is full-blown mentally ill. he isn't driving. forget everything else...he is balls-to-wall sunk-in insane
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/narcissistic-personality-disorder/symptoms-causes/syc-20366662

- don is lip-syncing Adolph
https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-donald-trump-adolf-hitler-viral-quote-comparison-accurate-1843501

- IS a Fascist
https://youtu.be/nW0UkoEJY5A?si=vAf6QJz1z2Q4RtAp


that 'peace' is torpid acuity.

bobknight33 said:

I walk in peace knowing that there are a very stupid and gullible people like you walking around.

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

lol. Manly Traitor Greene now says she was terrified for her life on Jan 6 because the armed violent rioters were so threatening and she was only saved by an unnamed congressman with a gun.
Of course, she’s claiming with no evidence that they were armed ANTIFA agents she was so afraid of (showing she doesn’t understand what ANTIFA is) and ignoring that every conviction so far has been a MAGA moron who say in court that they tried to steal the office of president for Trump.
Hilariously she doesn’t realize she’s now calling the very convicts she likes to visit in prison and call “peaceful tourists” armed rioters that made her fear for her life on Jan 6.
How does she think Pelosi felt? They weren’t chanting “where’s Marjory” while shitting on HER desk and ransacking her office.

As a bonus, Trump’s lawyers just filed a brief looking for more discovery in which they assert “Russia, through its government funded channel RT and other means, executed a Kremlin directed campaign to undermine faith in the (incumbent) US Government and fuel political protest.” (Which would clearly favor the challenger….now who was the challenger in 2016?). Yes, this is Trump arguing in court filings that he needs unredacted classified documents for his defense because Russia interfered in the 2016 and 2020 election on his behalf! 😂

Palestinian UN Ambassador At UN

newtboy says...

“ It’s your insistence that Jewish people, and the existence of Israel, have always fundamentally been invaders that I was objecting to as it is so intensely at odds with factual history.”
No…it is at odds with your position and is not what I said.
It is factual history that fighting age European Jews came armed and forcibly displaced the natives after being offered sanctuary for their most needy. It is not factual that I claimed it was ever thus. That is clearly not what I said, I said for 10+- years they were getting along as refugees, then started coming in HUGE numbers illegally and taking over.

Those are facts.

I also mentioned a native Jewish population that were not refugees or invaders. Some of them supported the invading Zionists, some didn’t. I’ve never heard of one who opposed them.

“ You gave a brief nod on not being a scholar of Palestinian history, but then proceed to just count all Jewish refugees as good as Zionist aggressors from day 1(or close enough), and the local Arab population as nothing but pure, kind caring victims of these invaders.”

Not even close to true, I said many stood behind the Zionists when they started coming en masse, and didn’t say but seemingly few to none of the native Jews opposed them. I also was clear that at the beginning the refugees acted like refugees, not invaders….I mistakenly gave them more time being grateful than you say they were, according to you Palestinians position is they began the invasion in the 20’s….and theirs is the opinion I care about. I never claimed ALL Arabs were welcoming, but the “nation” as a whole (despite being not self ruling at the time) welcomed a huge number of refugees considering their own population. Way more than elsewhere.

Edit: Britain, who facilitated this invasion, only took in 80000 European Jews in the decade before and during the war, and they were only given transit visas to stay temporarily until they found other accommodations. All of England took in fewer Jewish refugees in all pre war history than Palestine did….England took in 80000, most on temporary visas, Palestine took in 60000 permanently in 1935 alone, and 130000 in 33-36.
Pre-immigration Palestine had about 700000 people. In 1944 European Jews ignored the 1500 visa limit per year and came by the hundred of thousands per year after already completely overwhelming the native population.
Palestine was forcibly invaded by a foreign population exponentially bigger than the native population while Britain kept them too weak to oppose it physically.
That’s an invasion…not on day 1. 🤦‍♂️

“ without being able to writeoff Israel as invaders from day 1, nuance enters the calculus and suddenly the conflict is flooded with shades of grey ”

Again, I said day 3, not day 1, and went on to say that meant 10 years later. Get off your high horse and READ buddy.

I guess I’ll stop here. If you aren’t going to read what I wrote and insist on arguing red herrings you made up yourself, you can do that alone.

Nothing you’ve said changes or excuses the fact that masses of armed violent invaders came to take the land from the natives by force and were successful. The exact date this happened is not only y highly subjective, it’s completely besides the point.
Nothing you’ve said changes or excuses the inhuman treatment they’ve subjected the innocent native civilian population to for 70 years…but you’ve tried.
Nothing you’ve said changes or excuses the intentional targeting of trapped civilians by the military….serious war crimes Israel commits daily.
Nothing you’ve said even hints that you consider Palestinians worthy of consideration themselves, possibly not even human status, definitely not peaceful existence.

Bye

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