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>> ^sepatown:

Noam can be a bit of an argumentative dick sometimes. Plus, he's flat out wrong on some things; like the Libyan Rebels not wanting military intervention, they've been pleading for it for a week now.


I don't think he comes across as augmentative he pretty much just states facts and goes over historical events which is accentually his bred ad butter ( researching past historical activity of countries) pax man is the one been all emotive in a stupid way.

It's a good thing there were no children at PAX to be scarred for life by that image.

>> ^ant:

>> ^JustT1m:
Apparently the press were shown an uncensored trailer at PAX. Id imagine that its uncensored in game.

I will assume it will have an option to censor or not too like Duke3D?


Yes, and it'll have an option to merely stun the enemies instead of killing them and Duke will say "It's time to be polite and eat healthy, and I'm all out of broccoli"...

>> ^JustT1m:

Apparently the press were shown an uncensored trailer at PAX. Id imagine that its uncensored in game.


I will assume it will have an option to censor or not too like Duke3D?

Apparently the press were shown an uncensored trailer at PAX. Id imagine that its uncensored in game.

@WKB

True, but when the Columbine school shooting was perpetrated, conservatives were quick to point the finger at Marilyn Manson's lyrics. I'm not saying they were right, and I'm not saying that Fox deserves all of the blame here either.

I do think though, that the people pumping that kind of rhetoric onto the airwaves deserve SOME responsibility for atrocities like this. Allow me to compare the Woodstock of 1970 to the Woodstock of '99 for an example.

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>>>>>>The 1970 Woodstock (billed as "3 days of Peace and Music") resulted in reports like this:

"The New York Times covered the prelude to the festival and the move from Wallkill to Bethel.[13] Barnard Collier, who reported from the event for the Times, asserts that he was pressured by on-duty editors at the paper to write a misleadingly negative article about the event. According to Collier, this led to acrimonious discussions and his threat to refuse to write the article until the paper's executive editor, James Reston, agreed to let him write the article as he saw fit. The eventual article dealt with issues of traffic jams and minor lawbreaking, but went on to emphasize cooperation, generosity, and the good nature of the festival goers.

When the festival was over, Collier wrote another article about the exodus of fans from the festival site and the lack of violence at the event. The chief medical officer for the event and several local residents were quoted as praising the festival goers."

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>>>>>>The 1999 version of the event (featuring bands like Metallica, Rage Against the Machine, Korn, Limp Bizkit, Kid Rock and the Red Hot Chili Peppers who are all, dare I say, a bit angrier [lyrically speaking] than the likes of Arlo Guthrie or Joan Baez) is painted in a much different color:

"Some crowd violence and looting was reported during the Saturday night performance by Limp Bizkit, including a rendition of the song "Break Stuff". Reviewers of the concert criticized Limp Bizkit frontman Fred Durst as "irresponsible" for encouraging the crowd to destructive behavior.

Violence escalated the next night during the final hours of the concert as Red Hot Chili Peppers performed. A group of peace promoters led by an independent group called Pax had distributed candles to those stopping at their booth during the day, intending them for a candlelight vigil to be held during the Red Hot Chili Peppers' performance of the song "Under the Bridge". During the band's set, the crowd began to light the candles, some also using them to start bonfires. The hundreds of empty plastic water bottles that littered the lawn/dance area were used as fuel for the fire.

After the Red Hot Chili Peppers were finished with their main set, the audience was informed about "a bit of a problem." An audio tower caught fire, and the fire department was called in to extinguish it.

Back onstage for an encore, the Chili Peppers' lead singer Anthony Kiedis remarked how amazing the fires looked from the stage, comparing them to a scene in the film Apocalypse Now.[12] The band proceeded to play "Sir Psycho Sexy", followed by their rendition of Jimi Hendrix's "Fire". Kiedis later stated in his autobiography, Scar Tissue that Jimi Hendrix's sister had asked the Chili Peppers to play "Fire" in honor of Jimi and his performance at the original Woodstock festival, and that they were not playing it to encourage the crowd.

Many large bonfires were burning high before the band left the stage for the last time. Participants danced in circles around the fires. Looking for more fuel, some tore off panels of plywood from the supposedly inviolable security perimeter fence. ATMs were tipped over and broken into, trailers full of merchandise and equipment were forced open and burglarized, and abandoned vendor booths were turned over, and set afire.[13]

MTV, which had been providing live coverage, removed its entire crew. MTV host Kurt Loder described the scene in the July 27, 1999 issue of USA Today:

"It was dangerous to be around. The whole scene was scary. There were just waves of hatred bouncing around the place, (...) It was clear we had to get out of there.... It was like a concentration camp. To get in, you get frisked to make sure you're not bringing in any water or food that would prevent you from buying from their outrageously priced booths. You wallow around in garbage and human waste. There was a palpable mood of anger."

After some time, a large force of New York State Troopers, local police, and various other law enforcement arrived. Most had crowd control gear and proceeded to form a riot-line that flushed the crowd to the northwest, away from the stage located at the eastern end of the airfield. Few of the crowd offered strong resistance and they dispersed quickly back toward the campground and out the main entrance."

>>>>>>See also, this poignant response from a person in the crowd: http://newsroom.mtv.com/2009/08/17/woodstock-legacy/ (crowdmember comments @ 2:20)

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Now now easy there big fella, before you start telling me about how correlation does not imply causation consider this: an article recently published by the American Journal of Psychiatry concluded that:

"Childhood exposure to parental verbal aggression was associated, by itself, with moderate to large effects on measures of dissociation, limbic irritability, depression, and anger-hostility." Furthermore, "Combined exposure to verbal abuse and witnessing of domestic violence was associated with extraordinarily large adverse effects, particularly on dissociation. This finding is consonant with studies that suggest that emotional abuse may be a more important precursor of dissociation than is sexual abuse."
See: http://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/content/full/163/6/993

Maybe not the best example I could have found but I've already spent WAY too much time on this post. The point is, WORDS carry a lot of power. Even if the pundits (right OR left) never came out and said it, the implication of violence was certainly there at times.

I KNOW Fox has lead the charge of fear mongering in the name of ratings but anyone else who subscribed to that level of attack should share some of the blame as well. Again, not saying that they should take all or even a lot of the blame, but they should be responsible for the violent laced rhetoric they spout.

I say STOP THE AD HOMINEM ATTACKS and we'll see less violence against PEOPLE and (hopefully) more enthralling arguments where the IDEAS are being attacked (which I'm all for) :-)

p.s. sry for the huge post but i was on a roll

In a good group, there's a lot more role-playing than dice-rolling.>> ^eric3579:

Wow, I had no idea. Is this how everyone plays D&D(minus the crowd)?

K-Pax is a great movie. Kevin Spacey is awesome as always.

This is the same demo given at PAX Prime 2010 in Seattle minus the developer commentary

Got to see this live at PAX, and it was definitely one of the best games there. (Also got beta codes... woot.)

>> ^poolcleaner:

>> ^mgittle:
Agreed with above...
Console tards...sigh...

What's with all the hate?


What's with not wanting me to dislike things? Is the "If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all" rule really a good rule? What about the guys at Bear Stearns who got fired for saying the housing market won't go up forever? It's like, my opinion, man, that it's totally the same thing. Stop trying to make me "irrationally positive or shut up" or something.

Also, if you've ever played portal on PC (I don't even know if #1 is available on console), some of the puzzles require pretty amazing timing, and I'm pretty sure they'd be near impossible with the analog stick aiming. So, if portal 2's puzzles get dumbed down on PC to comply with console input device limitations, I will be quite disappointed.

Not to mention challenge levels and speed runs...hopefully the console and PC versions simply have different level designs.

I'd like to see this on console:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPeL8ylhbBw

/rolleyes

>> ^mgittle:

Agreed with above...
Console tards...sigh...


What's with all the hate?

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