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Rebecca Vitsmun, The Oklahoma Atheist, Tells Her Story

shelynn says...

Had to share this one on FB: "...even the so called "rabid atheists" (Dawkins et al) of the present day simply aren't comparable. The lunatic fringe of religion is well documented (WBC, al Qaeda, etc) as is the harm caused by even mainstream religion (ban on condoms, hiding pedophiles).

There simply isn't anything comparable from even the most evangelical of the new atheists. Even dickheads like Pat Condell are small potatoes compared to the other side.

The reason why atheism is unique over other belief systems is because it isn't one. There is no atheist tract or creed that must be upheld. There are simply people who reject attempts by others to force them to comply with their particular belief set.

Now, if an atheist terror group appears tomorrow and starts bombing churches or even if an atheist political party* demanded the outlawing of religion, I would condemn them, but that hasn't happened.

Put simply, I've never had an atheist knock on my door and say "have you heard the word of Dawkins?"

*what would that even look like, given that atheism has no political affiliation?" ...because I enjoyed it that much. Thanks C.

Rebecca Vitsmun, The Oklahoma Atheist, Tells Her Story

ChaosEngine says...

It's not so much that dangerous fundamentalist atheism is impossible. As you said, Stalin and Mao proved otherwise, although an argument could be made that their zealotry was politically based, but I digress.

It's more that even the so called "rabid atheists" (Dawkins et al) of the present day simply aren't comparable. The lunatic fringe of religion is well documented (WBC, al Qaeda, etc) as is the harm caused by even mainstream religion (ban on condoms, hiding pedophiles).

There simply isn't anything comparable from even the most evangelical of the new atheists. Even dickheads like Pat Condell are small potatoes compared to the other side.

The reason why atheism is unique over other belief systems is because it isn't one. There is no atheist tract or creed that must be upheld. There are simply people who reject attempts by others to force them to comply with their particular belief set.

Now, if an atheist terror group appears tomorrow and starts bombing churches or even if an atheist political party* demanded the outlawing of religion, I would condemn them, but that hasn't happened.

Put simply, I've never had an atheist knock on my door and say "have you heard the word of Dawkins?"

*what would that even look like, given that atheism has no political affiliation?

bcglorf said:

My problem is that I think you miss the real flaw when tying fundamentalist attitudes to organized religion. Particularly when you point out that following ideology X(say, atheism) renders one uniquely immune to said fundamentalism.

Zealotry and fundamentalism appear to be in our DNA. Declaring that ANY ideology, system or plan renders a group immune to that zealotry has historically been exactly how each new form of zealotry and fundamentalism is founded and kicked off. The followers of Lenin and Mao all rallied around ideologies of socialism/marxism to justify their atrocities. In particular, the rallying belief that socialism would uniquely create a government that would protect the interests of the people. No organized religion required there, they even used a lot of anti-religious rhetoric too.

My simple point is people claiming that uniqueness for their ideology is EXACTLY the problem and it angers me to see so many flaunting it as the solution.

How Gay Is Islam?

ChaosEngine says...

Ugh, Pat Condell.

This guy's not interesting, insightful or funny. He happens to be right some of the time, but that more by coincidence than anything else. He's really just a dickhead.

11-Year-Old Girl Speaks Out About Forced Marriage

chingalera says...

For the 1st country in the Arabian peninsula to afford women the right to vote, member of the United Nations, blah blah blah, 2013 and these Shia-stone-age cunts fuck their own children-....Throwbacks kept in the dark and fed shit instead of knowledge. Thank you, Islam.

Forget the uncle, this girl should go and live with Pat Condell!

Saudi Instructional Video - How wives should be disciplined

chingalera says...

Damn Buck, that just about covers it-I'm Pat Condell, and I'd like to buy you a few pints and some virgins!

Srsly, what you hate about Islam and Muslims-at-large lies in the root developmental-disability: Something so hard-wired into a culture it would take several generations to correct or, as I have mentioned before, a collective world-wide experience that flips the paradigm on it's head.

An alien invasion or worldwide catastrophe would go a long way towards sobering us monkeys the fuck, RIGHT up! (world shakes fist at sky with one tongue, "Fuuuuck yewwwwwww, Gaaaaawd!")


Besides Buck and myself, I wonder how many people's first reaction when they heard what this guy had to spew was to want to take one of those sticks to his mealy, little mouth???

Man With Bloody Hands Tries To Justify Beheading of Soldier

chingalera says...

The gawking and do-nothing actions of bystanders....This shit would never happen here in the states, and especially not here in Texas-And who in the FUCK, besides an out-of-touch voyeur piece of shit, films this cunt after such an episode. Answer: A Programmed Briton

Bet if Pat Condell had been there things may have gone a bit differently....

Personally, I would have procured a piece of pipe and commenced to beating this out-of-touch thug senseless until the "constabulary" arrived. Problem is, the CO19 Force Firearms Unit would probably kill me for having done so, or place me on some undesirables list until I was finally out of the general population. Fuck all, Britains' turned to a complete shit hole and you have the absence of firearms in the hands of her citizenry and the cunts who made it so to blame.

Some Grey Bloke on YouTube Atheists

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Atheism

Hello, Saudi Arabia!

kulpims says...

no offense taken. true, pat condell has some weird views I completely disagree with but ... the message of this video cannot be ignored: religion fucks up everything if people let it and sharia law is fucking retarded

Pat Condell: Israel and the United Nations

enoch says...

nice....
so to anybody who sees the palestinian/isreali situation different from pat condell... you are an idiot.
his crtiticsim of the untied nations and other islamic countries aside,might i suggest mr condell read a book and not base his assumptions on his hatred of islam.

because this rant was chock full of ignorance.
here is a phrase mr condell should look up:balfour declaration (amended sept 11th 1921).
maybe he should start from there.

i usually enjoy his rants but sometimes he does tend to wade in to tin foil waters.

Pat Condell - What I know about Islam

Pat Condell - What I know about Islam

Pat Condell - No mosque at Ground Zero

The Gathering Storm in Europe

A10anis jokingly says...

>> ^EMPIRE:

>> ^A10anis:
>> ^EMPIRE:
I only needed to hear him compare the EU with Soviet Union to stop watching the video. I'm sure, as it's his usual, the future is bleak, we're all going to die, and everything will end in WW3, etc.
Pat Condell is annoying.

So, you don't listen to any opinion past the point where you don't agree? It appears to follow, then, that you only listen to those with an opinion to which you concur. That's not particularly enlightened or open-minded thinking! You remind me of the religious who, confronted with things THEY do not wish to hear, stick their fingers in their ears and go; "Blah, Blah, Blah." Try listening to the video in full, then make an educated assessment of it.

oh, so when someone starts making a point, by saying something completely imbecile you think they may still have a point? You must waste a lot of time in your life.

Im sorry, i read the first two words of your response, and didn't bother finishing.

The Gathering Storm in Europe

EMPIRE says...

>> ^A10anis:

>> ^EMPIRE:
I only needed to hear him compare the EU with Soviet Union to stop watching the video. I'm sure, as it's his usual, the future is bleak, we're all going to die, and everything will end in WW3, etc.
Pat Condell is annoying.

So, you don't listen to any opinion past the point where you don't agree? It appears to follow, then, that you only listen to those with an opinion to which you concur. That's not particularly enlightened or open-minded thinking! You remind me of the religious who, confronted with things THEY do not wish to hear, stick their fingers in their ears and go; "Blah, Blah, Blah." Try listening to the video in full, then make an educated assessment of it.


oh, so when someone starts making a point, by saying something completely imbecile you think they may still have a point? You must waste a lot of time in your life.



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