yeah i dont think this should make it. if you are showing this as a social commentary rather than entertainment then well.... but even still, to even recognize what these kids did by exploiting peoples sicknesses and misfortunes while displaying an obvious disdain for an entire social class seems frighteningly like something nazis would do to jews for laughs.

the lack of compassion which is required to treat humans as animals is the same lack of compassion that allows ethnic cleansing and genocide to occur. seriously; the nazis, the Rawandan government in 1994, and the ottoman empire used propaganda designed to strip the jews, tutsis and armenians of their humanity, in order to be able to systematically murder them in the millions with the complacency of the rest of the populations.

so at the very least, no upvote from me. in my opinion, i think you should remove this or atleast explain your reason for posting this to avoid fellow sifters thinking less of you.

Man, all drummers should feel silly lugging around their kits from gig to gig, when all they need is an ottoman (though I believe a leather bar stool has superior timbre.)

Tags for this video have been changed from 'Phil, Collins, Chester, Thompson, Drummer' to 'Phil, Collins, Chester, Thompson, Drummer, furniture, ottoman' - edited by kronosposeidon

http://www.videosift.com/video/5-Dudes-Try-To-Impress-the-Ladies-by-Gangbanging-An-Ottoman

^This is Zifnab's favorite part of the Zifnab-Yhatzee collective...

Do not fear the reaper...

In reply to this comment by calvados:
Thanks MCH!

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*promote

Thanks MCH!

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*promote

Seems he just misspoke there, he's correct on the rest.

Also don't make Turks angry, remember the Ottoman Empire? Yeah.

Thanks for the heads up.

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dupe: http://www.videosift.com/video/5-Dudes-Try-To-Impress-the-Ladies-by-Gangbanging-An-Ottoman

dupe: http://www.videosift.com/video/5-Dudes-Try-To-Impress-the-Ladies-by-Gangbanging-An-Ottoman

I would say this definitely involves *worldaffairs, and economics is a social *science. And the *spookymusic made the information even scarier.

Great video, flavioribeiro. I've known for a while that Americans (and I'm one of them) are living in a declining empire. No military or economic superpower can remain that way forever. Just ask the Egyptians, Persians, Romans, Byzantines, Mongols, Mughals, Ottomans, British, Russians, Klingons.....

@snoozedoctor & arsenault (if you really care to learn why sending missionaries to Iraq stirs up so much trouble)

While I think you have made a somewhat valid point... I ask you not to forget that our great and wonderful nation of 'free-peoples' was only gained via the slaughter and removal of an indigenous population. The rationale for this removal often was that it was completely legit due to the fact that Native Americans were 'heathens' and 'pagans' and therefore not children of God blessed with all the divine rights that the good people of America were inherently imbued with... and don't forget our 'Manifest Destiny, which was essentially God's will that America stretch from coast to coast and become the leading power in this hemisphere. Historically, American armies may not have been have entered battle under the banner of a crucifix, but the justifications for their deployment have often been laced with the rhetoric of spreading 'Christian values' and thereby civilizing the heathen peoples of the world... so, even though this country is not technically a 'theocracy', which is a nation governed by a religious body who forcibly imposes one faith upon all of its citizens (which the Ottoman empire was NOT, by the way- political and ruling powers lay in the hands of the Sultan and his heirs, the Caliphate only established to give their dynasty legitimacy, and by and large the Empire was comprised of peoples of MANY faiths- it was no more a theocracy than was the Holy Roman Empire, or any of the Medieval European States, in fact, in a lot of ways, it was probably much less of one. That corsairs or an envoy operating under its aegis chose to justify their actions by using the Koran is no different than the thousands of other actions carried out by European kings, and conquistadors who chose the Bible as their umbrella), the justifications for the actions of the American military have in the past often been aligned with 'Christian' motivations or agendas (once again, see the conquest and 'taming' of North America)... and given the discourse in American politics today, I think it is hard to deny that there is a great portion of this population that would very much like to see it formally defined as a 'Christian Nation', with Bibles in the classroom and Commandments at the Court House, so the perception abroad that Iraq is a 'Christian War' is not unsurprising, its like to spring up anytime a predominantly Christian country sets foot in the Middle East.

But back to history and the motivations of international shenanigans of the more recent past.... Its not only America that is guilty of working in tandem with the motivations of religious institutions and their rhetoric... throughout the Golden Age of Imperialism foreign missionaries more often than not preceded the armies of Western nations throughout Africa, Asia and the Pacific, establishing churches and converting portions of the population. Attacks on these outposts of Western thought and culture would often then be used as an excuse for a Western nation to move in and establish a military presence before moving on to full blown colonization (see the French takeover of Indochina/Vietnam if you don't believe me).

In regards to this situation then that pattern is important to keep in mind, because I think it helps explain some of the anger that is being raised by missionary activities in the region. Given the prevailing attitude against Western influence in Iraq and other Middle Eastern countries (due mostly to the experience of having been subjugated by Western Imperialist powers in the past), it should not be so surprising that these FOREIGN AMERICAN missionaries would be viewed by Iraqis as a threat to the sovereign identity they are trying to create for themselves. It is not that the Iraqis who might strike out at these people are doing so entirely because they are averse to Christianity, after all, there has been a long standing population of Chaldean Christians within Iraq that has gotten by just fine for centuries- it maybe hasn't been on top and they were pretty fairly discriminated against under Saddam but they certainly have never been outrightly persecuted for not being Muslim. Even today, despite all the turmoil in the country, those who have remained are pretty much just hanging in there and riding things out while the various Muslim factions around them blow one another up.

So, a large component of the problem is that many Iraqis ultimately feel that they are being 'invaded' by Imperialist Western influence, on many fronts, militarily, politically, and via these missionaries, religiously. So, therefore, this conflict of interest goes beyond simply just religion and it is important, I think, that Christians (missionaries and otherwise) realize this, the situation is not just Christian vs. Muslim- Iraqi Muslims are not just angry or striking out because the people of Jesus have dared tread on their sand to convert their neighbors. There are many many other factors involved in this that explain why they would not want missionaries from America to be active within their country... especially at a sensitive moment in history such as this.

I'm kinda glad this unseated the Ottoman Gangbang Five as my top vid.

I noticed that down the bottom under related videos is a documentary on the Armenian genocide. I was all WTF until I realized Siftbot was confused by "ottoman", then lolz.

Nuff respect for the Armenians tho

I'm in the Canadian reserves, infantry, almost 10 years at this point. I didn't know if you'd picked up on that.

And the ottoman? Comedy gold!

In reply to this comment by MarineGunrock:

The way it was worded sounded like you were going in the Army or something.
And your "5 dudes try to impress the ladies by humping an ottoman" video....priceless. I'm promoting that ASAP.

In reply to this comment by calvados:
Well neither of us have yet, have we? Only might!

In reply to this comment by MarineGunrock:
Potential?

In reply to this comment by calvados:
And thank you for your story, MG, from a fellow (potential) bullet-catcher.

The way it was worded sounded like you were going in the Army or something.
And your "5 dudes try to impress the ladies by humping an ottoman" video....priceless. I'm promoting that ASAP.

In reply to this comment by calvados:
Well neither of us have yet, have we? Only might!

In reply to this comment by MarineGunrock:
Potential?

In reply to this comment by calvados:
And thank you for your story, MG, from a fellow (potential) bullet-catcher.