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I'm just starting to get into post rock too. Thanks for the introduction paul4dirt and the recommendation RedSky. I discovered Helios through a VBS program. You should check them out if you haven't already. I like the album Eingya.

Oh, and if you want to see the nuclear test site in this video, enter these coordinates into google earth: 37N 116W.

Being stationed on a nuclear test site has it's perks, too...

>> ^cybrbeast:
beg for big beautiful boom

Published. Alliteration wins

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This is CG.
There hasn't been an above-ground nuclear test since 16th of October, 1980 conducted in China.

>> ^Irishman:
>> ^NetRunner:
Your definition of neocon is about as accurate as me calling Ron Paul an anarchist. They have a couple things they agree on, but they're definitely not one and the same. Pure flamebait, frankly.
Who do you think we should hand Iraq over to?

A couple of things they agree on. Like policy, and policy.
Obama is flying around the planet making speeches about fighting extremism, Iranian nukes, terrorists hiding in caves plotting to take over America, this is the same exact stuff we've had for 20 years now.
What is wrong with people's heads who can't see this. It's plain daylight stuff folks, the stuff Obama has been saying should really be scaring the shit out of people.
Wrong president America, wrong president. Europe and the rest of the world will NEVER forgive America for electing this man.


MrFisk actually preemptively gave much of my answer, which is that neocons and Democrats are in absolute opposition on domestic policy.

With foreign policy, Neocons are now in favor of a form of imperialism -- drum up casus belli, invade, substitute the old government with a new friendly one, and incidentally get some sort of contract to a material resource (like oil). That's why we invaded Iraq for WMDs that weren't there, while North Korea's nuclear test was met with mere diplomacy. It's why the same gambit is being run in Iran.

Obama just wants us to focus on just fighting to keep the Taliban from re-taking Afghanistan, and working with Pakistan to root out the Al Qaeda camps. Every other foreign policy issue out there, he wants to use diplomacy to solve, though he says he won't shy away from the use of military if necessary (to avoid appearing weak before the ravenous American populace).

As jwray said, all Obama does here is acknowledge that there is some threat, and in fact this is actually a clip of the very speech where he got attacked by McCain for downplaying Iran's threat, because he said it was less threatening than the Soviet Union.

McCain sings "Bomb, bomb, bomb Iran", makes a joke about killing Iranians with cigarettes, and clearly says there will be more wars.

As much as I wish third party candidates had a shot of being President, they simply do not. One of these two will be President.

Between the two, which worries Europe more, the candidate who occasionally talks about potential threats against a backdrop of talking about the need for diplomacy, or the one who cavalierly uses the language of fear every time a camera is stuck in his face, and attacks his opponent for wanting to talk to the leaders of other nations?

I think Europe will be able to forgive us for electing Obama over McCain.

If you're hoping for Cynthia McKinney, Ralph Nader, Bob Barr, or even Ron Paul, as much as I wish they had a fair chance of winning, they simply will not.

They are only small nuclear bombs, so I doubt the viewing distance is hundreds of miles. Many people looked at the nuclear tests of history from much closer ranges. Goggles are probably advised. The launch pad would also be made from metal to greatly reduce nuclear fallout and special nuclear bombs would reduce fallout even more. Most nuclear fallout comes from the irradiated earth that spews out from a nuclear blast.
This project is one of the only feasible current options of reaching other stars. It can reach 0.1c meaning a trip of slightly more than 40 years to our nearest star.

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>> ^videosiftbannedme:
I'm going to guess this was at the Nevada Test Site. Man, that must have been a sight to see in real life. That being said, I'm glad I wasn't there (and hopefully never actually see it either...)


Actually this looks like it was filmed in New Mexico, about a 30 minute drive up 54 from El Paso Texas. I was stationed in El Paso for a few years and have been in this area several times. Its called McGregor Base camp, and another 30-45 minutes from there a place called Oro Grande, where I know for a fact that the US used to station troops during nuclear tests. I say New Mexico, because the opening scene of the convoy driving down the long road with the mountains in the back looks strikingly familiar. That long road is what goes from 54 to McGregor, and that skyline looks very close to what I remember. Of course I could be wrong.

The video doesn't actually show dead bodies, it just shows the explosion. Similar videos of nuclear tests have been deemed "not snuff".

Here's the official lyrics, but in that great folk tradition, they've been updated and changed to fit the times:

It may have been Camelot for Jack and Jacqueline
But on the Che Guevara highway filling up with gasoline
Fidel Castro's brother spies a rich lady who's crying
Over luxury's disappointment
So he walks over and he's trying
To sympathise with her but he thinks that he should warn her
That the Third World is just around the corner

In the Soviet Union a scientist is blinded
By the resumption of nuclear testing and he is reminded
That Dr Robert Oppenheimer's optimism fell
At the first hurdle

In the Cheese Pavilion and the only noise I hear
Is the sound of someone stacking chairs
And mopping up spilt beer
And someone asking questions and basking in the light
Of the fifteen fame filled minutes of the fanzine writer

Mixing Pop and Politics he asks me what the use is
I offer him embarrassment and my usual excuses
While looking down the corridor
Out to where the van is waiting
I'm looking for the Great Leap Forwards

Jumble sales are organised and pamphlets have been posted
Even after closing time there's still parties to be hosted
You can be active with the activists
Or sleep in with the sleepers
While you're waiting for the Great Leap Forwards

One leap forward, two leaps back
Will politics get me the sack?

here comes the future and you can't run from it
If you've got a blacklist I want to be on it

It's a mighty long way down rock 'n roll
From Top of the Pops to drawing the dole

If no one out there understands
Start your own revolution and cut out the middleman

In a perfect world we'd all sing in tune
But this is reality so give me some room

So join the struggle while you may
The Revolution is just a T-shirt away
Waiting for the Great Leap Forwards

I put it in this collective primarily for the images used in this video.

It features the band performing in the desert, while reflecting on a variety of social issues including stem cell research, pollution, global warming, racism, Nazism, famine, wars, deforestation, drug addiction, obesity, destruction, and other crimes committed by humanity. The video also features short views of important historical figures, such as Mother Teresa, Buddha, Fidel Castro and Mahatma Gandhi.

Notable clips from the video
Adolf Hitler
Auschwitz concentration camp
Buddha
Benito Mussolini
Citizens of the world's least developed countries.
Fidel Castro
Josef Stalin
Ku Klux Klan
Lincoln Memorial
Civil Rights Demonstration in Birmingham, Alabama
Mother Teresa
Mahatma Gandhi
Mao Zedong
Nuclear testing
Pollution and global warming clips
The Egyptian Pyramids
Saddam Hussein
Sultan Ahmed Mosque
The Vitruvian Man
The September 11 terror attacks
John F. Kennedy

Don't forget about the Scientology symbol in NM and the craters from nuclear tests at the test site in Nevada.

Great music, awesome clips.
I can recommend Trinity and Beyond, a documentary about the nuclear tests.