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ponceleon (Member Profile)

Two Thousand and Fifty Four Nuclear Explosions (1945-1998)

kronosposeidon says...

I don't know exactly how bad it would be. No one really does. But no one doubts that a major nuclear exchange would cause large scale human suffering, the likes of which humanity probably has never seen before. I don't know if it would be bad enough to doom the human species. I suppose that depends on the severity of the nuclear war. Lots of ifs involved. >> ^raverman:

Absolutely - No doubt it would be bad...
But objectively how bad? Total Extinction? A 'fallout' world? 90 years uninhabitable with the only survivors living under ground? Or maybe that's the media making the story extra scary. Possibly the Western US has lived with intermittent fallout from tests for years depending on wind direction.
Remembering most of the world population lives in India and China... e.g. A nuclear exchange between India and Pakistan may actually kill more people than an exchange between the US and say Russia.

>> ^kronosposeidon:
No one knows exactly how bad it would be if a nuclear war took place, but there is no dispute that it would definitely be bad for both the Earth and mankind as a whole if a major exchange of nuclear weapons took place.


Two Thousand and Fifty Four Nuclear Explosions (1945-1998)

kronosposeidon says...

Those were actual nuclear explosions, both in Hattiesburg, Mississippi. They were both underground detonations. I found this: Nuclear Tests In Mississippi? The Consequences of Corporate Controlled Media (it even includes one functioning YouTube video, if someone wants to post it). I too knew none of this, not at all, until I googled it.

I could only find these scant mentions in Wikipedia (though I admit, I didn't dig very deeply):

- Vela Uniform/Project Dribble Nuclear Tests
- Vela Uniform>> ^jimnms:

Are these nuclear weapon tests or or does it include nuclear reactor tests as well? At the end when it overlaid all the tests there was one somewhere around Louisiana or Mississippi, and I don't recall a nuclear weapon test in that area.

Two Thousand and Fifty Four Nuclear Explosions (1945-1998)

raverman says...

Absolutely - No doubt it would be bad...

But objectively how bad? Total Extinction? A 'fallout' world? 90 years uninhabitable with the only survivors living under ground? Or maybe that's the media making the story extra scary. Possibly the Western US has lived with intermittent fallout from tests for years depending on wind direction.

Remembering most of the world population lives in India and China... e.g. A nuclear exchange between India and Pakistan may actually kill more people than an exchange between the US and say Russia.


>> ^kronosposeidon:

No one knows exactly how bad it would be if a nuclear war took place, but there is no dispute that it would definitely be bad for both the Earth and mankind as a whole if a major exchange of nuclear weapons took place.

Two Thousand and Fifty Four Nuclear Explosions (1945-1998)

Xax says...

>> ^Mashiki:

>> ^Xax:
1. Holy shit! I wouldn't have guessed the count to have been 10% of that.
2. How have we not destroyed ourselves completely over the last 70 years?
3. Remind me to take radiation meds before I ever visit the U.S. west coast.

1)You're looking at a couple of things. Power projection of devices, the others fall into research, refinement and higher yield.
2)MAD
3)Why? You're more likely to have more issues from Chernobyl then you will from weapons tests. From tritium leaks, or even the sun.


1. What?
2. Huh?
3. I thought it was obvious I was joking; my bad.

Two Thousand and Fifty Four Nuclear Explosions (1945-1998)

Mashiki says...

>> ^Xax:

1. Holy shit! I wouldn't have guessed the count to have been 10% of that.
2. How have we not destroyed ourselves completely over the last 70 years?
3. Remind me to take radiation meds before I ever visit the U.S. west coast.


1)You're looking at a couple of things. Power projection of devices, the others fall into research, refinement and higher yield.
2)MAD
3)Why? You're more likely to have more issues from Chernobyl then you will from weapons tests. From tritium leaks, or even the sun.

Two Thousand and Fifty Four Nuclear Explosions (1945-1998)

rougy says...

>> ^raverman:
If thousands of nukes over 50 years didnt cause the end of the world... would a nuclear war be as bad as they said?


That is one of the most frightening opinions I have ever read in my life.

Two Thousand and Fifty Four Nuclear Explosions (1945-1998)

kronosposeidon (Member Profile)

Crake (Member Profile)

Two Thousand and Fifty Four Nuclear Explosions (1945-1998)

kronosposeidon says...

Yes, it would be as bad as they say. Consider one nuke could wipe out an entire city like New York in a flash. That's 8.3 million deaths just inside NYC itself. Now consider that both the US and USSR each had thousands of nukes. Even if only a fraction of them had been used, untold millions, perhaps billions, of lives would have ended, either from the blasts themselves, or radiation sickness, or cancer-related deaths, etc. Plus all the soot and smoke swept up into the atmosphere from the major fires raging all over the planet could cause temporary climate change by reducing the Earth's temperature because of the partially blocked sunlight.

No one knows exactly how bad it would be if a nuclear war took place, but there is no dispute that it would definitely be bad for both the Earth and mankind as a whole if a major exchange of nuclear weapons took place. >> ^raverman:

LoL during the cold war everyone was afraid of the US and USSR nuking each other... all the while the US and USSR are actually nuking the crap out of THEMSELVES hundreds of times over.
If thousands of nukes over 50 years didnt cause the end of the world... would a nuclear war be as bad as they said?

Two Thousand and Fifty Four Nuclear Explosions (1945-1998)

Two Thousand and Fifty Four Nuclear Explosions (1945-1998)

honkeytonk73 says...

... and Iran is supposedly a threat ... the complaint coming from the nation with the greatest number of nuclear tests, and the only nation on the planet to actually use it against a civilian population resulting in mass casualties.

Two Thousand and Fifty Four Nuclear Explosions (1945-1998)

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