Canadian (white - maybe important to mention these days sadly) here. I visited a friend in New Hampshire a few years ago.
After arriving and unpacking, friend (who has lived there in that neighborhood all her life) takes me on a tour of the small neighborhood. Walking down the street, within 15 minutes, a man comes out of his house pointing a rifle at me demanding to know "who the fuck" I am and "what the fuck" I am doing there. They don't get many new people in the area I guess. Turns out this person was known as "Crazy Larry" in the area, an ex police officer and known to have mental problems. He still has his license to carry for firearms, despite complaints, and to do whatever the hell he wants to do with them on his property.

FWIW, I actually agree with a lot of what the Pro Gun guy said. There has to be a line drawn somewhere though.


tdlr: within 15 mins of a New Hampshire town walking tour on public ground, gun pointed at me and threatened by a person with known mental problems and valid license demanding to know why I was there. Line needs to be drawn.

Vermont and New Hampshire have been on a spree lately. Today I live in Massachusetts, but I am thinking to move there any day now because of their recent legislation.

" I just quoted you claiming that Napolitano believes that the Lincoln pursued the war to restore the union, when that's exactly what he's not saying here."

Where did you quote me? I missed that.

I am not "attacking" the "comedians." I quoted/"plagiarised" Thomas DiLorenzo who pointed out "[Jon Stewart's] "hit" was about how the Judge wrote in one of his publications that the U.S. probably could have ended slavery the same way that New York, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, Maine, New Jersey, Illinois, Pennsylvania, and all the other Northern states did, as well as the British empire, Spanish empire, the French, Danes, Dutch, Swedes, and others during the nineteenth century did: namely, peacefully. . . . " and that Stewart (in his inimitable wisdom as an historical scholar) was wrong in his assertion that war was the way to go.

And, whatever Lincoln's reasons were for going to war, of course there are always options other than imperialism (despite what manifest destiny might have you believe). Same as Truman having options other than nuking Japan. Or Bush the second having options other than invading Iraq and Afghanistan.

Whatever Lincoln's "reasons" were for going to war and thereby leading to the slaughter of 620,000 people and the maiming/disfigurement of over 800,000+ others, these reasons are not the same as what his options were, and the white washing of history does not change this very basic fact.

Hmm, so Stewart and Wilmore seem to be saying that the U.S. couldn't have ended slavery in the same way that New York, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, Maine, New Jersey, Illinois, Pennsylvania, and all of the other Northern states did (not to mention the British empire, the Spanish empire, the French, the Danes, the Dutch, the Swedes, and many many others during the nineteenth century), namely, peacefully. (For reference, see Jim Powell's Greatest Emancipations: How the West Ended Slavery; and Joanne Pope Melish's Disowning Slavery: Gradual Emancipation and Race in New England, 1780-1860).

Rather, Stewart and Wilmore seem to be saying that 750,000 dead Americans (and even more than double that number maimed for life), to say nothing of the total destruction of the voluntary union of the founders, was in fact the only way to end slavery. Southerners (only six percent of whom actually owned slaves) were, according to Stewart and Wilmore, "willing to die to preserve slavery" and so, therefore, the Great Oz (er, I mean, The Great Abe) did what was necessary...

So says this renowned historical sage, Jon Stewart, and his cast of clowns...

@Velocity5

If I was to advocate voting as a strategy, I'd probably take a look at the Tenth Amendment Center (linked above). Vote on local elections for candidates that will 'nullify' regulations imposed from above, like counties ignoring/countering state laws and states ignoring/countering federal laws.

The Free State Project is actually about 'taking over' (so to speak) New Hampshire through the political process for such purposes. And I suspect that the initiative to break California into several states has similar goals.

Not necessarily, Raveeeeni-Sensible people with concealed carry (what you'd have to have to legally carry a pistol into a public place) would detain them at gunpoint, pistol-whip them maybe.

Even if you assaulted them without a gun you'd be in trouble with the law considering how retarded laws are concerning such matters.

...someone from Delaware or New Hampshire might start shooting though, if they could find the "on" button on their pistol.

Jan. 11 It was near the first of the episode too. Around 3:21 time index

>> ^notarobot:

I'd like to see what he has to say, do you know the episode date? Hulu is blocked outside the US.

One insight I gathered during the 2008 primaries is that according to the media, only "unexpected" results matter. Unexpected in that sentence of course means "something contrary to media conventional wisdom", not something actually unexpected.

So if Romney wins Iowa, it'll be reported as huge because he wasn't "expected" to win, even though his numbers have been fine in Iowa this time around.

If Santorum or Paul wins, it'll be a non-event because Iowa is "expected" to pick someone offbeat and unconventional.

That said, whoever winds up on top will get a flurry of intense media scrutiny until New Hampshire, for good or for ill.

If Romney wins Iowa, expect the media to offer him public blowjobs. If Paul wins, expect to hear lots about racist newsletters and crackpot theories about AIDS, and how New Hampshire will be the "real" start of the primary season.

>> ^MilkmanDan:

If all of the Mitt Romney challengers implode like this, might the Republican party and mainstream media stop forgetting about RON PAUL, ffs?

All Paul needs to do is win Iowa or New Hampshire, and the media will change their tune about him pretty quickly.

>> ^dystopianfuturetoday:

Corporatist idiots.


Speaking of corporatists, why is it he seems to get left out of the debate when the corporate media covers the primaries? Obama gets plenty of attention from the corporate media, and so do the neocons and dominionists from the GOP.

For example, this article just came out yesterday. Ron Paul polled in 2nd place, but the headline reads: "Poll: Romney leads New Hampshire, Huntsman in third, Perry in fourth". Looks like the big corporatists are afraid of Paul yet love them some Obama. They practically pitched Obama into the White House like a softball to the voter's.

Rank↓ State↓ 2009↓ 2008↓ 2007↓ 2004-2006↓
1 Maryland $79,272 $78,454 $78,725 $77,985
2 New Jersey $68,342 $70,378 $67,035 $64,169
3 Connecticut $67,034 $68,595 $65,967 $59,972
4 Alaska $66,953 $68,460 $64,333 $57,639
5 Hawaii $64,098 $67,214 $63,746 $60,681
6 Massachusetts $64,081 $65,401 $62,365 $56,236
7 New Hampshire $60,567 $63,731 $62,369 $60,489
8 Virginia $59,330 $61,233 $59,562 $55,108
District of Columbia $59,290 $57,936 $54,317 $47,221 (2005)[3]PDF
9 California $58,931 $61,021 $59,948 $53,770
10 Delaware $56,860 $57,989 $54,610 $52,214
11 Washington $56,548 $58,078 $55,591 $53,439
12 Minnesota $55,616 $57,288 $55,082 $57,363
13 Colorado $55,430 $56,993 $55,212 $54,039
14 Utah $55,117 $56,633 $55,109 $55,179
15 New York $54,659 $56,033 $53,514 $48,201
16 Rhode Island $54,119 $55,701 $53,568 $52,003
17 Illinois $53,966 $56,235 $54,124 $49,280
18 Nevada $53,341 $56,361 $55,062 $50,819
19 Wyoming $52,664 $53,207 $51,731 $47,227
20 Vermont $51,618 $52,104 $49,907 $51,622
United States $50,221 $52,029 $50,740 $46,242 (2005) [4]PDF
21 Wisconsin $49,993 $52,094 $50,578 $48,874
22 Pennsylvania $49,520 $50,713 $48,576 $47,791
23 Arizona $48,745 $50,958 $49,889 $46,729
24 Oregon $48,457 $50,169 $48,730 $45,485
25 Texas $48,259 $50,043 $47,548 $43,425
26 Iowa $48,044 $48,980 $47,292 $47,489
27 North Dakota $47,827 $45,685 $43,753 $43,753
28 Kansas $47,817 $50,177 $47,451 $44,264
29 Georgia $47,590 $50,861 $49,136 $46,841
30 Nebraska $47,357 $49,693 $47,085 $48,126
31 Maine $45,734 $46,581 $45,888 $45,040
32 Indiana $45,424 $47,966 $47,448 $44,806
33 Ohio $45,395 $47,988 $46,597 $45,837
34 Michigan $45,255 $48,591 $47,950 $47,064
35 Missouri $45,229 $46,867 $45,114 $44,651
36 South Dakota $45,043 $46,032 $43,424 $44,624
37 Idaho $44,926 $47,576 $46,253 $46,395
38 Florida $44,736 $47,778 $47,804 $44,448
39 North Carolina $43,674 $46,549 $44,670 $42,061
40 New Mexico $43,028 $43,508 $41,452 $40,827
41 Louisiana $42,492 $43,733 $40,926 $37,943
42 South Carolina $42,442 $44,625 $43,329 $40,822
43 Montana $42,322 $43,654 $43,531 $38,629
44 Tennessee $41,725 $43,614 $42,367 $40,676
45 Oklahoma $41,664 $42,822 $41,567 $40,001
46 Alabama $40,489 $42,666 $40,554 $38,473
47 Kentucky $40,072 $41,538 $40,267 $38,466
48 Arkansas $37,823 $38,815 $38,134 $37,420
49 West Virginia $37,435 $37,989 $37,060 $37,227
50 Mississippi $36,646 $37,790 $36,338 $35,261
Puerto Rico $17,500 $17,000

Are you biased

Of course. Everyone is biased. Only the news media runs around pretending that they are completely ‘unbiased’, and no one believes them anymore.

Paul Krugman…best summary

I have difficulty taking anyone seriously who holds up Paul Krugman as an example of accuracy and fairness. The man is left wing shill and has a long history of saying anything and everything to spin for his bias. In this case, he’s ignoring years and years of violent threats and hate speech from the left towards the right. His opinion on this matter is worthless.

deliberate misreading of John Kerry

Bill Maher: You could have went to New Hampshire and killed two birds with one stone.
Kerry: Or, I could have gone to 1600 Pennsylvania and killed the real bird with one stone.
How is that not creating a ‘toxic environment’?

I guess when a liberal says crap like that it is just innocent ha-ha funny, right? When someone like Beck does it, then it's 'evil, poisonous, right-wing extremist rhetoric', eh wot?

Even a casual breeze through the news media, the political world, and the blogosphere proves the left is just as guilty as the right of 'polluting the political environment with hateful images and rhetoric'. Spin away if it soothes your guilt, but the reality is plain and only those blinkered by their own bias can pretend otherwise. I don’t pretend that there isn’t some nasty rhetoric that comes from the right. Why does the left always try to pretend away their hate?

>> ^Winstonfield_Pennypacker:

...some white guy trying to get attention by falsely claiming he's a Republican or TP sympathizer.


Yeah, right. There are no racists in the GOP or the Tea Baggers.

It's all a liberal conspiracy.

Rush Limbaugh is a closet liberal. Glenn Beck is a closet liberal. That guy in New Hampshire who wants to keep the state white, he's a plant. Yeah.

More black is white and up is down from the board's local shylock.

Racist New Hampshire State House Candidate Advises Tea Party To Be More Open With Its Racism
http://thinkprogress.org/2010/07/19/racist-new-hampshire-candidate/

While the tea party movement is desperately trying to fight off charges of “racist elements” from the NAACP, Ryan J. Murdough, a Republican candidate for New Hampshire State House, has no qualms about expressing his views on race. “It is time for white people in New Hampshire and across the country to take a stand,” Murdough wrote in a letter to the Concord Monitor titled “We must preserve our racial identity”:

"For far too long white Americans have been told that diversity is something beneficial to their existence. Statistics prove that the opposite is true. New Hampshire residents must seek to preserve their racial identity if we want future generations to have to possibility to live in such a great state. Affirmative action, illegal and legal non-white immigration, anti-white public school systems, and an anti-white media have done much damage to the United States of America and especially New Hampshire. It is time for white people in New Hampshire and across the country to take a stand. We are only 8 percent of the world’s population and we need our own homeland, just like any other non-white group of people deserve their own homeland."

I thought this might be for the place near where I live. Portsmouth, England. In regular Hampshire, not new Hampshire T__T.