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Center fielder first position player to ever record a save

eric3579 says...

@moonsammy No, it's not the first time a non pitcher was on the mound when there team won. It's the first time a non pitcher was credited with a pitching "Save". His team had a two run lead when he entered the game as a pitcher. The previous pitcher was awarded the "Win".
http://m.mlb.com/glossary/standard-stats/save

There are plenty of position players who have recorded a win as a pitcher. You can find them among this list. https://www.baseball-reference.com/friv/fieldPitch.shtml

(edit) As a side note, first time since 1969 when the save stat was made official.

Drachen_Jager said:

Not just won, but went from either a negative or neutral position to win.

IE. if it's happened before, the team was already ahead when the non-pitcher took over in relief.

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Sulfur Mound Fire

bremnet says...

The usual recourse is water fog (vs water stream that just tends to raise more dust and spread more fire). If it's a large mound of extracted sulphur from e.g. sour gas fields, we used to just push more sulphur on top if the fire and that'd snuff it out.

CrushBug said:

Wow. What do you even do? Pour sand on it?

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tofucken-the vegan response to turducken

eoe says...

@newtboy: Just to be clear, I really appreciate your comments. It's nice to talk to an omnivore who doesn't just respond with "I'LL EAT TWICE AS MUCH MEAT AS YOU DO TO MAKE UP FOR YOUR VEGANISM!" I'm trying to be objective, and I appreciate your attempt as well.

That being said...

I respect the genuine care you give to your animals. I didn't know you or your family (or both) owned such a farm. It does sound like you do, truly, meet their needs as animals. However, (and I hate to bring out the really controversial stuff), I'm sure plenty of slave-owners treated their slaves with genuine humanity. But that doesn't excuse the categorical enslavement of other beings. Despite all care given to those animals, they are still not able to live their natural lives as animals on earth. I don't see why our subjugation, no matter how "humane", can be considered anything less than "inhumane".

Now, the comparison to "most children in the world" is a moot one. Yes, of course everywhere there are going to be worse things happening. But the point is that we are rational, (hopefully) decent, higher-order-understanding-of-the-universe beings. Humans seem to like to cherry-pick when their huge brain is an excuse for greatness, or ignored and "we're just animals after all". So, just because there is suffering outside the scope of our influence, we do all have the ability to stop eating meat. Pretty easily, in fact, since there are tons and tons and tons of other means to get all the nutrition we need (not to mention way, way healthier means).

The point is that we are completely and totally (especially as upper-middle class 1st-world citizens) capable of not eating meat this very moment. You can't, however, change the living conditions in the slums of India by yourself right now.

And explain to me how mentally handicapped humans are not animals. What is the distinction? They are both objectively less intelligent. If anything, animals are more capable of surviving on their own. What makes mentally handicapped people any more special than animals? Just because they're human? That seems arbitrary. True, they should be treated differently because they are different animals, but I mean why should one be treated to our moral consideration and one should not? What makes humans so damn special?

And that "sustenance" argument is really, really misguided. As said above, you can eat an entire vegan diet and be probably even more healthy than an omnivore. And animals are not minimally suffering. Yes, a very cherished, rare group, as your animals are, are "minimally suffering", but many, many, many, many more are being horribly abused for that sustenance that can be gained elsewhere (with suffering of its own, truly. I always hear the "well, there are people given slave wages to pick vegetables in California". But, you'll be eating those vegetables and fruits anyway. That's an entirely other battle that needs to be waged in other ways, not through lack of consumption).

My assumption was not that 100% of farmers treat their animals inhumanely. My assumption was that billions of animals are being treated inhumanely. And the way parents treat their children is a red herring. That's not my argument at all. And again, it's outside the realm of my influence.

And to counter your last argument... my same argument above follows for the "food chain/web" argument. Once and for all:

We are rational, amazing, smart, complex and powerful beings on this planet. We have it within our power (each of us) to not eat meat. This is "against nature". But so is basically OUR ENTIRE CIVILIZATION. What makes us truly different from animals is that exact ability. To step back and choose our actions. Are you saying humans not capable of choosing their actions -- those with so much in the 1st world countries? That we're all forced to, by nature, to eat meat? That is the cognitive dissonance I speak of. That we're so special because we are rational beings, but at the same time we must eat meat because we are not rational human beings.

This entire argument was not endorsed by PETA, because they're a bunch of assholes -- but despite being assholes one can't argue that they have brought about change. Change comes from all angles. Grassroots, insane radicals, scientists, humanitarians. They all try to bring change in different ways and succeed influencing different groups. PETA's brazenness is its power. Large corporations, like McDonald's, must respond to such a power. Despite being assholes. Both of them.

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I want to end on a note of humility -- that I admit to having that same cognitive dissonance when it comes to animals. As a cat owner, I often visualize the mound of turkey carcasses that both of my lovable kittens live on top of. And they truly are carnivores in that they cannot find sustenance outside of meat. How do I rationalize all the turkey deaths (my cats only exclusively eat turkey for some goddamn reason) just so I can have my lovable pets? I can't. And it kills me. Not sure if I'll get cats after they die.

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Thanks for reading. That was a lot.

newtboy said:

I'm sorry, you're wrong.
Not all farms treat their animals badly. Our Turkeys, for instance, had the run of 300 acres, as did our cattle, goats, and sheep. The chickens had a pen for their own protection, but one larger than an average house with a large roost house they had free access to and from. The all had proper veterinary treatments. All in all, they had a much better life than many humans with the exception of the freedom to leave the property.
Most children in the world live in worse conditions than the animals at OUR farm, and have a MUCH more painful, lingering death. The only atrocity about the situation to me is that there are so damn many human children.
And mentally handicapped people aren't animals. It may be true, forcing naked, mentally handicapped (or non-mentally handicapped) children to be outside 24/7 might be considered abuse...doing so with an animal is not.
Beyond that, you are making HUGE mistaken assumptions to make your point, mistaken assumptions about 1) how 100% of farmers treat their animals and 2) how 100% of parents treat their children.

Ahh...and my sustenance is more important to me than another being's minimal suffering....that's how a food web works, and it doesn't make me an asshole, it makes me an omnivore.

Sportscaster responds to racism and hate

Babymech says...

Of course you stand by your statement, because you it is what you really want to believe, and you are too lazy / ignorant / arrogant, to assume that anyone who disagrees is telling the truth or doing their jobs properly. Which the news are. Which the school is (belatedly). Etc.

"Lewisville Independent School District (ISD) interim superintendent Kevin Rogers announced that their week-long investigation into the February 13 sign incident was conducted through a variety of means. Those included witness interviews, including Flower Mound High School (FMHS) and Lewisville ISD administrators, staff, students and spectators; an in-depth review of surveillance and game footage; social media research; and cooperative, continued communication between FMHS and Plano-East Senior High School (PESH) administrators."

bobknight33 said:

The story showed no overt racism. Only a photo snapped at the right time. What were the other words? Where are the interviews from the event? Actual eye witness? Nowhere is there actual eye witness to this story. 1 photo and a raciest story created by the news to stir the pot

If this event did actually have racist activities than yes beat the fuck out of the guys involved. But the news story did not present any facts.

I stand with what I said earlier..


People see racism even when its not there. The left are masters at it.

Sportscaster responds to racism and hate

Januari says...

As someone who is ashamed to say that is the high school i graduated from last year, as well as participated in sports i can tell you two things for certain.

The chant Hanson mentions is extremely common place (It was never one we lead them in but wasn't uncommon for the fans to chant). And Flower Mound i suspect is one of the most white-washed communities you could find anywhere. This sort of casual and very cowardly racism , sadly i can't even say surprises me.

These are the same losers who would absolutely wet themselves if they were confronted by a person of color.

bobknight33 said:

People see racism even when its not there. The left are masters at it.

How fracking works

BoneRemake says...

I have first hand knowledge of oil well drilling and completion, This video depicts the processes used in fracking and you "hippies" are just ganging on a video to shout on your mounds sound bite tripe. The poster seems to have posted it for informative purposes and then you rats come and jump on board. Your informed and honest opinions are misplaced on a good video, downvotes for it are in the range of retarded.

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Great Dane Puppy Does Not Want To Get Up Too Early

Chaucer says...

i'm sure they want to take it outside to shit. I've had a rottweiler shit in the house before and it was a huge mound of poo.

Lansing Lugnuts Pitcher Daniel Norris saves face (Literally!

Congratulations to Pumkinandstorm on reaching Galaxy! (Sift Talk Post)

ant says...

@dag Please kindly post the lyrics in texts too! Hey, that's a cheetah on a termite mound. Not an ant hill! Failed!

Also, Pumpkin and Storm are her cats that she told me recently. She's an imposter of being kitties on here and other places online. I have proofs!



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