>> ^jwray:
I think he was referring to the indefinite future. Of course this probably isn't the last war the US will ever be involved in. History has never seen centuries of total peace.

Centuries??? Ha! I'd be happy if the US could go more than 5 years without an offensive military deployment. It hasn't since I've been alive.

Stop the presses! We have discovered a perpetual motion machine of the first kind!!!

Unlimited energy! No more wars for oil! Free electricity!

Downside:
No more milkshakes and only dry muesli for breakfast...

In highschool, I had a very pretentious, very full-of-herself teacher who once opined to us that if there were no more guns, if they somehow vanished never to return, there would be no more wars. I reminded her about swords and all the killing that had happened in the millennia prior to firearms, and that to think people couldn't return to killing each other wholesale hand-to-hand was a pipe dream. She didn't like that.

Conflict is part of human nature; therefore violence is unfortunately part of human nature, between individuals and between groups. Evil does not exist simply due to the existence of modern weaponry, which is exactly what buddy just said in the video. To paraphrase Albert Einstein, so long as there are humans, there will be wars.

Typical U.S. Government bull shit. Tax me, give it to corporations and spend it on military. More war more money for the rich. civilians die by the thousands.

No am not a progressive, I don't believe we should be entirely laissez-faire with regards to our economy and people, nor do I believe that social assistance programs that were part of American way of life since the New Deal should be annexed. You can't have a totally capitalist society nor a totally socialist society in the US, it wouldn't work.

I didn't post this video to give support to Mr Moyer's organization or anything like that, I believe that what he says encapsulates everything I feel is wrong about the current political climate, we have a conservative base that is quickly losing it's ground by having a simple vast hate of the left but no real plan of action other then war war and more war. We have a democratic left side that is too willingly to wait till 2008 and then come into office like some sort of messiah of hope. All while more troops are sent into Iraq and Afghanistan...

Democracy is built on mutual discourse and exchange of ideas, policy action should come from the same area. I believe it's important for citizens to know all viewpoints offered to let people reach their own conclusions. Simply painting someone as a crazy liberal by quoting DiscoverTheNetworks, well that doesn't really help anything especially since they have a anti-left stance. I could bring something from MoveOn.org about their practices.

And I think that progressive statement you made is funny. I would rather have all that then have a goverment that feels that it can trample over the constitution in order to implement policies to watch it's own citizens and or remove attorney generals based on their political affiliations...

Applause to both swampgirl and farhad. Wish I'd been the one to say what you two have said.

I know a woman who has a view on war and the military that is so simplistic as to boggle the mind -- on the big example of WW2, say, she states that the Allies were no better than the Axis because both sides killed. I know another woman who, watching footage of that same struggle, said "tsk, such a waste", and not surprisingly had no retort when I asked whether she thought it would've been better not to have fought back against the Nazis, which is the only way anyone could have avoided that war's "wastefulness" once Hitler's armies were on the march. As long as there are humans, there will be violence between them, and as long as there are nations there will be more wars -- there can be intervals of peace but eventually there will be more wars. That's the deal.

The use of force should be a last resort, but there are times when it is a necessary evil. It may always be possible to refuse to be violent, but sometimes it is wrong to make that refusal. To take WW2 once again, the US, for example, would have been wrong not to join that fight, even though they could have walled themselves off in North America and been safe without ever going to war. They could have stayed home, not gone to war, not killed a whole lot of Nazis, and they would have been in the wrong. Fighting, once in a great while, can be an act of conscience, and the world we live in is that complex -- much too complex to be neatly sorted out with supersimple black-and-white thinking.

I was in high school in Kuwait when 9/11 happened and am sad to say that most of what you will see in this video directly reflects what the majority said of the attacks, because just like media in the west is slanted, whole communities in the middle east suffer from imposition of views on the public as whole. Most people you talk to though don't want more war, they seek to end it, is just that there are forces that want to instigate a holy war. This is because shifting public focus on a Bablyonian state in the west guarentees that those in power stay in power, blame is shifted on a nation that is doing better but yet talking to individuals you learn of their love for hollywood, of western music and culture and most yearn to go there for a chance economic prosperity. This slanted view is there because education is so low. People just don't get enough information, though this is changing quickly as internet, satelliate and other media penetrate into these countries. However there is a distinct problem when the livelyhoods of many people start depending on many western companies, or feel that the west is actively dumping goods. There is a economic and sociological problem created through the low levels of education and information distribution. Because those who are educated almost always escape to the west. Some return to instigate change, though this is hard.

just for your interest: lyrics in english

Have you some time for me,
then I'll sing a song for you
about 99 balloons
on their way to the horizon.
If you're perhaps thinking about me right now
then I'll sing a song for you
about 99 balloons
and that such a thing comes from such a thing.

99 balloons
on their way to the horizon
People think they're UFO's from space
so a general sent up
a fighter squadron after them
Sound the alarm if it's so
but there on the horizon were
only 99 balloons.

99 fighter jets
Each one's a great warrior
Thought they were Captain Kirk
then came a lot of fireworks
the neighbors didn't understand anything
and felt like they were being provoked
so they shot at the horizon
at 99 balloons.

99 war ministers
matches and gasoline canisters
They thought they were clever people
already smelled a nice bounty
Called for war and wanted power.
Man, who would've thought
that things would someday go so far
because of 99 balloons.

99 years of war
left no room for victors.
There are no more war ministers
nor any jet fighters.
Today I'm making my rounds
see the world lying in ruins.
I found a balloon,
think of you and let it fly (away).

He claims that "beliefs" are the real problem. But isn't he just spouting his "beliefs" as well? I'm not religious by any means but I don't try to stop others from being so. I don't smoke but I detest all the laws and rules that tell me where and when I can smoke. I agree that more wars than we can count have been fought in the name of God but that doesn't mean all those that believe in such things are wrong or hateful. What is wrong with allowing someone to have his or her beleifs as long as they are kept to themselves? This guy would have you not believe in anything. If that's his thing then so be it but don't tell someone else they can't have their own. When we aren't allowed to do or believe what want, what is the point of living?