My sister fully believes that the 1969 Moon landings were faked. She believes that we did make it a few years after that but "no way did they do it in 1969. The technology wasn't there to make it possible."

Yeah, I know. But she's my sister and I still love her.

>> ^critical_d:

Odd how the scientific community seems to have more enthusiasm for exploring the oceans of Titan than our own. I read somewhere that the technological aspects of a dive like Cameron performed are as complex as a moon landing. I guess the thinking was that if something went wrong seven miles below then you are just as screwed as if you were in the Frau Mora Highlands. If the ultimate goal is to setup a colony on Mars or our own Moon, then we should practice in our own backyard first.


Not to mention his submersible has to hold back 1100 atmospheres of force, and out in orbit, the space station only has to hold in 1 atmosphere of force.

>> ^surfingyt:

Perhaps some scientists feel if they can find life on another planet the final nail in religion's coffin will be hammered?>> ^critical_d:
Odd how the scientific community seems to have more enthusiasm for exploring the oceans of Titan than our own. I read somewhere that the technological aspects of a dive like Cameron performed are as complex as a moon landing. I guess the thinking was that if something went wrong seven miles below then you are just as screwed as if you were in the Frau Mora Highlands. If the ultimate goal is to setup a colony on Mars or our own Moon, then we should practice in our own backyard first.

The God of the Gaps can exist in any reality. @TheSluiceGate was right. The goalposts just get moved.

I love the way blondie was about to make some sort of comparison, "..the biggest scandal perpetrated on the American people...urmm, urmm....". I'm sure the word "since" was going to follow and I'd love to know what it was going to be. Was it 9/11 as an inside job, faked moon landings, Roswell, what?

>> ^surfingyt:

Perhaps some scientists feel if they can find life on another planet the final nail in religion's coffin will be hammered?>> ^critical_d:
Odd how the scientific community seems to have more enthusiasm for exploring the oceans of Titan than our own. I read somewhere that the technological aspects of a dive like Cameron performed are as complex as a moon landing. I guess the thinking was that if something went wrong seven miles below then you are just as screwed as if you were in the Frau Mora Highlands. If the ultimate goal is to setup a colony on Mars or our own Moon, then we should practice in our own backyard first.



What? Are you kidding? Even if scientists did confirm the existence of alien life the religious will just move the goalposts in the same way they did when the world was discovered to be round, and that the earth was not the centre of the solar system, or indeed the universe.

The Vatican's "Pontifical Academy of Sciences" has even held a conference on alien life:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/space/6536400/The-Vatican-joins-the-search-for-alien-life.html

For the deeply religious no scientific proof that contradicts their religious beliefs will ever be proof enough.

Perhaps some scientists feel if they can find life on another planet the final nail in religion's coffin will be hammered?>> ^critical_d:

Odd how the scientific community seems to have more enthusiasm for exploring the oceans of Titan than our own. I read somewhere that the technological aspects of a dive like Cameron performed are as complex as a moon landing. I guess the thinking was that if something went wrong seven miles below then you are just as screwed as if you were in the Frau Mora Highlands. If the ultimate goal is to setup a colony on Mars or our own Moon, then we should practice in our own backyard first.

>> ^critical_d:

Odd how the scientific community seems to have more enthusiasm for exploring the oceans of Titan than our own. I read somewhere that the technological aspects of a dive like Cameron performed are as complex as a moon landing. I guess the thinking was that if something went wrong seven miles below then you are just as screwed as if you were in the Frau Mora Highlands. If the ultimate goal is to setup a colony on Mars or our own Moon, then we should practice in our own backyard first.


Firstly you make the mistake of assuming that all scientists COULD be working on deep sea exploration. There wasn't a scientist working on it but then a bloke pulled him away and asked him to do space instead. Not all of them enjoy marine biology, not all of them work in the correct or an analogous field.

Secondly, there is always the argument AGAINST directed research. That is, most of our most amazing discoveries happened through studying something else and often enough by accident, so why would directed research be any better? The cosmic background radiation was discovered at bell laboratories and they thought it was due to pigeon shit at first. You may as well go back in time and tell einstein to stop pissing about with light and help solve real world problems like in-car navigation. Then suddenly 50 years down the line we have no state of the art GPS system because he didn't go into relativity.

Thirdly, exploring deep sea trenches is, i believe, an engineering problem rather than a theoretical problem. Why would a scientist need to stop working on discovering things to help to either build or generate money for something?

Fouthly, if you think there's interesting stuff in the tiny amount of water that exists on our planet, you should read up on space.

Finally, at least some of the software tools developed by computational astrophysicists have been used to solve earth-bound problems such as climate change and weather systems, so if you study something else you may end up killing two birds with one stone.

Why the hell would anyone rather look at the ocean which is right next to us over the deepest reaches of space anyway? But if we find the key to faster than light travel down there, i'll be looking sheepish

Odd how the scientific community seems to have more enthusiasm for exploring the oceans of Titan than our own. I read somewhere that the technological aspects of a dive like Cameron performed are as complex as a moon landing. I guess the thinking was that if something went wrong seven miles below then you are just as screwed as if you were in the Frau Mora Highlands. If the ultimate goal is to setup a colony on Mars or our own Moon, then we should practice in our own backyard first.

amusing that generations in the not so far future will look at this and just go "meh, crappy video quality". Just as we do with footage of the moon landings...

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>> ^Yogi:

>> ^Payback:
>> ^eric3579:
Mars Science Laboratory (Curiosity Rover) Mission Animation

Kinda worries me that the JPL people think there's sound in space...

Most of JPLs engineers were replaced by struggling CG artists.


Well once the Apollo "Moon Landing" was completed their entire cinematic department was looking for a gig.

Another example of NASA technology used in industry. The first green screens were how they faked the moon landing.

The sound is absolutely fake.

The center of the building was collapsing at that moment. The air pressure of the pancaking floors was obviously blowing windows out as the core came down.

Listen, I "want to believe" too. But, Big Foot...UFOs...Fake moon landings...the demolition of Building 7...these are all failed conspiracies, as are 99% of all conspiracies. Let it rest.

>> ^Yogi:

SOooo is there a way for me to NOT believe the entire "official" story but not believe crazy conspiracy theories as well? I think there is. I think that the reasons and the hows and whys the terrorists got into the country and hijacked plains is pathetic...what the hell do we have the FBI for anyways?
I think going from that to "conspiracy" is pathetic as well. It's like seeing an Unidentified Flying Object and immediately going "Aliens!" I refer you to Neil DeGrasse Tyson for all other questions...use your brain not your emotions.


Simply saying Bush was in bed with Bin Laden, or the CIA was in bed with him, but the towers went down due to the planes is still what I'd call sane. I think it's contrary to the evidence, but none the less it's not crazy.

What makes the truthers nuts instead of skeptics is not the belief that someone within America was involved, but that they used BOTH the planes and planted explosives.

I see it as the difference between denying the moon landings(crazy) to dismissing them as of no scientific value and a purely military/political stunt.

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