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The Paradox of an Infinite Universe

newtboy says...

There’s no paradox, there no such thing as “infinity” in reality.
Infinity is an unreal mathematical concept like “i” (imaginary numbers that are the square root of a negative number).
Useful in calculations but really it’s just a placeholder for our lack of understanding about how the universe works (or a simplistic lie to evade giving a difficult, long, and incomplete explanation) , it’s not something found in nature.

Why not a mobius toroid? …or maybe a multidimensional toroid that’s (somehow) a donut in every direction? …or maybe both at once? Have some imagination, physicists. Don’t limit yourself to only the dimensions you perceive or how you see them
Time/space could be something like this and we only perceive the point where all 3 axis converge….

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Lewis Black reads a new ex-Mormon's rant

newtboy says...

Thanks, and I'm glad at least some one could follow my brand of Mobius logic. That doesn't negate what I said about myself and communication, but perhaps my thoughts weren't as garbled as I thought...this time.

Babymech said:

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speechless says...

Did he downvote your comment?

Well, he banned my fucking account.

Because ummm, one of his sockpuppets was upset?

So, he gets to completely abuse his power here banning others and gets to create sock puppets, and the only downside is his sockpuppet gets banned?

http://i.imgur.com/StDTzLX.jpg

Why is he still here? Why are so many people not here anymore? I wonder if there's a connection.

lucky760 said:

Nice comment down-vote, @BoneRemake. I guess you're not familiar with the song, eh?

God loving parents give gay son a choice

newtboy says...

So, you're saying god made 'his word' perfect, but made man so imperfect they can't possibly understand that perfect word?...unless we 'know the mind of god', but I recall the bible stating that anyone claiming to have knowledge of god's mind/plan is a liar or insane (or both). That seems like a terrible methodology for Him to use.
I think if 'god's word' was perfect, it could not be ignored or misunderstood, ever, under any circumstance, by anyone. No? That's my idea of perfection, not an easily questionable, morally bankrupt (slavery, stoning, raping, etc.), debatable, confusable, ignorable, changeable 'word'.
How to reconcile that logical Mobius loop?
..and who are you to question your god's wish that I not believe in him?! ;-)

Thanks for answering my questions.

shinyblurry said:

Agreed, if the 'word of god' is debatable, it can't be infallible, can it?
Once you think for yourself, you have suddenly become philosophic, not religious, in my eyes. For some, many don't realize the transition happened and continue on with the trappings of religion while not really 'following' it.
It's those (and they are many) that look to religion for their moral compass that bother me. Since it is interpretable to mean near anything, it can't be a moral compass (or it's the kind of compass that Jack Sparrow had, that just points to whatever you want at the time).
I find it funny that many are called 'fundamentalist Christians' yet I haven't heard of a Christian stoning for a while now, and it is the clearly prescribed treatment for infidels. Clearly even the fundies pick and choose what to follow.

The word of God is infallible but human beings are fallible. We all struggle with a sinful nature and are subject to futility. There is one truth, and many flawed individuals trying to grasp that truth through their own peculiar biases and weaknesses of character. No scripture is of private interpretation, but holy men of God spoke as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit. It is the Holy Spirit who teaches men to understand the word of God, but since men are imperfect and ignore or suppress the truth, they will not always listen to the Holy Spirit and come to differing interpretations. There is only one true interpretation, but often that in itself has various facets as you examine the text for different contexts, such as spiritual connotations and applications.

Linked bagel, non-mobius.

Linked bagel, non-mobius.

newtboy says...

Well, I suppose technically it is 2 Mobius strip cut bagels, but the title is definitely misleading. I was expecting one figure 8, one sided bagel at the end, not 2 linked, oddly cut rings.
Also, flipping, rolling, and turning the bagel is not the same as just turning it 180 deg 4 times.
Hmmmm.

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