A year old and a diamond to boot.

Well done Mistress. Fork?

The money analogy was sort of appropriate in that it's a system that works because people and their governments trust/believe/whatever in it. The paper or coins don't have any "worth" beyond their raw materials without that system and the belief in it.

If one day all grocery stores stopped taking money and anything designed around money in exchange for food, your credit card, bills in your wallet, coins in your pocket are no longer worth anything to those stores. We all know it's a ludicrous idea, but just picture a situation where money no longer has value for exchanges...then figure out how you'd operate without it.


Religion and Faith (we always think of faith as being strictly toward religion, but it's not..think we really need another word for it, but capitalizing it will have to do). It's all based around the idea that you pay for things now in exchange for something after death. So......comparing it to money falls apart right there because money has results you can see in exchanges. Religion is based on Faith that one day what you pay now will be rewarded later.....it's just something none of us can know. It'd suck to find out you were wrong later, but it might be worth it to not be burdened with the guilt religions seem to try to infuse into everyone for various things.

My problem with religion is that the people who are the best examples of it being a good way to live usually aren't the ones trying to beat it into your skull as the end all be all way of living. The ones trying to recruit are usually massive hypocrites surpassing the "family values" politicians with the mistress on the side whose also banging his secretary and meeting guys in bathroom stalls. Plus a lot of churches make a load of money by selling religion/forgiveness/marriage/etc......I understand a need for cash to operate but being obscenely profitable and using it to continue opening churches but never "following your teachings by example" through charitable activities or other similarly "good" deeds is a big warning sign to me.

>> ^lucky760:

>> ^poolcleaner:
>> ^lucky760:
>> ^VoodooV:
>> ^lucky760:
She looks a bit like Elvira Mistress of the Dark in this video.
I find it odd that everyone finds her so "hot." She's cute and seems like a fun person to hang out with, but not so much hot really.

maybe it's because she IS cute and IS fun to hang out with MAKES her hot?
Shocking, I know, but some people find qualities other than the physical to be hot.

Not quite, but of course it depends on how you choose to interpret the term "hot." The most common application of the word in describing a person is in reference to their physical and, more specifically, sexual attraction.
It's atypical, to say the least, for a person to describe someone as hot in reference to a list of traits excluding their physicality. You hear "Man, that chick is totally just-okay looking and built like a preteen boy, but she is so effing hot, Broseph. I totally don't wanna do her, but I would enjoy hanging out having a conversation and glass of lemonade with her. She's scorching hot! High five!" not so much.
Cute? You betcha. Winning personality? So it would seem. Hot? Mmm... Big negatory on that one, Kimosabe. But let's just agree to disagree.

What isn't physically "hot" about her? It's never dawned on me that she is anything but. Do you mean hot like stick figure vomit faced model hot, cuz that ain't hot -- that's obnoxious. Or do you mean that her body isn't as toned as that of a hot womans? Either we have a different standard of beauty or I'm misunderstanding a piece of the hotness puzzle.

When I look at her I see an adolescent girl, and I don't tend to regard who I perceive to be young-looking, underdeveloped girls as hot pieces of ass. I'm realizing that one key requisite in my standard of hotness is the piece of meat woman must actually look like a (grown-ass) woman, and not a (still-maturing) teenager.
But that's just me.

English common law (and therefore law in the British Commonwealth and the US) originally was of the sort you describe; the victim petitioned his local magistrate for justice to be done and if a victim did not seek justice there was no action by those with legal jurisdiction

Over time, a larger bureaucracy developed and positions were created to enforce the local 'peace' on behalf of the local power (who could be anyone from a town magistrate to the king).

Eventually the jurisdiction of the king's court was universal and so criminal acts were considered 'breaking the king's peace' (which is different from the modern legal meaning of that phrase) and were dealt with by the courts.

To this day, criminal acts are considered offences against the whole community so the victim's feelings have no control over their prosecution.

In all 50 states a crime is against the state and can be tried by the local justice system, but the system routinely chooses not to pursue charges for various reasons. >> ^GeeSussFreeK:

@Lithic Interesting, I guess at heart, I have a slight problem with prosecutions with the victim being "society". I find the idea of justice being between people, with perhaps minor exceptions. That case of child abuse, where the victim is unable to press charges on their own it makes sense, but in adult on adult crimes, seems to make less sense. In my way of thinking, it would also make laws like drug laws unable to be enforced, because there would be no person to take up charges. Just surface thinking atm, haven't really fleshed out the idea. They had something like what I am talking about in "the moon is a harsh mistress", where by any trial that happened had to be fronted by your own cash. Now, I don't supposed that exactly, but that for a trial to happen, there has to be an interested party that isn't the state.

I guess it depends on the context. Puppies are cute too.

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Cute = perceived jailbait

I'll remember that next time I go to flog myself for my sins.

In reply to this comment by lucky760:
>> ^poolcleaner:

>> ^lucky760:
>> ^VoodooV:
>> ^lucky760:
She looks a bit like Elvira Mistress of the Dark in this video.
I find it odd that everyone finds her so "hot." She's cute and seems like a fun person to hang out with, but not so much hot really.

maybe it's because she IS cute and IS fun to hang out with MAKES her hot?
Shocking, I know, but some people find qualities other than the physical to be hot.

Not quite, but of course it depends on how you choose to interpret the term "hot." The most common application of the word in describing a person is in reference to their physical and, more specifically, sexual attraction.
It's atypical, to say the least, for a person to describe someone as hot in reference to a list of traits excluding their physicality. You hear "Man, that chick is totally just-okay looking and built like a preteen boy, but she is so effing hot, Broseph. I totally don't wanna do her, but I would enjoy hanging out having a conversation and glass of lemonade with her. She's scorching hot! High five!" not so much.
Cute? You betcha. Winning personality? So it would seem. Hot? Mmm... Big negatory on that one, Kimosabe. But let's just agree to disagree.

What isn't physically "hot" about her? It's never dawned on me that she is anything but. Do you mean hot like stick figure vomit faced model hot, cuz that ain't hot -- that's obnoxious. Or do you mean that her body isn't as toned as that of a hot womans? Either we have a different standard of beauty or I'm misunderstanding a piece of the hotness puzzle.

When I look at her I see an adolescent girl, and I don't tend to regard who I perceive to be young-looking, underdeveloped girls as hot pieces of ass. I'm realizing that one key requisite in my standard of hotness is the piece of meat woman must actually look like a (grown-ass) woman, and not a (still-maturing) teenager.

But that's just me.

Cute = perceived jailbait

I'll remember that next time I go to flog myself for my sins.

In reply to this comment by lucky760:
>> ^poolcleaner:

>> ^lucky760:
>> ^VoodooV:
>> ^lucky760:
She looks a bit like Elvira Mistress of the Dark in this video.
I find it odd that everyone finds her so "hot." She's cute and seems like a fun person to hang out with, but not so much hot really.

maybe it's because she IS cute and IS fun to hang out with MAKES her hot?
Shocking, I know, but some people find qualities other than the physical to be hot.

Not quite, but of course it depends on how you choose to interpret the term "hot." The most common application of the word in describing a person is in reference to their physical and, more specifically, sexual attraction.
It's atypical, to say the least, for a person to describe someone as hot in reference to a list of traits excluding their physicality. You hear "Man, that chick is totally just-okay looking and built like a preteen boy, but she is so effing hot, Broseph. I totally don't wanna do her, but I would enjoy hanging out having a conversation and glass of lemonade with her. She's scorching hot! High five!" not so much.
Cute? You betcha. Winning personality? So it would seem. Hot? Mmm... Big negatory on that one, Kimosabe. But let's just agree to disagree.

What isn't physically "hot" about her? It's never dawned on me that she is anything but. Do you mean hot like stick figure vomit faced model hot, cuz that ain't hot -- that's obnoxious. Or do you mean that her body isn't as toned as that of a hot womans? Either we have a different standard of beauty or I'm misunderstanding a piece of the hotness puzzle.

When I look at her I see an adolescent girl, and I don't tend to regard who I perceive to be young-looking, underdeveloped girls as hot pieces of ass. I'm realizing that one key requisite in my standard of hotness is the piece of meat woman must actually look like a (grown-ass) woman, and not a (still-maturing) teenager.

But that's just me.

@Lithic Interesting, I guess at heart, I have a slight problem with prosecutions with the victim being "society". I find the idea of justice being between people, with perhaps minor exceptions. That case of child abuse, where the victim is unable to press charges on their own it makes sense, but in adult on adult crimes, seems to make less sense. In my way of thinking, it would also make laws like drug laws unable to be enforced, because there would be no person to take up charges. Just surface thinking atm, haven't really fleshed out the idea. They had something like what I am talking about in "the moon is a harsh mistress", where by any trial that happened had to be fronted by your own cash. Now, I don't supposed that exactly, but that for a trial to happen, there has to be an interested party that isn't the state.

>> ^poolcleaner:

>> ^lucky760:
>> ^VoodooV:
>> ^lucky760:
She looks a bit like Elvira Mistress of the Dark in this video.
I find it odd that everyone finds her so "hot." She's cute and seems like a fun person to hang out with, but not so much hot really.

maybe it's because she IS cute and IS fun to hang out with MAKES her hot?
Shocking, I know, but some people find qualities other than the physical to be hot.

Not quite, but of course it depends on how you choose to interpret the term "hot." The most common application of the word in describing a person is in reference to their physical and, more specifically, sexual attraction.
It's atypical, to say the least, for a person to describe someone as hot in reference to a list of traits excluding their physicality. You hear "Man, that chick is totally just-okay looking and built like a preteen boy, but she is so effing hot, Broseph. I totally don't wanna do her, but I would enjoy hanging out having a conversation and glass of lemonade with her. She's scorching hot! High five!" not so much.
Cute? You betcha. Winning personality? So it would seem. Hot? Mmm... Big negatory on that one, Kimosabe. But let's just agree to disagree.

What isn't physically "hot" about her? It's never dawned on me that she is anything but. Do you mean hot like stick figure vomit faced model hot, cuz that ain't hot -- that's obnoxious. Or do you mean that her body isn't as toned as that of a hot womans? Either we have a different standard of beauty or I'm misunderstanding a piece of the hotness puzzle.

When I look at her I see an adolescent girl, and I don't tend to regard who I perceive to be young-looking, underdeveloped girls as hot pieces of ass. I'm realizing that one key requisite in my standard of hotness is the piece of meat woman must actually look like a (grown-ass) woman, and not a (still-maturing) teenager.

But that's just me.

>> ^lucky760:

>> ^VoodooV:
>> ^lucky760:
She looks a bit like Elvira Mistress of the Dark in this video.
I find it odd that everyone finds her so "hot." She's cute and seems like a fun person to hang out with, but not so much hot really.

maybe it's because she IS cute and IS fun to hang out with MAKES her hot?
Shocking, I know, but some people find qualities other than the physical to be hot.

Not quite, but of course it depends on how you choose to interpret the term "hot." The most common application of the word in describing a person is in reference to their physical and, more specifically, sexual attraction.
It's atypical, to say the least, for a person to describe someone as hot in reference to a list of traits excluding their physicality. You hear "Man, that chick is totally just-okay looking and built like a preteen boy, but she is so effing hot, Broseph. I totally don't wanna do her, but I would enjoy hanging out having a conversation and glass of lemonade with her. She's scorching hot! High five!" not so much.
Cute? You betcha. Winning personality? So it would seem. Hot? Mmm... Big negatory on that one, Kimosabe. But let's just agree to disagree.


What isn't physically "hot" about her? It's never dawned on me that she is anything but. Do you mean hot like stick figure vomit faced model hot, cuz that ain't hot -- that's obnoxious. Or do you mean that her body isn't as toned as that of a hot womans? Either we have a different standard of beauty or I'm misunderstanding a piece of the hotness puzzle.

>> ^lucky760:

>> ^VoodooV:
>> ^lucky760:
She looks a bit like Elvira Mistress of the Dark in this video.
I find it odd that everyone finds her so "hot." She's cute and seems like a fun person to hang out with, but not so much hot really.

maybe it's because she IS cute and IS fun to hang out with MAKES her hot?
Shocking, I know, but some people find qualities other than the physical to be hot.

Not quite, but of course it depends on how you choose to interpret the term "hot." The most common application of the word in describing a person is in reference to their physical and, more specifically, sexual attraction.
It's atypical, to say the least, for a person to describe someone as hot in reference to a list of traits excluding their physicality. You hear "Man, that chick is totally just-okay looking and built like a preteen boy, but she is so effing hot, Broseph. I totally don't wanna do her, but I would enjoy hanging out having a conversation and glass of lemonade with her. She's scorching hot! High five!" not so much.
Cute? You betcha. Winning personality? So it would seem. Hot? Mmm... Big negatory on that one, Kimosabe. But let's just agree to disagree.


I'm sorry to be the one to break it to you, lucky, but your eyeballs are broken. Mila Kunis is smoking hot. That's not my opinion; that's fact.

>> ^VoodooV:

>> ^lucky760:
She looks a bit like Elvira Mistress of the Dark in this video.
I find it odd that everyone finds her so "hot." She's cute and seems like a fun person to hang out with, but not so much hot really.

maybe it's because she IS cute and IS fun to hang out with MAKES her hot?
Shocking, I know, but some people find qualities other than the physical to be hot.


Not quite, but of course it depends on how you choose to interpret the term "hot." The most common application of the word in describing a person is in reference to their physical and, more specifically, sexual attraction.

It's atypical, to say the least, for a person to describe someone as hot in reference to a list of traits excluding their physicality. You hear "Man, that chick is totally just-okay looking and built like a preteen boy, but she is so effing hot, Broseph. I totally don't wanna do her, but I would enjoy hanging out having a conversation and glass of lemonade with her. She's scorching hot! High five!" not so much.

Cute? You betcha. Winning personality? So it would seem. Hot? Mmm... Big negatory on that one, Kimosabe. But let's just agree to disagree.

>> ^lucky760:

She looks a bit like Elvira Mistress of the Dark in this video.
I find it odd that everyone finds her so "hot." She's cute and seems like a fun person to hang out with, but not so much hot really.


Because her mother was called Elvira.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mila_Kunis

>> ^lucky760:

She looks a bit like Elvira Mistress of the Dark in this video.
I find it odd that everyone finds her so "hot." She's cute and seems like a fun person to hang out with, but not so much hot really.


maybe it's because she IS cute and IS fun to hang out with MAKES her hot?

Shocking, I know, but some people find qualities other than the physical to be hot.

She looks a bit like Elvira Mistress of the Dark in this video.

I find it odd that everyone finds her so "hot." She's cute and seems like a fun person to hang out with, but not so much hot really.

The drugs were for his wife and many mistresses.