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Texas man strips down to make a point about vaccination

vil says...

So he is trying to be clever. But is he making his point well?

Its much like us trying to convince Bob and friends by calling them names, its not going to work.

Mask mandate is an emergency measure and should be put in place by responsible representatives, not public debate. It should be explained seriously and not by anecdote. It should only be enforced where necessary and for as long as necessary. Local authorities should have that authority, just like for other natural disasters.

If you start a discussion, extremists will take hold of it.

Texas man strips down to make a point about vaccination

luxintenebris says...

believe the idea is that all of us do or don't engage in things that we don't necessarily enjoy (or enjoy). either for legality or decency or the stir, it causes...

- breastfeeding
- pistol wearing in town
- hats at weddings/funerals/churches
- shutting off cells at the same and more
- wheels on busy sidewalks
- not heckling the priest's sermon ("YOU SUCK FATHER!")*

some of these are up to the person, some not as bad as others, but common sense SHOULD guide sane people.

'tho if COVID becomes a public health crisis (ala Black Death-esque) they'll find where their freedom meets real oppression (Thyphoid Mary on a large scale).

https://www.americanbar.org/news/abanews/publications/youraba/2020/youraba-april-2020/law-guides-legal-approach-to-pandemic/

personally, the idea that I could end up killing someone quickly replaced my health concerns. if found someone died because wasn't wearing a mask - would kill me.

so, in short, hope any/or all of these blunts find themselves in a situation where their car won't start. and no one will help them 'til them mask up.

"just need a part!"
"not until you observe our policy of public health! here's a mask...and if you'd put on shoes and a shirt..."

bet they'd do it for their f'n car. but for little bobby or old man Thorney?

...hope a camel w/a huge lip blister kisses them straight on the mouth.

reminds me of a song...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFRDimvVimw

testify.



* Bobcat gag

vil said:

If he is against mandatory masks he is arguing against his own case by pretending to break other mandatory requirements that make sense.
If he is for mandatory masks his (sarcastic?) argumentation style is going to antagonize people who do not already agree with him.
WTF?

Texas man strips down to make a point about vaccination

cloudballoon says...

It's the latter. One of the lady on the stage appreciated his theatrics to bring out his point.

I think at this point of the pandemic, a majority of the unvaccinated anti-maskers already feel antagonized seeing someone else minding their own business wearing a mask already.

vil said:

If he is against mandatory masks he is arguing against his own case by pretending to break other mandatory requirements that make sense.
If he is for mandatory masks his (sarcastic?) argumentation style is going to antagonize people who do not already agree with him.
WTF?

Texas man strips down to make a point about vaccination

vil says...

If he is against mandatory masks he is arguing against his own case by pretending to break other mandatory requirements that make sense.
If he is for mandatory masks his (sarcastic?) argumentation style is going to antagonize people who do not already agree with him.
WTF?

Anti-Mask Dad Arrested For Shoving Student

luxintenebris jokingly says...

four days outside a school? something like maybe a shooter or some stalking pedophile?

how 'bout the freedom from some loon and goon being kept away from children?

would be okay if he did spend a night in jail. with some wayward buddha who'd fit him w/an ass mask. then using his tongue in protest would benefit somebody.

again; not his fault. someone else. standing up for freedom. and the cops have to drag the mad dog away.

Dying in the name of freedom

surfingyt says...

takes one to know one. same morons who think we should save every life in afghanistan but won't wear mask or vaccinate to save people at home. y'all are f--kin ironic idiots

TangledThorns said:

COVID is a distraction from buffoon Biden's fuck ups in Afghanistan. He is a complete clown.

Anti-Mask Dad Arrested For Shoving Student

newtboy says...

Just put him in gen pop ant tell them he's a violent chomo.

No videoing the children at schools, you pedo. That's another charge they need to add....and trespassing.

I hope he gets covid in prison....no masks there.

Side note, Florida courts just struck down the no school mask mandate order saying the state doesn't have the authority to determine school policies. Hopefully the new federal laws will stop idiot governors from trying that stupidity again.

Texas man strips down to make a point about vaccination

Afghanistan: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)

luxintenebris says...

...and why is that necessary? are Democrats supposed to defend anything any party member does? right or wrong? it's too weird - acting as if this is some 'reality show'?

if anything, there is little connection between what americans, and what the Rs & Ds, wanted or signed up for.

it's a paradox that in the US we have wanted better systems for education, health, or elections that reflexed our true needs...and the government thought they could do it there...while we are STILL waiting to get it here?!!

dude, the truth is what matters. maybe alternative reality is your gig, but some of us rather deal in the IS and not blind faith.

If...and that is a huge 'if'...you want some real light on the subject...try this;

https://www.yahoo.com/news/served-afghanistan-us-marine-twice-100000389.html


we were there to win hearts and minds, and we had a Republican administration to leave that charge?

see the example of a member of t͟h͟a͟t͟ glee and chess club above ˣ

signed up for rubbing out Bin Laden [and his pals], and after he was 'sleeping w/the fishes', our attention should have turned to the problems at home.

EX: again, see the comments above ˣ

didn't jump on the bandwagon for 'nation building' - especially when our nation is/was in need of repair at all most every level imaginable.

EX: like education...to repeat, referred to the example of the commentator above ˣ

Finally, to quote the author of the article, "What happened last week was inevitable, and anyone saying differently is still lying to you."


[To the others, can anyone explain the 'beijing biden' thing? is it one of those off-right things? like covid not being dangerous? or masks are oppression? would ask him to explain but that's too much like asking a heavy one-legged gal to a slow dance.]


BTW: give some odds on the '22 and '24 races!

* crickets riding tumbleweeds *


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TangledThorns said:

Where are the Democrats to defend dear leader Beijing Biden?

*crickets*

That being said, the Democrats are doomed in 2022.

Oh, and in 2024 too!

Afghanistan: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)

newtboy says...

Crickets!!! Where!?! I'm hungry!

Yeah, we aren't insane and don't congratulate poor performance, unlike the right. Biden didn't cause this mess, but he didn't avoid it either.

Biden doesn't have a secret Chinese bank account used by the Chinese to bribe him, Tiananmen Trump did. Biden didn't say exterminating the Wiegers was fine, Tsingtao Trump did. Biden didn't praise Xi for great work on Covid, guess who did, Tai tai Trump. Who's China's bitch? Lol.

No....not another red tsunami!
Please, Brer Bear, don't throw me into that briar patch. Anything but that! Tear off my skin, rip out my eyes, but please, PLEASE don't throw me into that briar patch!

The republican party is too busy eating itself to pose any real threat. Beyond the massive schism between aging old school republicans and frothing at the mouth Q nutjobs that's splitting the party, the right is also hard at work killing it's voters by suggesting vaccines and masks are bad. In my area, 100% of hospitalization and death is unvaccinated morons, and our hospitals are over capacity and death rates the highest ever...all of them right wing nutjobs. Who's doomed!? LMFAHS!!

TangledThorns said:

Where are the Democrats to defend dear leader Beijing Biden?

*crickets*

That being said, the Democrats are doomed in 2022.

Oh, and in 2024 too!

Cancer Patient’s Husband Has A Message For Anti Vaxers

luxintenebris says...

FL & TX account for 40% of all the new hospitalizations. Yet, they are against mask mandates. Against their fellow lawmakers, citizens, and school administrators who KNOW masks are necessary. FOR THE GOP it is a political weapon.

What is poignant is all the teachers that have and will die. IF given a thought for a moment, the flu season was unusually low last season. In our area, it was almost non-existent. We know masks check the spread of the COVID virus but now there is a possibility it could cut the flu infection risks, too!

Now isn't it worth it? Because COVID attacks the lungs and has already spun off a lambda variant. Why double up the chance parents, teachers, and their children could get at a double shot of respiratory illnesses?!

THINK OF IT: all those immune-compromised folks who got their shots. If it was so dangerous, then where was the storm for Gramma? If it doesn't work- who is in the hospitals? If it's a 'freedom' issue then what freedom will be there for those infected? Didn't we just come from a shutdown? Why is this EVEN A DEBATE?!!! Why is doing so OBVIOUSLY right so anti-right?

Don't let what you don't know to keep you from doing what you do know is the right way to go.

After all, folks like myself have to live w/the risk of new GOP members living to vote, to make more awful laws, and how many of them will mirror what we have now? The horror...the horror...

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luxintenebris jokingly says...

maybe, the idea is to meet logic with insanity. wear down the resistance and install the weirdness until all are weary, worn down, and helpless to resist.

none of the DC GOP, red-hand media can seem to undo their doings. the black-hearted voo-doo of foo has set into the rigid minds of their prey.

FL & TX are leading the nation in new hospitalizations (40% together). yet 'new sheriff in town' Abbott is trying to lock up folks for trying to keep masks on children's faces. and DeSastre calls summer, "covid season", when it was previously a winter thing. both are anti-mask.

none of it makes sense.

one would think people's kids would be their most treasured gift...but their song of 'no mask mandates' could be their swansong. with masks, the last flu season was unusually low and some areas a rarity. the real fear was flu and covid, but w/all the covid cautions it was largely avoided.

but maybe not this time. mix a regular flu season and new strains of covid in the vastness of unvaccinated, unventilated rooms of children?

if fear sells, let's hope this 'terror' becomes the top seller. save all of us.


BTW: am totally sold on masks. even if covid disappear today, they stop transmissions and truly could be an answer to flu season of the future. not a republican. hate being miserable.

newtboy said:

How long before Hulu makes a movie about insane anti vax cultists who don’t believe COVID is dangerous but when they get COVID are over running the medical systems in red states where vaccinations are falling behind to the point that no other illnesses or emergencies can be dealt with and even responsible vaccinated people are dying from lack of medical care, dying from non life threatening injuries and illnesses that minimal care would have prevented, but hospitals are full and clinics closed because their personnel were needed at local hospitals?

Can we please create a policy that, without a vaccine “passport”, no patient is allowed in any hospital that takes a dime in public funding? Let the right wing denier cultists die from the disease they deny exists, they said they gladly would, but in the quarantine cages set up in parking lots, not at home, not in hospital beds, but under freeway overpasses and lower level subterranean parking lots. No responsible vaccinated citizen should be turned away to serve the deniers like is happening in red states today, but they can’t be allowed back in public for weeks at a minimum.

Denver cops refuse mandatory Covid vaccinations

luxintenebris says...

was gonna post this...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5DEGa0_AAo

...but thought it was appropriate in the discussion.

it's a public safety issue. easy to see if one looks at the actual reality of the situation.

Here are a few of the values listed in the Denver Police Department Operations Manual*...

- Integrity: Faithful performance of our duties and always doing the right thing for the right reason
- Accountability: Demonstrating responsibility in all activities
- Respect: Treating others as we would like to be treated
- Customer Service: Exceeding our customers’ expectations

... so if they ask employees in retail to wear masks, factory workers for drug tests, or a hairdresser to pass hygiene training - it's not a stretch to ask a cop to get a vaccine. their own handbook calls for getting vaccinated.

again, public safety.


Can y̲o̲u̲ respect that?


* http://kpm106.com/LEO/LeoDocs/04-15book.pdf

TangledThorns said:

Your body. Your choice. Liberals should respect that.

Overcoming your fears

newtboy says...

The Delta variant is just as infectious from the vaccinated as from the not vaccinated, but +-90% fewer vaccinated seem to catch it and at least 98% fewer require hospitalization. It is far more transmissible, and in the unvaccinated seems to have higher mortality rates than previous variants. Vaccinated and non vaccinated may be totally infectious but have no symptoms.
That means wearing a mask after getting vaccinated is still good science and proper public policy based on current knowledge. Masks protect others from the wearer , they don’t protect wearers from the unmasked sneezing or coughing. They aren’t signs of fear or weakness, they are signs of recognizing a civic responsibility, something the Right wing called a virtue before following Trump into the darkness.

If more people had gotten vaccinated, the delta variant might not have been a problem. Just like if more people had masked up and distanced early, COVID might not have been 1/10 the problem it has been. Now, thanks to anti science conspiracy theorists who refuse public health orders we have Delta and likely have an epsilon variant coming by fall and get to go back to full quarantine with no vaccines.


You don’t attack using germ warfare by infecting your own country. 🤦‍♂️

TangledThorns said:

Still wearing a mask after getting vaccinated? Yeah... CDC, WHO and Beijing Biden are all morons. Meanwhile China is laughing for winning in germ warfare.

Overcoming your fears

TangledThorns says...

Still wearing a mask after getting vaccinated? Yeah... CDC, WHO and Beijing Biden are all morons. Meanwhile China is laughing for winning in germ warfare.



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