No, the teabaggers invaded the republicans and took them mostly far right but really deep into insanity, where they aren't right or left, just angry and lashing out while accepting no responsibility for their parts in problems. They are anti tax, but pro spending, anti big government unless it's a government project they support, then big government is what's needed every time, anti regulation unless it's a regulation against something they dislike (like abortion, relaxing drug policies, marriage, equal protection under the law, etc).

Every teabagger I've met (and there are many) has been at least as if not more racist, homophobic, and bible thumping than the media makes the 'party' out to be, including (sadly) many of my own family members. They are not the fringe, they are the base, you're either lying or don't know your own group. They are also just as dumb and/or stupid as they are portrayed, my favorite slogan is "keep your government hands off my medicare", clearly the woman carrying it was so dumb she didn't understand that medicare is a government program, just like 1/2 of you don't know that the ACA is Obamacare, but HATED Obamacare with a passion while insisting the ACA is great. Not racist? Then what? Just brain dead? It's this disconnect from reality and sanity that made me run from them as soon as it was clear where the party was going....it didn't start out like it ended up, it started out more like OWS.

Haven't you been the one saying all left wingers are in perfect alignment with SJWs recently....repeatedly and smugly? Yes...that was you.

*facepalm

And just a few years later, <ahref="https://www.facebook.com/arnold/photos/a.468825071759.282173.9269711759/10153293270136760/?type=3&permPage=1">Arnie celebrates marriage equality on facebook.

The cynic in me (about 90%) says he saw which way the wind was blowing, but there's always a chance that he genuinely had a change of heart?

I dunno. Whatever his past mistakes, right now, he supports marriage equality and accepts the reality of climate change. That makes him the most reasonable republican by a wide margin.

You are saying I ignored the subtext, but that would infer that what you interpret is in fact what is being written between the lines. Perhaps someone should ask Stewart what his position is on polygamists marrying prior to attacking him based on a subjective interpretation of what he said?

I have no cards in the game so to speak, I'm straight and "conventionally" married (for whatever that is worth), but I 100% support the right to marriage equality for people able to legally consent. I'm not a Stewart fanboy and I don't believe he is infallible, but I just do not see your interpretation in what was said (and what wasn't). We obviously have a difference of opinion, and think each other incorrect, but that's cool as well, we aren't required to agree. But saying 'it's completely obvious and if you don't see it my way, don't bother replying' is a cop out... Never mind adding Nazi's and an inferred cocksucking insult. You going for a world record of logical fallacies in one post? \= )

Irt marriage in general, my point wasn't that the institution itself was perfect, it's that every couple should be allowed to define their relationship on their own terms without anyone else stepping in to define it for them. Yes, it's a contract, but like any contract we choose to enter in to, we have to be satisfied by the terms of it. That it can be toxic is stating the obvious, but that's neither here nor there irt the topic at hand.

As to whether monogamy is a natural state, that's kinda irrelevant to the topic at hand.

And my naughtiness? \= )

"but monogamy is inconvenient for damn near everyone who practices it."

How is this not defining other people's relationships? That statement is pretty unequivocal. Not really much to be inferred there. ; )

Erm, Stewart didn't say he was against marriage equality for polygamists... He was pointing out the polygamists, much like bisexuals, make a choice, as opposed to gays being born attracted to their own sex. That it's not comparing apples to apples as it were. I didn't see any specific condemnation of polygamists although the joke was at their expense.

To play devil's advocate, there's a reasonable argument to be made that polygamists really aren't worthy of marriage equality.

His point is absolutely valid. People are born homosexual, people choose to be polygamous. It might be that as a society we make an arbitrary decision that polygamy is not ok. Maybe future generations will decide that it is ok.

Personally, I don't give a damn what consenting adults get up to, but I think it's pretty important not to let the issue of SSM equality get sidetracked by the orthogonal issue of polygamous marriage.

If you want to campaign for polygamous marriage, go for it, but I think it's reasonable to pick your battles and in the USA, change happens slowly. It was over a century from the emancipation proclamation to the Civil Rights Act.

I'll quite happily say that SSM is a more important (but unrelated) issue than polygamous marriage.

As Stewart, an open-minded liberal makes note, polygamists are not at all worthy of marriage equality like gays. Not even close--dismissive. I have often (more often than not) seen discussions on this matter where a conservative will say "Yeah, what next, marriage between animals, or multiple marriages?" The best response was from a gay man, although not alone, it was just asinine. "No, no one is saying THAT..." That, as in those two things compare how? It was his tone that said the most--"I completely agree."

As I told Newt, you can't argue with multiple marriages when you are just trying to legalize gay marriage right now. So when one side demeans it, the other either ignores or joins in. Classic, if you can't stop the bully, pick on his target.

Now that I have calmed down from that judgmental bullshit; better?

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Ireland has become the first country in the world to introduce same sex marriage on the basis of a popular vote, after the ‘Yes’ side won a resounding victory in the marriage equality referendum, taking a decisive 62% of the vote. -DailyBeast
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/05/23/ireland-says-yes-to-marriage-equality.html

It's a good day to be Irish. Congrats Ireland. *promote *quality

Update: looking like a landslide win for marriage equality.

https://www.facebook.com/irishtimes/photos/a.10150091152971158.270119.45441411157/10152919152556158/?type=1

Can we all agree that regardless of your stance on gun control, it has nothing whatsoever to do with marriage equality, tax policy or healthcare*?

Seriously, I don't care what your personal favourite cause is. It may have merit, it may not, but if you have to back it up by having Rick fucking Santorum speak, you've already lost.

*apart from supplying doctors with gsw patients, obviously.

Bah, she's a two faced manipulator who pulled a cheap stunt (ie. crying discrimination/misogyny) because her popularity was in the shitcan. If you saw her operate during the Howard years in opposition, she was one of the most effective attack dogs the ALP had. She didn't allow being a woman to slow her down then, but as soon as the opinion polls fell away, suddenly the mean ol' men are treating her badly... /eyeroll

This is the same woman who doesn't believe in marriage equality...

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/oct/01/julia-gillard-equal-marriage

Discrimination is okay as long as you're not the one being discriminated against... So fuck her and fuck her sniveling "Oh poor me" bullshit. Equality is something everyone should have, not just a convenience to be exploited for political gain.