>> ^Lowen:

The point the video made was: we share a common ancestor with all monkeys, therefor we are monkeys. It's the same as; we share a common ancestor with all animals/vertebrates/mammals, therefor we are animals, vertebrates and mammals. So if chimpanzees all share a common ancestor with monkeys, then they are monkeys, even if they also share a common ancestor with apes and are therefor also apes.


I don't even know where to start with how wrong that is.

The point the video made was: we share a common ancestor with all monkeys, therefor we are monkeys. It's the same as; we share a common ancestor with all animals/vertebrates/mammals, therefor we are animals, vertebrates and mammals. So if chimpanzees all share a common ancestor with monkeys, then they are monkeys, even if they also share a common ancestor with apes and are therefor also apes.

>> ^Fusionaut:

Having a common ancestor does not mean they are the same. We share a common ancestor with all mammals yet we are not horses or pigs or dolphins or lions or platypuses et cetera...>> ^Lowen:
>> ^gargoyle:
Fact check -- chimpanzees are NOT monkeys.
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Having a common ancestor does not mean they are the same. We share a common ancestor with all mammals yet we are not horses or pigs or dolphins or lions or platypuses et cetera...>> ^Lowen:

>> ^gargoyle:
Fact check -- chimpanzees are NOT monkeys.

False: http://videosift.com/video/Turns-out-we-DID-come-from-monkeys

>> ^Jinx:

Its not just the cute fluffy mammals which are crucial to ecossytems and possible hold the keys to further discovery. I don't feel sorry for the spider, I have no empathy towards it at all but we still have a responsibility to at least study it and its habitat BEFORE we build a road over it and possible extinguish any chance of discovery for good. The road can wait a little longer when concerning an organism that took millions of years to evolve.
Who knows, one day when we're building things out of spider silk you might be glad we took the time to study this rare arachnid


Precisely. Let's not assume that a species is useless only a few seconds after realizing that it existed at all. Moreover, one should not make assumptions when one has zero biological background whatsoever.

You don't know what it eats. You don't know what eats it. You don't know its importance to its ecosystem. It could be a keystone species, an indicator species, an endemic species, or one of a hundred other important parts of a complex network of organisms. Do your research and then make conclusions. Not the other way around.

Its not just the cute fluffy mammals which are crucial to ecossytems and possible hold the keys to further discovery. I don't feel sorry for the spider, I have no empathy towards it at all but we still have a responsibility to at least study it and its habitat BEFORE we build a road over it and possible extinguish any chance of discovery for good. The road can wait a little longer when concerning an organism that took millions of years to evolve.

Who knows, one day when we're building things out of spider silk you might be glad we took the time to study this rare arachnid

>> ^probie:

What is it with Australia? Seriously. It's as if all the really nasty evolution took place in one small corner of the planet. Great Whites, tiny jellyfish that can kill you, mammals that produce poison, microscopic hypodermic needle plants...


As Dylan Moran said
"No-one should live there. It's a rock. On fire. And everything there is trying to kill you."

disclaimer: I lived in sydney for two years and nothing succeeded in killing me.

What is it with Australia? Seriously. It's as if all the really nasty evolution took place in one small corner of the planet. Great Whites, tiny jellyfish that can kill you, mammals that produce poison, microscopic hypodermic needle plants...

Ponies dream, cats, dogs and people too. So the question I wonder about is, if they can dream can they also imagine?

I mean thinking about something either not there immediatly or will happen in the future sometime, makes me wonder about what mammal brains are capable of. Love, yes I think a case might be made for that.

So if mammals brains are MORE than we give them credit for I wonder if we should re think our current relationship with them and try better to understand them. (wild animals/food animals)

Jaguar Kittens are cute but seriously WTF was that other animal.

When I see species from under the ocean that I don't recognize, I can understand that. Maybe even really small Mammals. But I thought I saw it all when it came to large mammals and that binturong or whatever was just wow.

" Most birds and some mammals make beautiful sounds, but primarily to scare others away -- or to get laid."


and this is different from humans how? lol, marilyn manson nine inch nails korn .... every guy in a rock band ever...


the main difference is we can say there is a difference. shrug.

Can they make it, do they like it, and do they like making it are all big questions!

those of us not ravished into admiration of these intricate workings of life must be afraid of the implications for some reason... life just is.

just look at pictures of zygotes from different mammals.

>> ^UsesProzac:

Don't binge drink! BINGE DRINKING KILLS SMALL MAMMALS.


Actaully.........WELL SAID. Sifters, take note.

Don't binge drink! BINGE DRINKING KILLS SMALL MAMMALS.

What causes this?

http://bubbleheads.blogspot.com/2005/03/more-sonar-causes-sea-mammal-beaching.html

>> ^Quboid:

>> ^hpqp:
>> ^Quboid:
Interesting hypothesises, but there are one or two other species who can't talk, yet who manage to propagate their genes and while I have not studied them at length, I don't believe it's really a case of forcing the female.

Actually, the hypothesis is total bunk: in most (if not all) mammal species, the female chooses the male she will mate with (hence the males evolving fighting and/or show-off attributes).
That being said, I chuckled at the explanation of short-haired lesbians.

Indeed. Perhaps I should have used the sarcasm option, since what I meant was that there's thousands of species that manage to communicate well enough without rape and that his hypothesises is nonsense.


Oops, my misunderstanding then