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Published, finally!

In reply to this comment by rasch187:
*promote the Kop!

Thanks for the *.promote (again)!

In reply to this comment by rasch187:
*promote the Kop!

That's cause she's from Liverpool where they all talk funny. It's an aquired skill for sure! x

I'm a lifelong Liverpool fan and I had never seen that video before. A year later they were all singing "You'll never walk alone". It will sift...eventually.

In reply to this comment by SlipperyPete:
Thanks for the promote: http://www.videosift.com/video/The-Kop-at-Anfield-Stadium-Liverpool-1964

Doesn't seem to appeal to many, but I just love this clip!

Thanks for the promote: http://www.videosift.com/video/The-Kop-at-Anfield-Stadium-Liverpool-1964

Doesn't seem to appeal to many, but I just love this clip!

yup that's liverpool for you.. cess pit of Britain... if not Europe!
Hoodie, Skally Skum.

Sadly they don't just stay in Liverpool, like a virus they spread out to neighboring towns and cities.

Liveleak: "CCTV,Liverpool,England"

dangerous to move that slowly in liverpool! some little scally will have the nuts and bolts out of one of those legs in flash!

... I had to look up what a 'scouser' was.

... its someone from Liverpool.

yeah i agree with you, especially as european languages come from indian.

lithuanians and londoners use the double negative, but the BBC doesn't.

but...

i do think it is "uneducated" to speak only in your "mother" accent.

learn a different accent and use that for business. Why should business adapt to 10923782937 accents? that makes no sense. educate yourself, learn how to talk in the business arena. NOBODY is born talking business english, even "whites" have to learn it.

I sleep with a trilingual linguistics graduate, and i speak lithuanian (the most archaic indoeuropean language still alive) so you know, i get your point. but i think "tolerance" goes too far into the realm of "impractical" and "lazy".

I used to teach swimming, and i would use a posh correct english accent in the health club and a broad south london accent in the public pools in the rough neighbourhoods. Why not?


In reply to this comment by SDGundamX:
I'm not against having a standardized vocabulary, spelling, or grammar. What was specifically the topic of the video that comment was a reply to was the uproar over a black teacher teaching kids that they were "uneducated" if they said "axe" instead of "ask." And it simply isn't true. It has nothing to do with education and everything to do with English having multiple dialects. And historically, the dialect spoken by white Americans has always been considered okay, regardless of how far from the supposed standard it is (which is why I brought up the Boston pronunciation of "car" as "ca-" and the non-existent Southern contraction "y'all") while the dialects of minorities such as Black Americans and Latin Americans has traditionally been frowned upon.

Thinking there is a standard English pronunciation is delusional. There are accepted standards (plural) of English, most of which are based on white, affluent speech. Now that English is an international language, however, that will surely change. Take India, for instance. They say things like:

"Open the air conditioner."

Instead of:

"Turn on the air conditioner."

Is it wrong? Not if everyone in India talks that way. As more countries embrace English and make their own personalized changes to the language you'll see less arguing about what is "educated" and "uneducated" English and more open acceptance of the fact that people who live in different places speak English differently--and get along just fine without needing "standard" English.

In reply to this comment by MINK:
i see nothing wrong with there being a "business english" standard, or "bbc english". Of course it's not ebonics or half spanish.

I learned Lithuanian to help me get work in Lithuania. I don't swear in front of new clients. I don't walk around talkin fakkin sarf landan aksent and insistin dat peeples rispek my rights, innit.

almost all jobs involve speaking to people, and therefore the way you speak is part of your job performance. What's wrong with that?

In the UK there was a trend for putting call centres in scotland because the scottish accent was judged to be the most trustworthy. What should I do, cry "discrimination!" and insist on more call centres in liverpool (an accent nobody can understand or trust)?

bear in mind i am not at all anti immigration, i just think that it's normal to have a separate language and etiquette for business, and there's no way that's going to be based on a fringe accent, it's gonna get melted down to "average".

People never used to say "gonna" on TV. Now they do. Things change. It's ok. There's many other ways to oppress minorities if that's what you want to do. Eradicating accent prejudice is never ever going to work.

I'm not against having a standardized vocabulary, spelling, or grammar. What was specifically the topic of the video that comment was a reply to was the uproar over a black teacher teaching kids that they were "uneducated" if they said "axe" instead of "ask." And it simply isn't true. It has nothing to do with education and everything to do with English having multiple dialects. And historically, the dialect spoken by white Americans has always been considered okay, regardless of how far from the supposed standard it is (which is why I brought up the Boston pronunciation of "car" as "ca-" and the non-existent Southern contraction "y'all") while the dialects of minorities such as Black Americans and Latin Americans has traditionally been frowned upon.

Thinking there is a standard English pronunciation is delusional. There are accepted standards (plural) of English, most of which are based on white, affluent speech. Now that English is an international language, however, that will surely change. Take India, for instance. They say things like:

"Open the air conditioner."

Instead of:

"Turn on the air conditioner."

Is it wrong? Not if everyone in India talks that way. As more countries embrace English and make their own personalized changes to the language you'll see less arguing about what is "educated" and "uneducated" English and more open acceptance of the fact that people who live in different places speak English differently--and get along just fine without needing "standard" English.

In reply to this comment by MINK:
i see nothing wrong with there being a "business english" standard, or "bbc english". Of course it's not ebonics or half spanish.

I learned Lithuanian to help me get work in Lithuania. I don't swear in front of new clients. I don't walk around talkin fakkin sarf landan aksent and insistin dat peeples rispek my rights, innit.

almost all jobs involve speaking to people, and therefore the way you speak is part of your job performance. What's wrong with that?

In the UK there was a trend for putting call centres in scotland because the scottish accent was judged to be the most trustworthy. What should I do, cry "discrimination!" and insist on more call centres in liverpool (an accent nobody can understand or trust)?

bear in mind i am not at all anti immigration, i just think that it's normal to have a separate language and etiquette for business, and there's no way that's going to be based on a fringe accent, it's gonna get melted down to "average".

People never used to say "gonna" on TV. Now they do. Things change. It's ok. There's many other ways to oppress minorities if that's what you want to do. Eradicating accent prejudice is never ever going to work.

i see nothing wrong with there being a "business english" standard, or "bbc english". Of course it's not ebonics or half spanish.

I learned Lithuanian to help me get work in Lithuania. I don't swear in front of new clients. I don't walk around talkin fakkin sarf landan aksent and insistin dat peeples rispek my rights, innit.

almost all jobs involve speaking to people, and therefore the way you speak is part of your job performance. What's wrong with that?

In the UK there was a trend for putting call centres in scotland because the scottish accent was judged to be the most trustworthy. What should I do, cry "discrimination!" and insist on more call centres in liverpool (an accent nobody can understand or trust)?

bear in mind i am not at all anti immigration, i just think that it's normal to have a separate language and etiquette for business, and there's no way that's going to be based on a fringe accent, it's gonna get melted down to "average".

People never used to say "gonna" on TV. Now they do. Things change. It's ok. There's many other ways to oppress minorities if that's what you want to do. Eradicating accent prejudice is never ever going to work.


In reply to this comment by SDGundamX:
One issue that no one has mentioned is the issue of power. When people talk about standard English in America, what they are usually really talking about is the English spoken by white, middle-class Americans. There's this unspoken assumption that if you don't speak like a white, middle-class American then you aren't educated. And that's really the tragedy of this story. Some of these kids might be capable of getting perfect scores on their SAT's but because they pronounce words differently than the minority group that is currently in power (white Americans) they'll be judged as somehow inferior on a job interview.

I just want to point out that there is no such thing as "standard English." There's British English, Australian English, Singaporean English, Indian English and a host of others. There's not even a "standard American English." There are many regional standards that have overlapping facets but still also have a lot of variation--the most important variation being pronunciation. Think about this--why is it in this clip the black children are considered uneducated for pronouncing ask as "ax" yet Boston children are not considered uneducated for pronouncing "car" as "ca-."

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