In thumbnail sees girl doing a floor routine, and reads "breaks both legs" in title.

Oh, hell no! That's a hard pass for me

(edit) Most search results say broke legs, but It seems she actually dislocated her knees and tore some ligaments. https://www.nola.com/lsu/2019/04/auburn-gymnastics-coach-gives-update-samantha-cerios-injuries.html
Still not watching

And this is how I destroyed my knee, Severing my ACL, tearing my medial collateral ligament, and tearing out the meniscus. (among other injuries)

Good Times! lol

Edit, I've hit everything from trees while in mid-air to cows

You almost never hear of an NHL player being upset (in a litigation sort of way) about injuries they got that resulted from fighting (drop the gloves and throw punches).

In general, the one major incident I am aware of that resulted in legal action being taken against a player was when Todd Bertuzzi checked Steve Moore down the the ice from behind and then drove his head/neck into the ice with his stick in some heavy followup hits. This is mentioned in the wikipedia article @eric3579 posted, and hinted at in the article @RedSky posted from the Economist.

In that incident, Steve Moore (a lower-level player on the Colorado Avalanche) had hit Marcus Naslund (a star level player of the Vancouver Canucks) in a previous game. That hit was a fairly normal hockey hit -- Naslund had the puck, Moore intentionally hit him to try to separate him from the puck, but arguably led with his elbow to Naslund's head. It was a dangerous play, that should have be penalized (it wasn't) -- although I don't think Moore intended to cause injury. It is a fast game, sometimes you can't react quick enough to avoid a dangerous collision like that. Still, I think that kind of play should be penalized to make it clear to players that they need to avoid dangerous plays if possible. Steve Moore didn't have a history of dirty or dangerous play, but still.

Anyway, all of that dovetails in pretty nicely with my previous post, specifically about what leads to a "spontaneous fight". Moore, a 3-4th line guy (lower ranks of skill/ability on the team) hit star player Naslund. In almost ANY hockey game where that kind of thing happens, you can expect that somebody from the star's team is going to go over to the offending player and push them around, probably with the intent to fight them. Usually it happens right at the time of the incident, but here it was delayed to a following game between the two teams.

In the next game between Colorado and Vancouver, Moore got challenged by a Vancouver player early in the first period and fought him. But I guess that the lag time and injury to Naslund (he ended up missing 3 games) had brewed up more bad blood than that so many Vancouver players hadn't gotten it fully out of their systems. Later in the game, Todd Bertuzzi skated up behind Moore when he didn't have the puck, grabbed him and tailed him for several seconds trying to get him into a second fight, and when he didn't respond just hauled back and punched him in the back of the head.

Moore fell to the ice, where Bertuzzi piled on him and drove his head into the ice. A big scrum/dogpile ensued, with Moore on the bottom. As a result of that, Moore fractured 3 vertebrae in his neck, stretched or tore some neck ligaments, got his face pretty cut up, etc. Pretty severe injuries.

So, in comparison:
Moore (lesser skill) hit Naslund (high skill) resulting in a minor(ish) injury, that could have ended up being much worse. But, it was a legitimate hockey play that just happened to occur at a time when Naslund was vulnerable -- arguably no intent to harm/injure.
Bertuzzi hit Moore in a following game, after he had already "answered" for his hit on Naslund by fighting a Vancouver player. Bertuzzi punched him from behind and followed up with further violence, driving his head into the ice and piling on him, initiating a dogpile. Not even close to a legitimate hockey play, well away from the puck, and with pretty clear intent to harm (maybe not to injure, but to harm).


Moore sued Bertuzzi, his team (the Canucks), and the NHL. Bertuzzi claimed that his coach had put a "bounty" on Moore, and that he hadn't intended to injure him -- just to get back at him for his hit on Naslund. Bertuzzi was suspended for a fairly long span of time, and his team was fined $250,000. The lawsuit was kind of on pause for a long time to gauge the long-term effects on Moore, but was eventually settled out of court (confidential terms).

All of this stuff is or course related to violence in hockey, but only loosely tied to fighting in hockey. Some would argue (with some merit in my opinion) that if the refs had called a penalty on Moore's hit on Naslund, and allowed a Vancouver player to challenge him to a fight at that time instead of the following game, it probably wouldn't have escalated to the level it did.

So, at least in my opinion, the league (NHL) needs to be careful, consistent, and fairly harsh in handing out penalties/suspensions to players who commit dangerous plays that can or do result in injuries -- especially repeat offenders. BUT, I think that allowing fighting can actually help mitigate that kind of stuff also -- as long as the league keeps it from getting out of hand and the enforcer type players continue to follow their "code".

@artician- You are correct in your observations the reason being....currently a recent victim of two HPD officers willing to perjure themselves before a jury in order to satisfy their egos and their state mandate to fill beds in their jails (or prison, had we decided not to take a plea down to keep them from sealing our fate).
Felony obstruction for mouthing-off in the back of a cop car to a couple of complete douchebags who could not stand that we would not let them treat us like some kid a couple of jocks would have bullied in junior high.

The official statement was alleged that their lives had been threatened which when in fact we surmised in colorful detail their mommy and daddy issues, their obvious history of abuse and or neglect, questioning their sexuality and manhood simultaneously, all while we voluntarily accompanied them into said car in cuffs from a girl's apartment after we gave them the benefit of the doubt and rendered I.D. to them and TOLD them we had a warrant for an unpaid traffic ticket.

Was in the home of a friend when her ADT system (installed a day earlier) sent a false alarm-They had tried to call her but she was passed-out with an I.V. in her arm (vitamin treatment) bed-ridden with a torn ligament. Cops came to the door, was just waking-up and (stupidly) let them in and addressed their incivility when they after determining that the alarm call was false, began to ask me what my "problem" was-Asked them why they had to act like a couple of uncivil douchebags in someone's home and asked politely if the one cop, would remove his dark sunglasses and that they were making me nervous.

This is Texas BTW, land of the most redneck fucks to be found anywhere in the planet of police.

Meet an an idiot who poked the rabid dogs with a stick and found soon that we had over-stepped our "freedom of speech."

Yeah, fucking pissed and for good reason. It's called a felony what they did, and with full-participation of the D.A. and the judge.

Ten years ago this would not have happened. we know because we have spoken our mind to arresting cunts before, as well as spoken like a gentleman to those treating us with the same consideration who represented the local constabulary.

All cops are or will be felons during the course for their tenure as a "peace officer', in the United States.

Now we must jump though many, many hoops to fulfill probation obligations, pay money we don't have, and if I make it through, will be able to have the case sealed, so that we might work again in this state without having a felony (never before) on our permanent record.

So this is Canada?? Your time is coming as well, just look at the show-out when the damn G-20 came to Canada a few years back.

They're gearing-up for chaos folks-
(collective object-pronoun used to avoid incrimination) If you are interested, we'll tell you why in a P.M. It's kind of hard not to be incensed while being kicked while prone.

Been bullied by cunts just like this on the sift before and those petty cowards are afraid to even show their asses here any longer.

Actually, he wouldn't fall straight down, he would get a lot of horizontal velocity and ultimately hit at about the same speed as a 6-7 ft fall. With a good tuck-n-roll, maybe a broken bone worst case, pulled ligaments probably.

I assume he's ridden (and presumably fallen off of) bikes like this before, only shorter. There are several people riding around him on bikes that are in the 5-6ft tall range.

As someone who has torn ligaments from twisting an ankle, this actually made me a little nauseous.

It doesn't matter if this type of thing happens in other countries.. it give's no one the right to do horror simulations to someone else (regardless of their age) without them knowing what's going on.. in this case with or without parents consent just to teach them what the conductor thinks is a good lesson.
Where is the research to show this does good for a person? I've never seen it and it's one of the type of studies/subject i pay attention to.

Physical abuse can cause broken bones, damaged to tissue and ligaments etc, these things are more effectively treated by surgeons if ill-advised to be left to heal over time (not necessarily including extreme cases, also not condoning).
Whereas psychological abuse can lead to psychotic breakdowns that potentially destroy a persons personality and grasp on reality causing mental destabilization that can last a lifetime and currently be irreparable.

@LarsaruS
So you don't like the ufc.. because you can't paralyze people? ..?!?!?

It's supposed to be sport fighting. Not televised manslaughter.
There are rules in place to protect people's lives and careers.

Perfect example. Mark Coleman Vs. Allan Goes at min 1:55
Throwing knees to Goes' head while he's already in a choke on the ground.

Goes' brain is starved of oxygen while it's being bounced around his skull.
His neck is cranked and being compressed even more with each blow.

Goes was knocked out thankfully. If not:

1- His skull would've been busted open
2- His neck would've been snapped
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Second.

Saying that disallowing knees or stomps to a downed opponent benefits fighters "dumb enough" to "lie down in a fight"..

Is like saying disallowing eye gouges or arm breaks benefit fighters "dumb enough" to "leave their eyes or ligaments unguarded in a fight"

Please realize how crude your statement sounds. You may wanna cut back on the horror movies a bit. =/ =]

Wow, that's a much more scary operation than I thought; I was always told the went in and "cleaned up scar tissue". Seems like a far cry from permanently cutting a ligament....

This info is useful to weightlifters too. If you're doing heavy bench and/or shoulder presses with wrists that might be a little weak, it's better to wrap up your wrists than risk injury. I know. I tore some wrist ligaments from pushing it too hard without wrist protection.

Now weightlifters don't have to be as elaborate with their wraps as boxers do, but it's still useful information.

some of these women are anorexic. Muscle, ligament, and bone cannot perform optimally without proper nourishment. No matter how hard you train.

That said, I was very moved by this montage.. quite powerful imagery and backstory.. I can take a page of inspiration from these women who, after such tragedy, somehow manage to carry on.. Can we say *bravo (brava) for just a smidgen of the courage it takes to do that?

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breathless
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Favourites

1) Season - Autumn
2) Place in the world - Yellowstone National Park, without all the tourists
3) Children's book - Any of the Matthew Looney books
4) TV Series - Battlestar Galactica (the new series)
5) Word - butterfluggin
6) Film - Tough call, but I'm going with The Empire Strikes Back
7) Curse - "Twat" seems to be my favorite these days
Creature - Dolphins, even if they are the douchebags of the sea.
9) Past time - Organ donation
10) Person - My son, of course

Which one?

11) Dog or cat - Both, but I own neither. I have two rats.
12) Sweet or savoury - Sweet
13) Cereal or Toast - Toast
14) Tan or pale - Tan. I'm always afraid that I might have bored the pale ones to death
15) Shoes or barefoot - Barefoot. I have hobbit feet
16) Desktop or laptop - laptop
17) Drive or walk - Drive. This is America, dammit.
18) Drama or comedy - Comedy
19) Sex or food - Sex
20) Futurama or Simpsons - Futurama now, but I used to be a diehard Simpsons fan

The Sift

21) Your fave personal submission - Dutch musician with huge ears just wants to fuck you
22) A great comment on one of your vids - the awesome thing about this video is kronos was searching for porn and typed in his favorite fetishes "Dutch, musician, huge ears, wants to fuck me" and he just so happened to stumble across this.
23) Most off the wall member - evil_disco_man. He's quiet. It's always the quiet ones who put severed heads in the crisper.
24) Favourite user name - MycroftHomlz. It shows that smarty-pants scientists can't spell for shit.
25) Your most used channel - Comedy
26) Personal dumbass moment - Giving choggie my email address
27) Best avatar - schmawy's. All of them.
28) Partner in crime - I run with the Hole In The Wall gang, consisting of blankfist, rottenseed, dystopianfuturetoday, schmawy, his sister Issykitty, and alien_concept. Sometimes we let Farhad ride with us, because deep down he so desperately wants to be a cowboy.
29) Do people offline know of your sift problem - Not since I killed them
30) Idea for the site - Glory holes

About you

31) Where do you live - Casper, Wyoming, United States
32) Smoker/non-smoker - non-smoker (quit 12 years ago)
33) Left or right handed - righty tighty
34) Hair colour - reddish brown, with dashing gray highlights
35) Relationship status - I'm in a serious booty-call relationship
36) How tall - 5' 9", or 175 cm. 175 sounds bigger, so let's go with that
37) Children - One child on this planet is blessed with 50% of my genes
38) Ever had an operation - Many:
a. Appendectomy
b. Plate implants for a broken arm
c. Bone graft from pelvis for same broken arm that got horribly infected
d. Hemorrhoid removal - Yet blankfist is still here
e. Torn ligament repair - left foot
f. Torn ligament repair - right hand
g. Lasik eye surgery
h. Foot enlargement - Hoping that by corollary something wonderful would happen
39) Best feature - My beautiful spleen
40) Use four words to describe yourself - Morally bankrupt, donations please

If you could...what, who, when etc

41) Bring a famous person back from the dead - Jesus, just so he could tell all the neo-cons to shut the fuck up
42) Give 50 grand to any charity - Cancer/leukemia research
43) Send someone on a one way ticket to the moon - Me. I hear it's a good place to raise a family
44) Relive a moment in your life -
45) Have a superpower - Walking on water, that way I could tell all the neo-cons to shut the fuck up
46) Find out one thing you've always wanted to know - If there's an afterlife
47) Have the opposite gender deal with something you have to - Listen to all the talk about fucking fantasy football in the crapper at work
48) Be president for one hour - Give the Indians everything back, and send whitey back to Europe
49) Delete a period in history - What day was dystopianfuturetoday born?
50) Achieve one thing - Write the great American novel. About robot pirates from outer space.

That's gotta be murder on his tendons and ligaments.