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Supreme Court ruling on Donald Trump immunity

newtboy says...

Lied to? How so….be specific.

😂 Reiterate the oblivious 😂….um…yes. The oblivious felon did make this claim first, the oblivious “justices” did reiterate.

So why is Trump celebrating like he just got a get out of jail free card?


This is not how it’s always been, before this ruling official acts still had to be lawful…not anymore. As long as they’re official acts, they are legal (as far as penalties are concerned) no matter what the law says. That’s what they ruled.
Edit: They did not give the disgraced ex president his claimed total immunity however…if the courts decide fomenting a coup was not an official presidential act, or falsifying documents for fake electors is not an official president’s act, or secretly pressuring a governor to “find” 11000+ votes is not an official presidential act, or taking and withholding classified state secrets and lying about having them to the FBI and actively hiding them from warranted searches after he was no longer president are not official presidential acts, then he still has some serious legal trouble to add to whatever happens next week at his sentencing.

As long as the President is using official powers, what he uses them for cannot be questioned. Biden could assassinate Trump like he claims Biden tried to do 100% legally now, and Thomas, and Alito, and the other corrupt “justices” that invalidated a long cherished institution for money, and anyone he thinks threatens America…100% immune because protecting the nation is a Presidential duty.
Fortunately Trump tried to hide most of his crimes by using unofficial orders to non governmental agents through unofficial channels, so he’s got an uphill climb to argue they are official acts.
The issues listed in the dissent are not extreme or hypothetical, they are in fact campaign promises by the convicted felon and terrorist leader and specific examples argued by the Trump lawyers as things that are (now) legal…like assassination of a political rival.
The court just couldn’t help but try to minimize its extremist ruling that upends 248 years of the rule of law and puts the president above the law when using presidential powers (like assassinations, or cancelling elections, jailing political rivals, disbanding the border patrol, etc.) by calling threats made by those who have followed through on those exact same threats before “fear mongering of extreme hypotheticals"
The president refusing to accept the election results and trying to seize or hold onto power illegally was one example…not extreme or hypothetical or fear mongering, it fucking happened, and this ruling means it may be legal (if considered official).

Biden damn well better make use of this immunity to save democracy or maybe he deserves to lose, he now has carte Blanche to pull anything, absolutely anything as long as he says it’s for America, everything is allowed, nothing is forbidden. I’m worried he has morals and won’t use these new unlimited assassination and coup powers…very worried. I know for an absolute certainty that the other guy doesn’t.

bobknight33 said:

@newtboy

Again you have been lied to by the fake news and Democrat party.

Sadly this had to go to the Supreme court just to reiterate the oblivious. When will you learn -- you are always being lied to about Trump.



SCOTUS upheld what always been. Acts done with in POTUS authority are immune from prosecution. Acts done outside of POTUS authority can be criminal and prostituted. Nothing changed nothing added nothing removed.
From the SCOTUS ruling " the dissents position in the end boil down ignoring the Constitution's separation of powers and the Courts precedent and instead fear mongering of extreme hypotheticals."

Supreme Court ruling on Donald Trump immunity

bobknight33 says...

@newtboy

Again you have been lied to by the fake news and Democrat party.

Sadly this had to go to the Supreme court just to reiterate the oblivious. When will you learn -- you are always being lied to about Trump.



SCOTUS upheld what always been. Acts done with in POTUS authority are immune from prosecution. Acts done outside of POTUS authority can be criminal and prostituted. Nothing changed nothing added nothing removed.
From the SCOTUS ruling " the dissents position in the end boil down ignoring the Constitution's separation of powers and the Courts precedent and instead fear mongering of extreme hypotheticals."

Biden Brings Felon On Stage

newtboy says...

“Fined for mishandling the payment “?
She hired a law firm and classified the payment as legal fees. Isn’t that something your side says isn’t a crime? 😂
The dossier was bought and paid for by Republicans, then sold to the Clinton Campaign. I know you hate that fact, but it’s there.

The laptop contents are fantasy, as is the diary. Half truths and pure fiction. Shouldn’t have tampered with it if you wanted anyone to pay attention….not that it would matter anyway, Hunter is nobody.

The economy crashed under the felon, it got better under Biden. Trump can get credit for the first 6-12 months of the next president’s economy which were not good, but absolutely not last 12 which so far are amazing, far better than the last guy’s best year.

Michael Flynn was convicted of treasonous activity and the felon Trump pardoned him because he did the treason for Trump, namely negotiating with Russia in December before his administration started then lying about it to the FBI.

The Biden’s did no such thing and your multiple investigations have found zero evidence of any payoffs nor a single time Biden changed policy to help China, that was Don and Ivanka who were given millions in patents then the next morning changed policy to favor China, then were gifted more million dollar patents. You can’t point to any untoward or even questionable payment after 4 full years of investigations. At best you just refuse to hear the verified explanations and make up crimes.

Trump lost jobs. He left a negative gdp and recession. Shelves went bare under the felon. Over 1 million Americans died due to his policy according to his own CDC. He added more to the debt and deficit in one term than any listed president did in two. The wannabe dictator left the nation more divided than any time since the 1850s and continues to sew division constantly. Trump was worse than any you listed by any measure. You simply deny the facts.

Nice pedophile fantasy you have there, every accusation is an admission, but not smart especially since Trump definitely fucked his daughter and has bragged about it publicly for decades, Barron is definitely her son, the resemblance is there but not with Melania. Trump is on the Epstein list more than anyone else but Maxwell who he still wishes well…know who isn’t? Biden. Trump is an adjudicated rapist with now 40 accusers. Know who isn’t? One has 34 felony convictions…which one was that? 😂

BTW- the first few post debate polls are out…Biden gained a few points after the debate. Enjoy!

bobknight33 said:

The Russia hoax was just that. Bought and paid for by hilly Clinton, and she got fined for mishandling the payment .

The Laptop IS real. The diary is real

The Economy did get better.
Michael Flynn took a shit deal. along with all the others

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Biden sold America to China and Ukraine and lined the pockets of himself and his family.

Trump still a better POTUS than OBAMA, Biden or wannabee Clinton.

Joe showered with his daughter. Pedophile Joe is your man.

Vox S1E24: The awkward debate around Trump's mental fitness

newtboy says...

Trump said he thinks NATO pays America. He said he got other countries to pay their dues which went to America.
NATO doesn’t have dues, members agree to fund their defense to a certain percentage of their GDP…2%. He didn’t get members to pay their dues, nor did America get a dime, he got some members to agree in principal to 2% defense spending again…have they done it though?
Does it bother you that he either doesn’t understand NATO or is blatantly lying about it for likes? Doubt it.

Trump said to inject bleach and shove a light bulb in your ass to fight covid.
Nuff said.

Trump is as dull as a knife made of jello…but he always has been so it’s not a noticeable decline. Trump’s performance was also abysmal…his answers either off topic or blatant lies…or both.
Biden looked bad, I can and do admit it, Trump IS bad…to the core. There’s the distinction.

bobknight33 said:

The awkward debate around Biden,s mental fitness

6 years later and Trump is sharp as a tack and POTUS Biden marbles are gone..

Joe was so bad during the Biden Trump POTUS debate even CNN, MSNBC said it time to replace Joe for 2024 .

Biden Brings Felon On Stage

newtboy says...

I watched enough.

You don’t win a debate by lying. You win by telling the truth and backing it with facts.

Biden won the debate, but lost the campaign commercial-off. He did not “perform” well, he showed his age (a full 3 years older than his opponent) he was hoarse, and he stuttered. He did not seem like he’s ready for another 4 years of a difficult job (allegedly because he had a cold)…which was the point of the day.

The problem is most of America also wasn’t listening to the answers, they were judging the vitality of the candidates. By that measure, Biden lost (slightly, Trump’s fact free rambling was also incoherent at times) but angry lying grandpa in fact lost the DEBATE because he is wrong on the facts, but he looked better doing it.

In fact, Biden won the debate, but I don’t dispute that Trump won the night.
Understand?

bcglorf said:

@newtboy,

Did you watch the debate? Biden lost. Trump is a lying, criminal traitor and by far the worst possible choice for president. Within this debate though, Biden came out weak, incoherent, reactive and worst of all seemed lost and couldn't even finish his first response because he forget what the point he was trying to make. Biden looked like a man who's memory or capacity has been taken from him by age in a terrible way, while Trump was comparatively articulate, on point and focused. That's how badly Biden flubbed this.

Biden's performance was a disaster. Trump is still without doubt the worst possible choice for President, but Biden's campaign did Trump a huge favour with this debate performance.

Biden Brings Felon On Stage

bcglorf says...

@bobknight33

Biden crushingly lost the debate....

But that doesn't make Trump's lies true. It doesn't make Trump the better candidate.

Trumps "Russia, Russia, Russia" lie like the entire investigation into him was a hoax is only one of many things that should disqualify him for office. Not just that he's lying about the investigation, but because of the revelations of the investigation itself. The reality of the investigation is SO bad for him that he has to just declare an alternate reality where it's all a lie.

The truth though is that 34 people were indicted as a result of the investigation into the Trump campaign embracing Russian support. 8 of those have plead guilty or been convicted.

The reality got much worse though, as many of those from Trump's campaign were convicted of obstruction of justice, perjury and witness tampering. In return for their committing crimes to cover other crimes, Trump went ahead and granted them pardons... It's beyond imagination.

That's not the bottom though, there is no bottom. Michael Flynn was one of Trump's loyalists that plead guilty to perjury to protect Trump and thus earned a pardon from Trump. After being pardoned Flynn came back to show his continued loyalty to Trump, and after Trump lost the election, promoted a plan for Trump to declare a national emergency, implement martial law, declare the results of the election irrecoverable and initiate a new election vote this time conducted by the military.

So on seeing that plan promoted, Trump invited Flynn to the Whitehouse to advising sessions on handling the election loss...

There is NO bottom to where Trump will go. He's already a convicted felon, and has yet to be convicted or tried for the most egregious of the things he's done.

AND it is also try that he annihilated Biden in this debate.

Doesn't make him a better president.

Biden Brings Felon On Stage

bcglorf says...

@newtboy,

Did you watch the debate? Biden lost. Trump is a lying, criminal traitor and by far the worst possible choice for president. Within this debate though, Biden came out weak, incoherent, reactive and worst of all seemed lost and couldn't even finish his first response because he forget what the point he was trying to make. Biden looked like a man who's memory or capacity has been taken from him by age in a terrible way, while Trump was comparatively articulate, on point and focused. That's how badly Biden flubbed this.

Biden's performance was a disaster. Trump is still without doubt the worst possible choice for President, but Biden's campaign did Trump a huge favour with this debate performance.

Biden Brings Felon On Stage

newtboy says...

lol. You claim CNN states Biden lost but post a clip from the NYPost of him “hitting back” on his 36 felony convictions (and 50+ more charges) by pointing to Hunter’s 3. WHAT!? Does he know who the candidate is? 😂
Biden lost the fight for live fact checking, but that’s all he lost. Trump was his normal lying and ranting self. Tomorrow’s fact checking will show 90% of his statements were lies, but that doesn’t matter to you, we know, because you share his (total lack of) morals.
The choice is thriving democracy or crumbling despotic monarchy, and that’s no choice.
Biden wasn’t my choice for 2020, he wouldn’t be my first choice in 2024, but given the choice between him and a convicted felon whose second term will be a vitriolic and violent attack against half of America and may never end, I and tens of millions more would vote for Biden if he was drooling in his oatmeal incapable of speaking, and I’m certain it would be better for the country.

So sad…just grasping at nothing in desperation. It’s ok…we all know who you’re voting for, and we all know better.

bobknight33 said:

CNN states Biden lost the debate. Even they turned on Joe.

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newtboy says...

The economic numbers are so amazing that the world bank recently said the American booming economy is almost single handedly stabilizing the entire world economy.

Your dream of a failing economy like your convicted felon and rapist candidate and disgraced ex president has failed, the economy has never been better. The market continues to hit record highs, unemployment remains at record lows, inflation is at zero for months, wages are still rising fast. You can’t lie fast or convincing enough to contradict the reality that the Biden economy is the envy of the world.

BTW- the deficit under Biden has been half what it was under the felon…$4.3 T vs $9 T…with $2.2 T being infrastructure investments in America. $2 T in deficit reduction under Biden vs $440 billion.

Many Americans have not yet recovered from 2020 when your guy drove us off a cliff, crashed the market, destroyed jobs, completely erased the economy to a negative gdp, ignored long term supply chain failures, and oversaw the biggest jump in crime rates in my lifetime, etc.

Suck it!

Surprising, but fun! Your team lost in the Supreme Court…red states cannot sue the federal government when the fed asks social media companies to police dangerous lies. Red state governors had sued the Biden administration because Twitter downgraded their disinformation campaigns, fighting all the way to the top to protect their right to lie to you without contradiction, correction, or comeuppance. They lost. Not good news for your guys campaigns that rely on misinformation to mislead voters into voting for them.

Suck it again. 😂

Sadly the maga court just legalized bribery so long as the payment comes AFTER the corrupt act. No surprise, two of the six were guilty of bribery under the near 40 year old anti corruption law they struck down. America can suck it again, says maga.
The same corrupt court accidentally released their decision about emergency abortions in Idaho. Alito again? The corruption and incompetence increase daily.

bobknight33 said:

If The economic numbers are all amazing, then why are so many Americans BROKE?

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newtboy says...

Uh oh….leaked transcripts of the felon’s lawyer’s notes show he knew for certain having the stolen classified documents was a crime and repeatedly tried to get his layer to go along with lying to the DOJ and saying repeatedly “wouldn’t it be better if there are no documents” “shouldn’t we just say there are no documents” “wouldn’t turning over the documents open me up to prosecution or more searches”.
Blows up his “I didn’t know stealing classified state secrets and keeping them in rooms open to the public and lying to theDOJ and FBI about it was wrong” defense…not that that would be a defense in any unbiased court…but he’s got Cannon so it’s a tossup.

27 Bubbles About to Pop

newtboy jokingly says...

Trying to set up an excuse for why the economy tanks if President Biden loses.

I would point out his instant insanity claiming Nvidia has 10% of the nation’s GDP…Nvidia’s market share is in fact under .1% of the US GDP ($26 Trillion) at $26 billion. Also his claim the market is down, it’s at record highs and staying there for a record time period.

This is utter nonsensical bullshit from idiots and liars who only fool completely ignorant idiots like our buddy Bob, who buys every stupid lie the right sells him and never looks at reality.

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

It’s about you….

Yes, you utter moron.
“White guy uses 10 black employees to pretend he has black friends” is racist.
Slave owners “hired” thousands. Racist often hire minorities, then abuse them, overwork them in untenable conditions, force them to do things against their own communities like this staged fake photo, and usually under pay or simply don’t pay them. Are you really so clueless you don’t know that? 😂
Your ilk says slavery was a good thing for Africans, pretending they didn’t have lives, families, and professions in their homeland and learning to drive a plow horse is fair compensation for enslaving them and theirs for multiple lifetimes….and you convince yourself that’s not racist.
You should be enslaved and taught the invaluable skill of mucking out septic tanks by hand…maybe your great great grandchild can use that skill to make a living, so it’s a boon for you.

He (well, his sub-organization, I’m certain he doesn’t interview black applicants himself) hires them as cover…to use as photo ops like this and cover for his constant outrageous racism. He claimed these were his “black friends”, they are not, they are his “black employees”. Paid actors pretending to be his friends for cash, you brain dead slug. SHOCKER! You don’t see the difference when they’re subhuman minorities….stooping to be near them is saintly and makes Kirk a good man despite his constant blatant outrageous public racism….just like the Convicted Felon and Rapist.

If President Biden’s campaign tried this you would be screaming “RACISM” at the top of your lungs until mid November, we both know it’s true, but because it’s true I expect you won’t admit it, maybe even to yourself. Biden’s campaign would NEVER do this though, because he HAS supported the black community consistently and he has their REAL support, not just some paid political actors, not just rented “black churches with felonious pastors filled with old white racists wearing “blacks for Trump” shirts. 😂

10 (some temporary) employees out of an organization of tens of thousands dedicated to a blatant racist agenda. Most are employees of Blexit, the Turning Point USA funded, Candice Owens run attempt to turn minorities away from Democrats using lies and intimidation (so she hired them, not him). It’s a failure.
The point being these are employees he tried to pretend are his personal friends because in reality he has ZERO BLACK FRIENDS because he is a complete 100% racist, unapologetically, I don’t know why you would pretend otherwise, he’s pretty open and up front about it.
This just reminds us of ALL the fake “outreach” Maga has done, all the photo ops that end up being paid operatives pretending to be random strangers over and over and over and over again, which every time remind us how little support maga has among minorities and exactly why that is the case. It’s hilarious to watch you deny decades of blatant racism because now you NEED the black communities support. It’s not coming, they also see through the stupid denials and constant projection.

MAGA is racist because maggots are racists who believe in white Christian nationalism which is a racist movement intended to strip all rights from all who are not white christian men.

Kirk leads a white Christian nationalist movement….you dimwit.

How’s your Trump Media stock doing? How about your “all in at $400 a share” Tesla stock?

bobknight33 said:

Lets see White guy hires 10 black guys and that is racist?


Democrats are the racist because everything to them are racist.


bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Sucker!
Proof at 1:15


Another fake, just like the fake of President Biden pausing mid sit where the audio was altered so you don’t hear he was listening to an announcement to see if he should remain standing…or the Normandy fake where the paratrooper was removed from the clip to make it appear he wanders alone into a field because he’s lost, not talking to a paratrooper who just landed.

You have to produce these fake videos because the real President Biden is in good shape mentally and physically unlike the diapered felon who meth rages every morning at 3am and needs his team to spend every day doing damage control over his tantrums, lies, and ridiculous accusations that are always admissions (he has no imagination so when he wants to make a claim about someone he just thinks of something he’s been attacked for or that he knows is wrong and accuses them).

Democrats don’t have to fake videos or make up lies about the Felon, his actions are disgusting and illegal enough, actually so bad many won’t believe he could really be so disgusting, such a long term public pedophile, such a business fraud, so incredibly unreligious, so outrageously anti democratic, and ALWAYS SO HIGHLY ILLEGAL.

This felon and rapist is you guy, this you pick…he is the absolute best maga has, and he will soon be a prisoner. Note, this means you see yourself as worse than a felonious rapist, business fraud, charity fraud, constant liar, and public pedophile because you obviously see him as your better.

If you were a real man with any honor, you would kill your self for being such a worthless tool spreading these anti American lies, but you are an infant that doesn’t understand the concept of honor or truth so you think nothing of it.

PS- Convicted felon Bannon is being sent to Danberry…not a club Fed prison! This is because he has other cases. Who else has other cases but is about to be sentenced to Rykers Island? 😂

PPS- Gaetz is now under investigation for sex with minors and child sex trafficking, drug use (and transportation across state lines so drug trafficking), abusing his authority to dispense political favors to friends, and obstruction of official investigations (including this one). I guess that means he’s ineligible to run for office just like Hillary was, right? 😂

Bonus- Trump Media is in total freefall, dropping another $5 to hit $30 this morning and still plunging. I think it burned through all its cash reserves and may fold soon, bringing it to $0. Congratulations, another total failure. Maybe he can get another savior loan from another Russian oligarch through the Dominican Republic like last time…oh wait, Russia has no money thanks to strong Biden sanctions that have completely decimated their economy…sorry Charlie!
His properties values are also plunging because his name is toxic, so much his bond may become invalid again!

bobknight33 said:

Do you really think the Dem party wont replace Biden?



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newtboy says...

You are not only unbelievably stupid, you are also a constant liar.

1:15 is your proof it’s another fake video…I’m certain this proof AGAIN (not the first time) won’t penetrate the rectal shield you use to protect you from facts and you will continue to spread this lie just like all the other disproven lies you spout daily. If you told the truth just once, you would burst into flames….at least that’s how you live your life.


bobknight33 said:

You are stupid you know.

True video, not fake.

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newtboy says...

Thank you for admitting the well known blatantly fraudulent fake you just tried to pass as fact.

Yes. Another Fake. Another fraud you try to disguise as a fact.

What you never seem to realize is every time you get behind one of these fake stories (which is constantly) what you are really saying is you have no real argument so you are forced to make up nonsense. Every time you doctor a video to make President Biden look unfit you admit he actually is fit. It’s an admission of the total failure of your position….something you would never intentionally do no matter how badly your position had failed, but a message you send daily by relying on lies and fraud to make your position.

It’s fake because it is not a payoff like is suggested and is what the President denied, but income/growth from declared 100% legal INVESTMENTS in Chinese companies with his 100% legitimate international investment company, again, not direct payments from them.
If making money from foreign investments is suddenly going to be considered illegal or immoral, let’s start with whales who directly and demonstrably sold policy for billions before going after minnows who made millions through investments with no policy involved. Who made billions from foreign powers again? Who directly made hundreds of millions directly from hostile governments like China while in office? (Rented unused space in his buildings for years, then cancelled the leas when he lost.). Who changed US policy to benefit the same governments?
Another long ago debunked talking point that’s really an admission disguised as an accusation, more fake news like every single thing you believe.

Notice he was not prosecuted for unreported income from foreign governments, nor was he charged with not reporting himself as a foreign agent…unlike dozens of maga officials and Trump family members. Barr spent 4 years investigating every detail of his finances and came up with nothing.

It’s also fake because it attempts to paint the father with the imagined sins of the son, which is nonsense.

It’s also hilarious because it reminds us that Trumps family DID have direct payments from hostile foreign governments after changing American international policy to benefit those governments to the tune of $3.5 billion, a verified fact unlike the lie that China paid Hunter $3 billion, or that President Biden ever changed any U.S. policy after a payment. Neither has been verified by a scintilla of evidence because neither happened.

Everything you believe is nonsense, because you bought every lie told by the lie machine for the last 8 years.
Every, single, one.

In New Hampshire disgraced felon Trump once again demanded that “President Obama immediately resign”. He STILL thinks Obama is president, it is not a joke, it is not reference to his claim that Obama pulls the strings, it is his tiny feeble brain melting under the pressure. He knows it makes him look like he’s in full blown dementia, but he keeps on doing it. Are you gullible enough to believe it’s on purpose, and if so isn’t that also an indication of dementia?

bobknight33 said:

Is this "fake" also?




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