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When bullied kids snap...

dag says...

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Well, I don't know about you, but I'm starting with the man in the mirror - I'm asking him to change his ways - and no message could have been any clearer - if You wanna make the world a better place, don't glorify a picked on kid who body slams another dweeby kid.

>> ^draak13:

Spoco et al keeps posting that this kind of situation shouldn't happen, that both sides are bad in this fight, and that we need to address the social and societal issues that lead to this event. However, that's where it stops; the social and societal issues are never addressed, but merely stated in paraphrase that, 'the social atmosphere is bad, shame on you for contributing to the problem.' I see no offering for a social or societal resolution that would prevent a situation like this.
If you think the solution to this problem is to have all of the onlookers come out and try to break things up, then why don't you go dress up in a scuba suit and call yourself kickass. I don't think the world works that way.
Really, I challenge and beg any poster for a solution that would actually work. If you're going to call shame on the people who have condoned the actions witnessed in this video, back up your claim to a better world by offering some preventative resolution, and then we'll actually have something to discuss.
>> ^dag:
Count me with Spoco et al on this one. It's natural for us to cheer for a Kenny Rogers Coward of the County type outcome - but really you don't want this situation to happen in the first place. You also need to think of what has led to this situation. Here's what I know for a fact:

  • The little bully's dad works at a bakery for minimum wage and has to get up at 4 AM to get to work.
  • the little bully's dad is also an alcoholic and his mom left the family at age 2, he hardly remembers her anymore. The little bully is in charge of waking up his dad at 3:30 to get over his hangover and make it to work. The little bully makes his dad's breakfast, and both of their lunches before he walks by himself to school
  • The little bully keeps a shopping list his mom wrote the week before she left the family. It's the only evidence he has that she ever existed.
    OK, I just made all of that up. But my point is, that this kid is a human being who is a product of all kinds of influences that are out of his control. Calling him a "little shit" is objectification that does nothing to solve the societal problems that create kids like this. And no, he's not completely responsible for his actions as a 13 year old- there's a reason we don't send kids to prison.



  • When bullied kids snap...

    draak13 says...

    Spoco et al keeps posting that this kind of situation shouldn't happen, that both sides are bad in this fight, and that we need to address the social and societal issues that lead to this event. However, that's where it stops; the social and societal issues are never addressed, but merely stated in paraphrase that, 'the social atmosphere is bad, shame on you for contributing to the problem.' I see no offering for a social or societal resolution that would prevent a situation like this.

    If you think the solution to this problem is to have all of the onlookers come out and try to break things up, then why don't you go dress up in a scuba suit and call yourself kickass. I don't think the world works that way.

    Really, I challenge and beg any poster for a solution that would actually work. If you're going to call shame on the people who have condoned the actions witnessed in this video, back up your claim to a better world by offering some preventative resolution, and then we'll actually have something to discuss.

    >> ^dag:

    Count me with Spoco et al on this one. It's natural for us to cheer for a Kenny Rogers Coward of the County type outcome - but really you don't want this situation to happen in the first place. You also need to think of what has led to this situation. Here's what I know for a fact:

  • The little bully's dad works at a bakery for minimum wage and has to get up at 4 AM to get to work.
  • the little bully's dad is also an alcoholic and his mom left the family at age 2, he hardly remembers her anymore. The little bully is in charge of waking up his dad at 3:30 to get over his hangover and make it to work. The little bully makes his dad's breakfast, and both of their lunches before he walks by himself to school
  • The little bully keeps a shopping list his mom wrote the week before she left the family. It's the only evidence he has that she ever existed.
    OK, I just made all of that up. But my point is, that this kid is a human being who is a product of all kinds of influences that are out of his control. Calling him a "little shit" is objectification that does nothing to solve the societal problems that create kids like this. And no, he's not completely responsible for his actions as a 13 year old- there's a reason we don't send kids to prison.


  • When bullied kids snap...

    dag says...

    Comment hidden because you are ignoring dag. (show it anyway)

    Count me with Spoco et al on this one. It's natural for us to cheer for a Kenny Rogers Coward of the County type outcome - but really you don't want this situation to happen in the first place. You also need to think of what has led to this situation. Here's what I know for a fact:

  • The little bully's dad works at a bakery for minimum wage and has to get up at 4 AM to get to work.
  • the little bully's dad is also an alcoholic and his mom left the family at age 2, he hardly remembers her anymore. The little bully is in charge of waking up his dad at 3:30 to get over his hangover and make it to work. The little bully makes his dad's breakfast, and both of their lunches before he walks by himself to school
  • The little bully keeps a shopping list his mom wrote the week before she left the family. It's the only evidence he has that she ever existed.

    OK, I just made all of that up. But my point is, that this kid is a human being who is a product of all kinds of influences that are out of his control. Calling him a "little shit" is objectification that does nothing to solve the societal problems that create kids like this. And no, he's not completely responsible for his actions as a 13 year old- there's a reason we don't send kids to prison.

  • Penguin Leap of Faith

    Opus_Moderandi says...

    >> ^shewbox:

    The music is by Vangelis, from the movie Chariots of fire actually. But yeah, Enya can be pretty cheesy too.
    >> ^Opus_Moderandi:
    >> ^harry:
    That must be the cheesiest piece of music ever written.

    You've never heard Enya?



    Yeah, I know who and where the music came from but, wasn't so sure it was the cheesiest. And I had a hard time deciding between Enya or Kenny G. Both of whom I believe are cheesier than Vangelis.

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    pho3n1x says...

    http://www.boingboing.net/2010/08/24/internet-finds-cat-t.html

    4chan found them. specifically /b/. i've said it before and i'll say it again... don't fuck with /b/ or the things they hold dear (the internet loves cats)... kenny the cat abuser found this out the hard way, that brain-slushie girl found it out the hard way, and now this woman...

    "Often dismissed as little more than a gang of anonymous bullies, there is some truth to the notion that the site is simultaneously the best and worst of the internet, and that when they put their collective minds together, there is no stopping them."

    Just sayin'...


    "(...) Of course if someone would just post this on 4chan, this woman would probably be tracked down in about an hour." -shponglefan

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