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David Mitchell on The Wealth of Footballers

David Mitchell on The Wealth of Footballers

Deano says...

>> ^Quboid:

That's 3 names. How many professional footballers are there? This are young men with a lot of money. Of course some will do stupid things. Joey Barton? Why do you think he's stupid? He's a pretentious, self-righteous hypocrite, but none of those mean he's stupid.
Being thick isn't the same as being uneducated. They aren't well educated but this is because they went into football, not because they couldn't handle it. Quite a few have got degrees in their plentiful spare time while playing.
Of course foreigners can be twits. That you would imply I'd think otherwise is what I mean, this idea that footballers, especially British footballers, are uniquely thick.
Why do I think they are probably above average? Because if you have two players of equal technical ability, strength, fitness, etc, the one who is smarter will generally do better and therefore play in a higher standard of league. Egro, the smart rise to the top. Since intelligence isn't a particularly important part of football, the effect this has will be small, it still exists.
Charlie Adam is rubbish, I'll give you that.


How many names am I supposed to give you? Is there a specific number that should convince you? Put it like this ff you were mining the wisdom of crowds they'd be the last crowd you'd go with.

A lack of education, also known as ignorance and poor critical thinking is linked to lack of comprehension and the wider phenomenon of stupidity.

You're incorrect about intelligence being a differentiator on the field. The number one characteristic coaches look for is attitude. Players with an intense competitive desire and a controllable amount of aggression WITH talent are the ones who make it.

Off the pitch, being able to make smart decisions about contracts, sponsorship is where you'd be right. Actually maybe that means Beckham is a genius and I'm totally wrong! Or maybe he's well advised.

I always admired Klinnsman in that regard. If you forgot the diving you might recall he sorted out his own contract and only hired a lawyer and an accountant. The value of an education there is that you actually eke out a bit more money over the long term.

As for Barton his propensity for violence suggests he's not the poster boy for the football intelligentsia. I know he's been working via twitter to build a different kind of reputation but I'm yet to be convinced. It's amazing what you can cut and paste on the web.

David Mitchell on The Wealth of Footballers

Quboid says...

That's 3 names. How many professional footballers are there? This are young men with a lot of money. Of course some will do stupid things. Joey Barton? Why do you think he's stupid? He's a pretentious, self-righteous hypocrite, but none of those mean he's stupid.

Being thick isn't the same as being uneducated. They aren't well educated but this is because they went into football, not because they couldn't handle it. Quite a few have got degrees in their plentiful spare time while playing.

Of course foreigners can be twits. That you would imply I'd think otherwise is what I mean, this idea that footballers, especially British footballers, are uniquely thick.

Why do I think they are probably above average? Because if you have two players of equal technical ability, strength, fitness, etc, the one who is smarter will generally do better and therefore play in a higher standard of league. Egro, the smart rise to the top. Since intelligence isn't a particularly important part of football, the effect this has will be small, but it still exists.

Charlie Adam is rubbish, I'll give you that.

David Mitchell on The Wealth of Footballers

Deano says...

>> ^Quboid:

I like the line "who apparently are both billionaires and brain-dead". It bugs me that footballers are labelled thick, as if you have to be thick to get paid well over £1,000,000 a year. I know Mitchell has no interest in football, but he's a bright guy and I'm pretty sure he meant this sardonically. He's got to know better, even if much of the general population falls for this cliché.
Of course some footballers are thick, but on the whole, I'd guess top footballers are on average more intelligent than most.
The reason they aren't hated is because they're not responsible for wreaking the economy.


I can only speak from my knowledge of English football but most footballers aren't especially bright. To earn large amounts of money in the game you have to be good at football and many are, apart from Charlie Adam. Most skipped further education and signed on with professional clubs at a young age or flitted around until they failed to make the grade.
Regardless, their working class backgrounds probably meant there wasn't much of a history of outstanding educational achievement. As soon as the talent is evident the desire to balance sporting and academic achievement evaporates.

I have no idea why you'd think that "top" footballers would be more intelligent on average. Than whom? The entire population? I'd guess their football intelligence is better.

Even the foreigners are capable of acting like twits. Apparently Bendtner's got off today on vandalising cars with Lee Catermole, Meanwhile Ricardo Fuller was sent off over the weekend for violent conduct (again) which his manager labelled "stupid" and my favourite player Balotelli indulged in a series of pretty dumb stunts all season long. They all earn incredible amounts of money and don't act in a way that is consistent or respectful of the rather sweet lifestyles they've landed.

Yes it's always silly to generalise but as a group they don't veer towards smart cookie territory. For example I give you David Beckham, the popular Joey Barton and possibly the most inept in the brain department Wayne Rooney.

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Joey Quits His Job like a Boss!

Joey Quits His Job like a Boss!

punisher says...

>> ^Sagemind:
3 Days without a "Lost Time Accident"
What does this mean?
Are they more concerned with the lost productivity when someone gets hurt as opposed to concern with a hurt employee?
"Oh my god he hurt himself, quick, what do we do, the clock is ticking! We have to get him working again. $tick, $tick, $tick... Quick, stop that bleeding and put a pen in his hand or something. We can't pay him for just laying there - get him up...."


This is common in a lot of places.. Accidents happen all the time... stubbed toes, cuts, etc....
The longer a place goes without a lost time accident, IE: big injuries that cause people to be out of work, the safer it is considered...

dag (Member Profile)

Joey Quits His Job like a Boss!

Joey Quits His Job like a Boss!

Joey Quits His Job like a Boss!

ChaosEngine says...

>> ^dag:

The revolution will be sifted.

There will be no pictures of pigs shooting down
brothers in the instant replay.
There will be no pictures of pigs shooting down
brothers in the instant replay.
There will be no pictures of Quantum Mushroom being
run out of Harlem on a rail with a brand new process.
There will be no slow motion or still life of dystopianfuturetoday
strolling through Watts in a Red, Black and
Green liberation jumpsuit that he had been saving
For just the proper occasion.

The Daily Show, David after the dentist, and Ron Paul
will no longer be so damned relevant, and
women will not care if blankfist finally gets down with
bareboards2 on Search for Tomorrow because everybody
will be in the street looking for a brighter day.
The revolution will not be sifted.

There will be no highlights on the eleven o'clock
news and no pictures of hairy armed women
liberationists and IssyKitty blowing her nose.
The theme song will not be written by Dag,
hphq, nor sung by Zifnab, Ant, Netrunner, gwiz665, or Keyboard cat.
The revolution will not be sifted.

Joey Quits His Job like a Boss!

poolcleaner says...

>> ^JiggaJonson:

>> ^Fusionaut:
I love how the boss showed what a douche he was, and why Joey was quitting, right before the band started playing.

Yeah, so douchey to want to remove a random group of people from an obvious employee only area... If I were a hotel guest and a marching band stormed through in the middle of the night, I would have no complaints at all.
The nerve of some people for wanting to keep the peace in a place of business. sticks nose up


Hypothetically, what is enough awesome to remove the stick from his or other similar asses?

Joey Quits His Job like a Boss!

alien_concept says...

>> ^JiggaJonson:

>> ^Fusionaut:
I love how the boss showed what a douche he was, and why Joey was quitting, right before the band started playing.

Yeah, so douchey to want to remove a random group of people from an obvious employee only area... If I were a hotel guest and a marching band stormed through in the middle of the night, I would have no complaints at all.
The nerve of some people for wanting to keep the peace in a place of business. sticks nose up


Yes but he didn't even crack a smile, he was an ungracious mean man!



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