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Chris Rock - "White People Got Less Crazy"

dannym3141 says...

>> ^xxovercastxx:

3. advancement in general.
4. growth or development; continuous improvement
Context be damned!
His point is that it's often presented as if blacks have finally come around and are living up to our ideals, as if they've progressed to the point where white people no longer find it necessary to beat, enslave, lynch and oppress them. The truth is, whites have finally come around and stopped treating Blacks like shit. Whites are the ones who've made progress, as we've learned to treat blacks like other people.
>> ^dannym3141:
Progress:
–noun
1.
a movement toward a goal or to a further or higher stage:
"the progress of a student toward a degree."
"the progress of the sun across the sky."
--ion "the progression of time."
Sorry, has to be a downvote. He's associating negative emotional connotation with a word which just doesn't deserve it. There HAS been progress. If black people were even more segregated than they were in 1930, that would also be a form of progress. However, the goal was set by martin luther himself - equality. Progress has been made towards that goal.
Contrary to your opinion, i would say this video is a bad point well made. It must be well made if he managed to convince people into a false definition of a word everyone knows!
Toss emotion regarding race issues aside for one moment when reading my post, please.
Edit: Love chris rock by the way, but this is just nonsense. The word "progress" does not imply that the situation progressed from was a rational situation.



The words that you put into his mouth reach the point he was failing to make very well. I actually think YOU are missing the context of the definition. The advancement means "advancement" towards a goal. The "development" is development towards a goal. (see my original comment) I'm still not buying this emotional connotation that "progress" means "moving away from something we consider bad".

You know cancer progresses, right? This is an emotional connotation that he is affixing and then attacking. If he's referring to people who consider "progress" to mean something different to its actual definition as he describes it, then at least he could say that's who he's addressing?

Chris Rock - "White People Got Less Crazy"

xxovercastxx says...

3. advancement in general.
4. growth or development; continuous improvement

Context be damned!

His point is that it's often presented as if blacks have finally come around and are living up to our ideals, as if they've progressed to the point where white people no longer find it necessary to beat, enslave, lynch and oppress them. The truth is, whites have finally come around and stopped treating Blacks like shit. Whites are the ones who've made progress, as we've learned to treat blacks like other people.

>> ^dannym3141:

Progress:
–noun
1.
a movement toward a goal or to a further or higher stage:
"the progress of a student toward a degree."
"the progress of the sun across the sky."
--ion "the progression of time."
Sorry, has to be a downvote. He's associating negative emotional connotation with a word which just doesn't deserve it. There HAS been progress. If black people were even more segregated than they were in 1930, that would also be a form of progress. However, the goal was set by martin luther himself - equality. Progress has been made towards that goal.
Contrary to your opinion, i would say this video is a bad point well made. It must be well made if he managed to convince people into a false definition of a word everyone knows!
Toss emotion regarding race issues aside for one moment when reading my post, please.
Edit: Love chris rock by the way, but this is just nonsense. The word "progress" does not imply that the situation progressed from was a rational situation.

Chris Rock - "White People Got Less Crazy"

dannym3141 says...

>> ^CircleMaker:

>> ^dannym3141:
Progress:
–noun
1.
a movement toward a goal or to a further or higher stage:
"the progress of a student toward a degree."
"the progress of the sun across the sky."
--ion "the progression of time."
Sorry, has to be a downvote. He's associating negative emotional connotation with a word which just doesn't deserve it. There HAS been progress. If black people were even more segregated than they were in 1930, that would also be a form of progress. However, the goal was set by martin luther himself - equality. Progress has been made towards that goal.
Contrary to your opinion, i would say this video is a bad point well made. It must be well made if he managed to convince people into a false definition of a word everyone knows!
Toss emotion regarding race issues aside for one moment when reading my post, please.
Edit: Love chris rock by the way, but this is just nonsense. The word "progress" does not imply that the situation progressed from was a rational situation.

I get what you're saying, but I think Chris Rock was using the word 'progress' to mean 'get better than you were before.' In that light, it's really whites that have progressed, beyond Jim Crow laws and lynch mobs. Black people have historically done a lot to help that process along, but they did not themselves undergo any change in thinking, akin to that which white people have since those days; they always saw unequal treatment as unfair, while their oppressors didn't progress to that point until more recently. At least that's my understanding of what he was saying, and I don't even know what documentary they're talking about.


I know he was using the word in that way, i'm explaining that he's wrong.

Chris Rock - "White People Got Less Crazy"

CircleMaker says...

>> ^dannym3141:

Progress:
–noun
1.
a movement toward a goal or to a further or higher stage:
"the progress of a student toward a degree."
"the progress of the sun across the sky."
--ion "the progression of time."
Sorry, has to be a downvote. He's associating negative emotional connotation with a word which just doesn't deserve it. There HAS been progress. If black people were even more segregated than they were in 1930, that would also be a form of progress. However, the goal was set by martin luther himself - equality. Progress has been made towards that goal.
Contrary to your opinion, i would say this video is a bad point well made. It must be well made if he managed to convince people into a false definition of a word everyone knows!
Toss emotion regarding race issues aside for one moment when reading my post, please.
Edit: Love chris rock by the way, but this is just nonsense. The word "progress" does not imply that the situation progressed from was a rational situation.


I get what you're saying, but I think Chris Rock was using the word 'progress' to mean 'get better than you were before.' In that light, it's really whites that have progressed, beyond Jim Crow laws and lynch mobs. Black people have historically done a lot to help that process along, but they did not themselves undergo any change in thinking, akin to that which white people have since those days; they always saw unequal treatment as unfair, while their oppressors didn't progress to that point until more recently. At least that's my understanding of what he was saying, and I don't even know what documentary they're talking about.

Chris Rock - "White People Got Less Crazy"

dannym3141 says...

Progress:
–noun
1.
a movement toward a goal or to a further or higher stage:
"the progress of a student toward a degree."
"the progress of the sun across the sky."
--ion "the progression of time."

Sorry, has to be a downvote. He's associating negative emotional connotation with a word which just doesn't deserve it. There HAS been progress. If black people were even more segregated than they were in 1930, that would also be a form of progress. However, the goal was set by martin luther himself - equality. Progress has been made towards that goal.

Contrary to your opinion, i would say this video is a bad point well made. It must be well made if he managed to convince people into a false definition of a word everyone knows!

Toss emotion regarding race issues aside for one moment when reading my post, please.

Edit: Love chris rock by the way, but this is just nonsense. The word "progress" does not imply that the situation progressed from was a rational situation.

CNN Says Wildlife Could Benefit From The Oil Spill...

westy says...

Well actually its not that crazy a story.

take chinoble for example the airea around there has done quite well , simply becuse the general shit humans do on a day to day bassis is far worse than what the radation has done , so annything that makes humans piss off can be quite good.


arguably the same thing might happen for fish in golf coast granted some specaies of bird fish and sea life will die and be badly effected , but others that were getting raped by all the fishing might flurish due to the lack of human involvment in the airea.


allthough its likely humans will make things still worse by using checmicals to disperese the ion that in th elong run have a worse effect on the enviroment than the iol on its own.

Top 10 Videogames Biggest Busts

Croccydile says...

John Romero was a good map designer but the real skills were from John Carmack who was at the forefront of game engine design in the 90s. Oh, and Ion Storm was the epitome of excess with throwing money at their lavish offices and the game itself and getting little in return.

I agree with #1 though, an even more ridiculous sum of money was tossed at the Gizmondo with investors duped into thinking they would have the next greatest thing on their hands. I believe they had tens of millions in debts when they were shuttered which is worse than the Ion Storm + 3D Realms cockup combined.

Duke Nukem Forever was already a joke status five years ago and I would be surprised if anyone ever took it seriously after that.

"Ion Propulsion" or "How Star Trek became realistic"

Get a job sparkling wiggle!

What smoking has become - the IT Crowd

Samaelsmith says...

>> ^demon_ix:
You do realize that in between breathing in fresh air, you're breathing in smoke, tar and nicotine?
I'm sorry, but that argument seemed too silly for me to ignore <IMG class=smiley src="http://static1.videosift.com/cdm/emoticon/wink.gif">
>> ^Samaelsmith:
It's also a good excuse to go outside and get some fresh air



Yeah, my girlfriend thinks I'm crazy too. There is a certain quality to outside air, whether it's ions or whatever, that is different than inside air. Even on a busy downtown street on a smoggy day there is a "freshness" to the air that indoors doesn't have. And I must emphasize that "fresh" air has absolutely nothing to do with "clean" air.

Even though I've been a non-smoker for long enough that my sense of smell has come back and I can more truly enjoy fresh air, I still miss sitting out on the porch and breathing in the cool night air. I know I could still do that but without a cigarette, I can't relax because my mind is constantly thinking that I shouldn't be sitting around doing nothing, I should go inside and do something.

Also, when I would go outside and take a deep breath of good clean air, my mind would think "Mmmm, delicious, a smoke would make it even better." Even I think that's ridiculous, but that's how it was.

Canadian TV Show Destroys a Snake Oil Salesman

Skeeve says...

Silver definitely has some medically useful effects, but nowhere near what this guy claims. In fact most heavy metals have an anti-biotic effect (called an oligodynamic effect). The reason why silver is used is because it is the least toxic to mammals. Specifically, silver ions irreversibly damage key enzyme systems in cells and in doing so kill most microorganisms. This is why you can find bandages and medical equipment that incorporates silver.

Colloidal solutions of silver, what this guy is selling, have never demonstrated the proposed curative effects in clinical studies, and have actually resulted in toxicity in a number of cases. There is no evidence that silver does anything medically except kill things (including the people who take it in large enough doses).

>> ^Throbbin:
All that aside, has anyone investigated the potential medicinal effects of silver? Reason says there's a 99% chance this guy is nuts. But anyone who has noticed the massive attention being paid to Vitamin D recently as the Vitamin that can cure anything in the 'Professional" medical community should also understand that if someone made those claims about Vitamin D 20 years ago, they'd be labelled a snake oil salesman too.

Steve Jobs announces the iPad

Croccydile says...

I guess I'm late to this party, but I'm also glad to see some Apple sensibility here for once.

I really do not get how Jobs disses netbooks and then introduces something that is almost twice the price with half the usefulness. I know half the Apple user crowd will buy this anyways, but I guess I will take solace that my netbook easily fits in a carry bag.

My mum has one of those Asus eeePC's as well and despite being a technophobe she absolutely adores it. It's not about how fancy it looks or what it is capable of, its about how goddamn convenient it can be. That is why netbooks stormed the industry despite the fact they have barely been out two years now!

A $329 netbook can get 10 hours of battery life, has a built in camera + microphone, usb ports for removable storage, built in memory card reader for MORE removable storage, physical keyboard, can do more than one thing at a time, run flash... and hell the latest ones can even decode HD video with that nVidia ION stuff.

The iPad just looks like an iPod touch for old people... think about those large sized remote controls.

Fusion is energy's future

GeeSussFreeK says...

Interesting. My knowledge on fusion is limited to the basic function of it. I know little to nothing about reaction fusion technology. My brain finds it hard to fathom that harnessing the power of the sun couldn't have volatile reputations. More over, IF one fails, the cost of fixing it and how regularly it would fail are questions that I think are valid. A power station going offline for a year isn't the answer to a power crisis really.

For me, I have always liked the KISS principle to energy. Many small manageable solutions. Granted, I think fusion reactor technology is still smart to look to, but only for our really cool space ships and ray guns (like an ion cannon to clear an escape from Hoth). In other words, there are most likely easier and safer, more reliably ways to get our power...right?

(what I mean basically is this seems like one of those things that will get here when it gets here...but for a good solution now, it is not that. And even when it gets here, it's going to take awhile to get all the kinks out. Solar and hydrogen fuel cells seem like a real solution now that is already very mature and fairly plug and play with current technology.)

>> ^Psychologic:
>> ^GeeSussFreeK:
The problem to me with a fusion plant is the energy density. If a catastrophe were to happen, how much of a city would go with it...or how much of a country? I have always liked the idea of everything being its own power station.

The danger of fission is radioactivity. All a "meltdown" does, as far as actual damage, is destroy the reactor. However, it can release radioactive isotopes into the environment, which brings enormous health risks. Fission is self-sustaining, so if the containment fails, the reaction can continue. It should also be noted that fission reactors are far safer today than they were in the past.
Fusion does not have this problem. If the system fails then the reaction stops. It might damage the reactor, but even if the magnet exploded (which would only be a local event) there would be no danger to the surrounding area. As far as I know, the only radiation threat would involve tritium, which is only one fuel method for fusion, and even then there would be far less danger than from a fission reaction.

Plasma Rocket

GeeSussFreeK says...

Ion rockets (they aren't really rockets, they are called ion thrusters) as they stand do not generate that much thrust. This is vastly different than an ion drive. The only function the magnetic field has in this drive is to focus what is a very traditional "jet stream" of superheated plasma out the tail. A ion drive uses the magnetic field to "push" off ions...very different concepts. The ion drive is great because the amount of fuel is needs is so minute...but thrust is also fairly pitiful.

(upon further reading, the best ion drive is about x2 less powerful than this particular drive. This particular drive is running at 59% efficiency. They have plans for a slightly larger rocket that is about 80% or so efficiency, which brings them up to about what a normal rocket efficiency is.)

Plasma Rocket



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