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Cost of living 2001 vs today

newtboy says...

Edit- heard the date wrong, a mistake you apparently didn’t notice despite me writing 2021, but he’s still grossly exaggerating. Inflation over the last 22 years is 75%+-, not over 140% as claimed. He doubled the true price rise.

My degree is in science, not math, so I would LOVE to have you explain the math for me. Please, enlighten me.

bobknight33 said:

Guess you don’t know about inflation or how to calculate it.

So much for your frivolous math degree

Yet again you fail.
When will you open your eyes


Dopey toolboy

Cost of living 2001 vs today

bobknight33 says...

Guess you don’t know about inflation or how to calculate it.

So much for your frivolous math degree

Yet again you fail.
When will you open your eyes


Dopey toolboy

newtboy said:

Totally *debunked *lies and bullshit. I saw this on YT and laughed at the stupidity.

1. That was not $89 worth of groceries in 2021. It was a minimum of $175 at full price. I buy groceries in California and I pay attention to prices.
Soda prices have actually gone down in California significantly since since the pandemic ended, so has milk and bacon.
More ridiculous MAGA lies.
He had to cherry pick non sale high price brands to make it that expensive…where’s the video of him buying the same brands not on sale two years ago at 1/2 the price?
Have prices gone up? yes….by 10-15% since 21, not 100%+. 🤦‍♂️

2. Who is the “they” who “printed $10 trillion” @bobknight33? It’s not the Biden administration. I know where at least $8 trillion went…and wouldn’t be a bit surprised to find another $2 trillion spent off the books by the former administration. In fact, if I recall the Trump billionaire tax cuts were expected to cost about $1 trillion per year indefinitely, while the tax vacation for wage earners ended with most paying far more today than pre-Trump….so you can blame almost $3 trillion of Biden’s debt on Trump policy. 😂

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

And….
Unemployment still 3.8%
MONTHLY inflation is at .5%. Yearly down to 3.7%…better not worse.
GDP at 4.9%! WAY better, not worse.
The fed stopped raising rates before you wrote this two months ago. That’s better, not worse.
Wages- Wages in the United States increased 5.31 percent in September of 2023 over the same month in the previous year. Wage Growth in the United States averaged 6.19 percent from 1960 until 2023, reaching an all time high of 15.28 percent in April of 2021 and a record low of -5.89 percent in April of 2020.
That’s better, not worse.
https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/wage-growth#:~:text=of%20Economic%20Analysis-,Wages%20in%20the%20United%20States%20increased%205.31%20perce
nt%20in%20September,percent%20in%20April%20of%202020.

Trump spent at more than double the rate Biden has, and lowered federal income by trillions…Biden’s spending is largely infrastructure investments (like roads, bridges, internet, etc) that historically pay off 100 fold in the long term, not handouts to billionaires that take the money offshore never to be seen again, or “walls” that are really useless fences that don’t slow the increasing undocumented immigration one bit. Biden’s spending is better for America, not worse.
Your point?

Keep fooling yourself, the proof is still in the numbers, and Bidenomics has turned the country around from the worst year in living memory in just about every way imaginable, Trump’s nightmarish 2020.

bobknight33 said:

3.8% unemployment will go up.
Inflation is not at 2.1% Going down yes but not at target.
FED still need to destroy jobs.
670K Full-Time Jobs Lost In 2 Months Vs 1 Million Part-Time Surge; Worst Unadjusted August Payrolls Since Great Recession.

Massive Government spending created this.

Keep fooling yourself . Biden economics are hurting Americans and it will get worse.

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

GDP AT 4.9% and rising
Unemployment at 3.8% and steady
Inflation at 3.7% and dropping

Sure sounds great. Maybe you don’t know what the word “great” means. 😂

Try asking Fox how it’s going….

bobknight33 said:

What idiotic puke are you spewing.

You get your information from the same rag that say Bidenomics is doing great.

Bidenomics is not great.

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

The exact idiotic puke Republicans are doing.

Nope, got it directly from the Republicans whose families have been targeted. 🤦‍♂️
Look at Don Bacon’s public statements and the messages sent to his wife. Or Representative Miller Meeks who put out a public letter after she received multiple credible death threats. Multiple others too. All terroristic threats coming from MAGA.

Bidenomics is great. Low unemployment, high gdp, now low inflation too. The deficit is lower under Biden by half. You need to do some serious mental gymnastics to believe it’s not doing well.

bobknight33 said:

What idiotic puke are you spewing.

You get your information from the same rag that say Bidenomics is doing great.

Bidenomics is not great.

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

@bobknight33… Still waiting.

Another month of 338000 new jobs, twice what was predicted.
Unemployment has still not gone up from 3.8% one bit.
Wages still rising twice the inflation rate or better.

Massive government investment in America despite near unanimous Republican opposition created this.

Keep lying to yourself, the economy is doing well despite repeated Republican attempts to sabotage it with “shutdowns”, and never forget what 2020 was…worst unemployment in living memory and worst gdp ever….Trump policy at work.

bobknight33 said:

3.8% unemployment will go up.
Inflation is not at 2.1% Going down yes but not at target.
FED still need to destroy jobs.
670K Full-Time Jobs Lost In 2 Months Vs 1 Million Part-Time Surge; Worst Unadjusted August Payrolls Since Great Recession.

Massive Government spending created this.

Keep fooling yourself . Biden economics are hurting Americans and it will get worse.

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

😂 You unbelievable ijit! 😂

I give you verified facts and figures…you scream “NOT!!” And send back randos whining on the interweb about low minimum wage high rent and fake food costs that all got much worse Jan 2017-2021. Typically, you have no facts or statistics to offer because they don’t support your position at all.

Whining about their low wages at entry level jobs, which is a thing conservatives fought hard to keep, never rising rock bottom low wages and ever increasing rent. Now you blame Biden for low minimum wages your party wants even lower and refuses to raise. Under Biden, wages are rising at 4.4%, double inflation and double the rate they increased under Trump, but now mostly at the low end instead of 99% of gains going to the top 1% and nothing (or cuts) to hourly workers under Trump. Profits are record setting too, driving a significant portion of inflation. 😂

Lying about $45 worth of food costing $100 (unless those drink cans are >$10 each not $2, the two old spices are $25, the hidden meat is filet mignon and another >$25 not $10 chicken, you pay $10 for fresh OJ not the $3 I pay, and the card has a gift card inside).

I live in rural Northern California, where everything is expensive…that’s well under $50 in groceries here. 😂 🤦‍♂️

Liars.

Bidenomics staved off a recession/depression everyone predicted after Trump, cut inflation faster than any other western country, raised wages twice as fast as conservatives targeting the low end, and created more jobs than the last 4 Republican presidents combined in 3 years, all while delivering record corporate profits and a strong market.
Trumpenomics was a disaster that lost 3 million jobs, lost actual earning capacity for most (wages rose slower than inflation), had the first ever negative gdp in our lifetimes, caused massive inflation, and lowered our national credit rating for the first time….failed on every metric used to gauge the economy.
And never forget he tried to end democracy, killed 1 million Americans, and IS A RAPIST.
Sleepy grandpa wiped the floor with him from his basement despite all your MAGA fervor and outrage. 😂

Thanks for the laughs. You liars are always hilarious when trying to make a point you know facts and reality don’t support.

bobknight33 said:

Bidenomics is GREAT! NOT

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

You’ve been saying that for what, at least 4 months… but really since Jan 21. Hasn’t happened, but sure as fuck did with your party in control. D’oh.

Trump created record setting unemployment levels…record HIGH unemployment.

(Adjusted) Inflation FOR THE LAST 3 MONTHS is 2.1%. For the year it’s 3.2%. I know reading comprehension is not a strong suit for you, but I spelled it out.

“Fed still need to destroy jobs”? Is this a prediction, or your theory? It’s so poorly written with such horrible grammar that it’s impossible to understand you.

More jobs were created than lost dummy…and good paying full time jobs. 13 million net jobs have been created under Biden, 3 million were LOST under Trump, the only modern president to lose jobs.

Massive government spending created the inflation…mostly under the previous administration that added $8 TRILLION to the debt in 4 years and dropped federal income significantly by letting billionaires pay less in taxes than fast food workers.

The economy is doing great. Inflation is low, wages are rising fast, unemployment is nothing, the market is booming, predictions for recession have evaporated and now they’re for a boom. Only morons that refuse to accept that a Democrat is better at the economy than conservative know nothings that refuse to admit it, but the numbers CONTINUE to bear it out despite your constant insistence it’s going to crash next week.

Tomorrow,tomorrow, we’ll go broke tomorrow, (but) it’s always a day away. -bob

Keep fooling yourself. Bidenomics is helping Americans and it’s getting better constantly. People who ignorantly believe what you say wouldn’t ever vote Democrat anyway, no matter what, but everyone else outside the cult sees reality and that’s great for the left and a disaster for bankrupt MAGA, especially next November.

bobknight33 said:

3.8% unemployment will go up.
Inflation is not at 2.1% Going down yes but not at target.
FED still need to destroy jobs.
670K Full-Time Jobs Lost In 2 Months Vs 1 Million Part-Time Surge; Worst Unadjusted August Payrolls Since Great Recession.

Massive Government spending created this.

Keep fooling yourself . Biden economics are hurting Americans and it will get worse.

newtboy (Member Profile)

bobknight33 says...

3.8% unemployment will go up.
Inflation is not at 2.1% Going down yes but not at target.
FED still need to destroy jobs.
670K Full-Time Jobs Lost In 2 Months Vs 1 Million Part-Time Surge; Worst Unadjusted August Payrolls Since Great Recession.

Massive Government spending created this.

Keep fooling yourself . Biden economics are hurting Americans and it will get worse.

newtboy said:

Now inflation is down to 2.1% over the last 3 months.
Yes, unemployment rose to a still rock bottom 3.8% despite 180000 jobs being created as people entered the workforce. That’s very healthy.
Wages are still rising, now at double the inflation rate, mostly at the bottom instead of the 1% that got all gains under Trump.

I guess I need to give it ANOTHER month, right? It’s all going to fall apart…you just know it! Trump said Biden has dementia, it’s not possible he’s far more competent than his predecessor. 😂

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Now inflation is down to 2.1% over the last 3 months.
Yes, unemployment rose to a still rock bottom 3.8% despite 180000 jobs being created as people entered the workforce. That’s very healthy.
Wages are still rising, now at double the inflation rate, mostly at the bottom instead of the 1% that got all gains under Trump.

I guess I need to give it ANOTHER month, right? It’s all going to fall apart…you just know it! Trump said Biden has dementia, it’s not possible he’s far more competent than his predecessor. 😂

newtboy said:

Still waiting. Unemployment went down to 3.5 in July, not up. Average hourly earnings rose 0.4% for the month, good for a 4.4% annual pace, both above expectations and inflation. When is this huge jump in unemployment and the market crash you predicted 3 1/2 months ago going to happen? 😂

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Trump just lost his $100 million defamation suit against his niece, 3 reporters, and The NY Times for exposing the decades of tax fraud he and his father engaged in to build their fortune (as well as redlining) that got them a Pulitzer. 😂

The suit was so frivolous he has to pay all their attorney fees because….get this…his lawsuit was trying to go after them for what is clearly PROTECTED FIRST AMENDMENT SPEECH! Trump absolutely HATES paying lawyers.

So much for his public (but not tried in court because it’s nonsense) defense that his trials are about first amendment protected speech which he reveres….but clearly only for himself.

At some point, he should realize he hasn’t won in court in years and isn’t going to win any of his criminal trials either. His lawyers are all getting disbarred and put in prison, which should be a good indicator of the quality of their legal advice. Never hire YES men to be your lawyers…often your lawyer’s job is to tell you NO!

As a bonus, filings indicate Trump inflated his net worth by 50%, but I think that’s minimizing his exaggeration since in some cases like Maralago he was claiming in sworn financial documents it was a single family residence he could sell for $750 million but in reality it’s valued by the county at $19 million and is only zoned as a social club, not a residence. D’oh! How funny will it be when he can’t come up with the $250 million judgement even after selling his interest in all his properties. He already can’t pay his criminal attorneys and judgements…he couldn’t even come up with $200k bail, he needed a bond!

As a second bonus, the case to disqualify him on the 14th in Michigan has been filed. It’s a winner. But by all means, don’t let that convince you to stop supporting him blindly. We want him to be the nominee, it’s a guaranteed sweep for Democrats if he is.

Proud Boy Joseph Biggs is going to be standing back and standing by for 17 years! He should have gotten 30 with a terrorism enhancement, but his Trump appointed judge felt sorry for him. Cried a river at sentencing. 😂

😂 In Trumps deposition in NY he blamed all the fraud his company committed on his son Eric (omitting Don Jr who was clearly in charge during his presidency)…not sure how he thinks that’s a defense, Eric and Don Jr only ran it (on paper) after 2017, but the crimes charged go back decades.
He said he just didn’t have time to run his businesses, but must have forgotten he had plenty of time to fly to different states (or countries) to play golf at least 298 times during his tenure (at a Cost to Taxpayers of About $144,000,000 according to the GAO)
So, he blames his dumb son for absolutely no defense, just as deflection that reminds everyone what an absentee “always on vacation” president he was. That’s the loyalty he has for others. This is you guy, this you pick.

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Still waiting. Unemployment went down to 3.5 in July, not up. Average hourly earnings rose 0.4% for the month, good for a 4.4% annual pace, both above expectations and inflation. When is this huge jump in unemployment and the market crash you predicted 3 1/2 months ago going to happen? 😂


BTW- an FBI agent just gave public testimony that he was reprimanded for and received a strict prohibition against filing intelligence reports relating to Giuliani or any other Trump associate, and his investigations were interfered with consistently and he received retaliatory acts, intelligence suppression, and defamation from superiors as early as 2017 and continuing through Jan 2022 when he filed a whistleblower lawsuit. That included among other crimes multiple cases of Giuliani taking unreported cash payments from Russians and Russian Ukrainians like Pavel Fuks, and his defrauding investors over a never started anti Biden movie he was paid hundreds of thousands for setting up. Glad those “weaponizing the fed” hearings keep finding more cases of Trump’s administration and deep state MAGA doing just that. 😂

bobknight33 said:

Unemployment will go up per FED.

The jobs added were lower paying jobs.

Time my friend give it time.

5 Facts About Trump’s Indictments

newtboy says...

Not sure what that has to do with Trump (the rapist) being indicted AGAIN, but…

3.5% unemployment …barely half what Trump left him with
3.2% inflation….half of what the rest of the western world has currently and <.7% above the historical average. 4.7% gdp growth … Trump’s last year was negative 2.3% growth
Stock market is up.
Wage increases are outpacing inflation.
Not sure what you’ve been told is so bad, but it isn’t…especially when compared with the previous disaster.

These are MASSIVE improvements from what he inherited, with all trends now positive.
Sure sounds like Bidenomics is great if you’re an American, or terrible if you’re Republican hoping for a recession to blame on Hunter. 😂

bobknight33 said:

And Biden economics is great???
NOT

Biden's shuts down Pubtards who claim legislative credit

newtboy says...

Thank you for verifying I’m 100% correct.
Your denials are as good as any evidence.

Biden Inflation 3% and falling - the rapist Trump left it at 8% and rising
Biden Unemployment 3.5% and steady - Trump the rapist left it at 7% and rising
Biden’s GDP expected 4% - Raping fraud Trump left it at a horrific NEGATIVE 2.7% the worst in living memory.

PS- you might want to find sources for information that aren’t all hyper biased randos on the internet with no clue but a love for rapists. This is from some internet real estate guru in Texas and is solely for entertainment purposes, “Your reliance on any information on the channel is solely at your own risk”. I guess you missed their disclaimer. 😂

The numbers don’t lie, but you do.

bobknight33 said:

You are 100% wrong, again.

Biden's shuts down Pubtards who claim legislative credit

newtboy says...

Every whining word you wrote is a lie, and easily proven wrong.
Why do you spout these obvious, easily debunked lies?

You can’t even carry $200 worth of grocery store steak in your hands. What ridiculous lie are you spreading now? I bet you can’t carry more than 2 gallons of milk at once, so under $12 worth of groceries. In fact, I bet you can’t carry 2 half gallons at once, so $6 is your hands full. 😂

Most wage gains are going to the bottom 60%, not the top 10% like all gains under the rapist Trump. Wages rose at .4% in July, well above predictions.

The record setting jobs numbers have been revised UP almost every month this year. May was almost double the estimate. July was revised down ever so slightly, but is still amazingly good and now becoming sustainable for the long term…adding 340000 jobs a month like we did in May was not. Adding 190000 in July is great, an amazing number of jobs created, and sustainable.

Trump the rapist is the only modern president to ever LOSE jobs while president, he lost around 3 MILLION JOBS overall (and 1 million Americans) and had a record high unemployment of 14.7%…Dark Brandon has recovered every single job Trump the rapist lost and added well over 10 MILLION new jobs on top of that, leading to record low unemployment numbers staying around 3.5%. 😂

Employers are looking for more workers desperately, not cutting hours or jobs you absolute liar. (Elon is the exception because he’s trying to destroy his companies out of spite). Some are canceling projects because they can’t find workers.
Employers are creating more jobs than anyone ever expected consistently, not cutting jobs like they did under Trump. 😂

Inflation is down to 3% and falling.

Unemployment is at 3.5%.

GDP is expected to hit 4% this quarter.

Economists have said we are no longer at risk for recession.

Trump’s last numbers were near 7% yearly unemployment (down from 15% in April), 8% inflation, -2.7% gdp, and a predicted recession and likely depression expected in the near future.
You are so delusional you want to return to these disastrous numbers and whine incessantly about Biden’s economic recovery that’s record setting in its gains on all fronts despite the near depression, negative gdp, insane unemployment, insanely high inflation, and out of control pandemic he inherited.

Every stupid word of your post is a lie. Every prediction you made has failed miserably. Not surprising, you are a constant liar that hates facts and truth because they make you look incredibly stupid, racist, fascist, and ignorant. I think your brain is so damaged you think it’s 2020 again…the worst year in living memory on all fronts, and exactly what 3 years of Trumpism gets you. 🤦‍♂️

Keep the tantrums and MAGA tears coming..so yummy you guys…mmmmmm, yes!



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