But the facts are disputed , which mitigates the ability of the judge to make such decision. This was presented during the 11 weeks of the prosecution side of this hearing.



It only work is such cases as for example 5 people see me run over and kill someone. That is not is dispute.
What is or could be to mitigate my conviction is to show just cause -- IE being robed at gunpoint or such.


This "trial" is about property value. This cant be fraud in any way. Trump places a value and banks do the same and an agreement is made. No bank or lender indicated fraud -- Every bank got paid back, with interest and some made other deals on other projects.

This is a BS show trial. prejudged before it even started.

Only the ignorant are blinded.

All you statement below are bullshit -- none of that in this hearing. Every proposal for loans clearly had disclaimers for banks to do their own due diligence in their evaluation. Some thought higher some though lower-- but all made loans and got paid back.


Sadly stupid dicks with big egos, like you push false information.

I look for actual facts like presented -- Her own words - Trump Guilty before the trial began-- Thats BS

You really are exactly that ignorant, aren’t you?
No American is that ignorant, Vlad. We lived with that court, you clearly did not or you would know better.
For the last >50 years the court has been at least 5-4 CONSERVATIVE, now it’s 6-3 CONSERVATIVE, and you call that a leftist court. 🤦‍♂️

You have lost your fucking mind you absolute nut job…or you are dumber than a rock….most likely both.
I hate to burst your bubble, but 6 is MORE THAN 3, 5 is MORE THAN 4.
You need to stop making yourself look so insanely idiotic. Better to be silent and let us think you a fool than open your mouth and astonish us with the level of your stupidity.

😂 Ahhhh….more internet lawyering from the team that’s lost every court case in the last 4 years. Next you’ll post Haba explaining how it’s all highly illegal democratic political skulduggery, thinking she knows what she’s talking about despite her abysmal track record. 😂
Good luck with that…how’s it been working for you?
🍔 🍔 🍔 🍔 🍔

As usual, you are projecting.

That’s IF.

The Supreme Court ignoring the rights given to the states in the constitution to even take the case, much less ignoring it altogether to save Trump is the pipe dream….but considering the hyper partisan absurdly corrupt nature of the Trump court appointees and their cronies, of all things MAGA in fact, anything is possible. They just might be that dumb and anti American, they are absolutely that corrupt.
Remember, if they say it’s legal for Trump to direct a crowd to stop election proceedings, it’s legal for Biden, and he still has pardon powers to keep his insurrectionists out of prison.

But if not, no problem, since it’s totally 100% fake news nothingburgers, just get congress to override it (since specifically only they can, not courts)…or just ignore it and write in Daddy Trump, then claim fraud when he loses.

For you, recognize anyone? https://videosift.com/video/The-Infamous-Epstein-List-Is-About-To-Be-Released

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I'm a Christian, and I absolutely detest American "thoughts and prayers"-ism. It's done so much damage to America (or abroad) and not just passively let evil deeds to keep happening, it also created and justified many of those deeds. Especially on gun violence, it's downright vile and the 2nd amendment "interpretation" (more like ignoring 100% of the context and 80% of the text before & after "right to bear arms").

This toxic combo of "thoughts & prayers" and "rights to bear arms".... is this "American Exceptionalism"? It happens to no other countries, and I don't see many of their government are less "democratic" or "free," nor its citizens have less rights.

The passivity of whole "thoughts and prayers" is NOT what Jesus said, nor what Jesus wants its followers do. If people read the NT, then they'll know Jesus is more of a SJW progressive/activist than what half of the US - the right leaning people - say Jesus is.

Oh, the all-too-easy "my heart breaks for..." whatever tragedy a politician/faith leaders heard and then DON'T do anything that they can help bring legislation to minimize said tragedy? Just as bad and hypocritical.

What gives a "law abiding" citizen the right to bare mass killing machine guns? Or owning hundreds and thousands of ammo in a home? For self-defense? Is that necessary? Really it's just a twisted sense of entitlement/freedom or some kind of nihilistic fetish. You know, I have the crazy "Borat" idea that if I'm an American (I'm Canadian, so I don't have the "right" to do anything directly), I'd troll the far-right Republican cultists using my Christian "credential" to demand my right to bear ANY arms... like anything from bombs, grenades to tanks, fighter jets and nuclear missiles as a private collection as long as I can afford it (Hooray, Capitalism!). It's my freaking "God"-given right! Carry the selective 2nd amendment reading to the extreme to see how ridiculous the status quo already is! ... But the thing is, I'm not sure anymore if there already IS a critical mass of far-right crazies that really believe what I said make total sense.

Hmmmm….did you think better about this post and remove it @bobknight33? It’s disappeared. I’ll put it back here where it’s safe……


You are way beyond ignorant.

Trump was found guilty on day one because the evidence that was 100% undisputed by Trump proved his guilt absolutely, not even a requirement for guilt in civil court. Evidence, and supporting facts had absolutely been presented by both parties, litigated, and stipulated to…years and years of contradictory and fraudulent business records filed with the state under penalty of perjury….it’s what’s known as a prima facie case,
“ A prima facie case is a cause of action or defense that is sufficiently established by a party's evidence to justify a verdict in his or her favor, provided such evidence is not rebutted by the other party.”
The evidence was not rebutted, Trump blatantly minimized value beyond reason for tax purposes and inflated it beyond reason for loan purposes…both in writing with his and his children swearing to the veracity of the numbers.

There was absolutely no rebuttal to the fact that the Trump organization committed repeated and massive frauds in New York. I know Trump has gone on tv and made claims that he disputed the evidence , but the facts are he did not dispute it in court under oath, only on camera where he can lie freely.

There was a bench trial not a jury trial because Trump did not request a jury until after the penalty phase of trial had started, well beyond the legal deadline. Are you saying he should get special treatment because his chosen lawyers are incompetent? I and the courts think not! I think you would insist on the bench trial with an unfavorable judge if this were a Democrat in court…in fact I know so. 😂

😂 Yes I DO find these type of court actions OK in America, they are absolutely normal legal procedure that any competent attorney could have avoided at every turn, but Trumps are too busy giving interviews and fundraising for him to actually do the trial work, you get the lawyers you deserve, and Star fucking camera chasers are the only ones who will work for a debt welcher and insane and dangerous client like Trump.

Yes, he had no defense. The stipulated facts proved him guilty beyond doubt. Just like Giuliani who is $150 million poorer this evening. They didn’t offer a defense and were found guilty based on what they agreed the facts were, now they whine it’s unfair they were found guilty. 😂

The second part of trials are the punishment phase. That’s the only phase that either defendant had because they had no defense to their guilt….And you think this proves some conspiracy?!. Sucker. Idiot! Braying moron! 😂 you don’t understand the world and it’s so big and scary and unfair, isn’t it baby boy? Yes Bob. After guilt is established, there’s more trial before the prosecution rests. Only absolute brain dead slugs don’t understand that, clearly you and MAGA don’t understand it.


And you are so delusional, gullible, and ignorant you think normal trial procedure proves some conspiracy. 😂 you honestly are the dumbest person I’ve ever encountered including the mentally challenged and brain damaged people I’ve known…you take the cake for dumb bob. Congrabulations!

BTW- the idiot whose video you posted clearly has no idea what communism is, he just likes saying the word. The courts making a summary judgement based on the undisputed evidence is not only not communistic, it’s perfectly normal, especially when the charges are proven so conclusively. He claimed on sworn documents his apartment was 3 times the size it was to fraudulently get better loan terms that over years saved him reportedly near $200 million in interest alone that he would have paid had he been honest about the collateral he was using. There’s no way to explain that away, nor the other few thousand examples of fudging the numbers always in his favor for fraudulent financial gains and tax evasion that they have on record with his signature attached swearing to the veracity of the values he supplied.
I know it will all go over your head, but here’s the legal explanation of what you and MAGA don’t understand about the law here….not all your fault, you are clearly ignorant of the law and Trump and team and morons like this are misleading you.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/summary_judgment

BTW- posted this for you to celebrate all the MAGgots falling like rain.

https://videosift.com/video/GWAR-Maggots-Live-From-Antarctica

😂 Tantrum much!? 😂

I know reading and comprehension are weak points for you, it’s sad and shocking to see how weak.
Another reason to not believe you could earn the lowest of tech degrees…I can’t imagine you passed middle school when you can read my very short clear statement and come up with that. I spelled it out simply and clearly, and you 100% got it 100% wrong and continue to argue against something never said….typical for you because you can never back up your claims so you must pretend the topic is something else.

I never said there’s no tax fraud case, I said your title is a total lie and is debunked in the video itself. That’s a fact. You’re a constant liar. No amount of your intentionally misstating facts or what I said will change that, it reinforces it.

I have said if it wasn’t a politically motivated attack on Joe, Hunter would never be prosecuted for any of the minor crimes he did commit, he would be offered a plea deal with a fine, like he originally was. I stand by that statement. Wanna try again?

Hunter was late paying his taxes…he has paid them at this point unlike Trump who is still over $250 million behind in his NY state taxes and has defrauded the federal government out of at least that much, likely 10 times that amount.
Consider, Trump pays taxes on Maralago as if it was worth $20 million (and he complained and sued because he said that was too HIGH, it was worth LESS for tax purposes). If, as he claims, it’s really worth $1.8 BILLION…he needs to pay property taxes on $1.78 BILLION he evaded for 40 years…according to Trump himself he’s evaded over $700 MILLION in property taxes on Maralago alone. That’s quite a bit worse than Hunter’s late payment, and is only one example out of thousands where Trump defrauded the country out of hundreds of millions. 😂
If Hunter’s crimes are prison worthy, the Trumps’ are execution worthy.

😂 Fake news! 😂
I know you can’t accept the truth, bob. We all know. You deny reality daily, on every front.

HUNTER HUNTER HUNTER…..The Hunter laptop is a long dead horse, just like the election fraud fraud, every attempt to legitimize it only ended up proving how much MAGA had tampered with the data, making it not evidence but propaganda. You’ve been trying to sell this nonsense for 5-6 years now. Nobody’s buying, and nobody’s listening anymore. You can only cry wolf so many times before the villagers stop listening and start hoping a wolf will eat you and shut your lying mouth permanently….you passed that point years and years ago, friendo.

No need to google anything about the laptop, it’s nothing. The FBI proved the data had been forged by Giuliani’s team. Nothing there makes any case for anything besides more MAGA frauds perpetrated on the courts, it’s a well established pattern for MAGA, and it’s a losing strategy, because you keep getting caught! Try again. 😂

Hunter is living rent free in your head, and he’s got a mansion in there with a pool, hot tub, putting green, even a driving range, and there’s still empty space for expansion. He’s not even a politician, so why would anyone care about him? It makes the lying, exageration, and hysterics hilarious self owns by you and yours. Another big “L” for your team…one you just can’t accept but everyone outside the cult has. Reminiscent of the big lie, only cultists believe, and everyone else just sees you losing your shit over your own lies not catching on. 😂

Hilarious how the mantra was “family is off limits” when it came to Trump despite the constant nepotism, but not for his enemies despite their complete lack of involvement in politics. More dishing it out but unable to stand it from your cowardly leader…he was even to scared to testify in his own defense! What a sniveling little fat cowardly baby, cowering because he has something to hide according to his spokesperson Haba.

Nothing you claim about Hunter is true, (fortunately MAGA is so untrustworthy that no one cares what stupidity you lie) and nothing Hunter has done makes one whit of difference about his father. Keep focusing on him, ignoring the same tax crimes comitted by Trump but by a factor of 250 or more…voters notice the hypocrisy and it guarantees your loss next year….meanwhile Joe has rescued the economy in every possible way from the utter disaster and guaranteed recession/depression Trump left,
IN EVERY WAY BOB, INCLUDING INFLATION THATS AT 0% while MAGA eats itself alive and gets absolutely nothing done! 😂

Of course I’m not clicking your link, if ever there was a site I would expect to host malicious viruses, it would be the Russia/MAGA hosted anti Biden pdf site you pointed people to. Why would any rational person expose their computer to attack to download and read your pure faked propaganda? A: they wouldn’t.

It’s going to be so delicious when/if Hunter beats the charges and gets Giuliani and the RNC to pay his legal bills. You morons had a guilty plea in hand and decided to go to court instead with little chance of getting more and a huge risk he might beat all charges, vindicating himself and by extension Joe…talk about snatching defeat from the mouth of victory! 😂 😂 😂

HOLY SHIT!
THERE’S NOW OVERWHELMING EVIDENCE THAT ISRAEL HAD THE BATTLE PLAN FOR THE OCT 7 ATTACK AT LEAST A YEAR BEFOREHAND, KNEW THE GOAL OF THE OPERATION WAS TO START A WAR, AND WAS GETTING INTELLIGENCE INFORMATION INDICATING IT WAS BEING IMPLEMENTED IN THE WEEKS AND MONTHS LEADING UP TO IT AND INTENTIONALLY IGNORED IT!

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/30/world/middleeast/israel-hamas-attack-intelligence.html

Keep in mind Israel has insisted until now that they had absolutely no evidence of the plans to attack beforehand which was CLEARLY a BLATANT lie.
It’s sounding like Netanyahu’s administration wanted this war as a pretext to genocide and allowed the attack intentionally.
Their war crimes, indiscriminate, intentional, even targeted bombing of civilians, including official refugee camps, the destruction of 2/3 of hospitals, the complete leveling of the cities and infrastructure of the entire region, the forceful direction to evacuate to what immediately became the next bombing target, and the direct murder of over well over 11000 non combatant women and children so far go a long way towards proving this.

Reminder, Gaza has a massive completely untapped natural gas reserve just offshore discovered 20 years ago that Israel would love to annex and exploit, and could if Gaza was empty.

lol. Manly Traitor Greene now says she was terrified for her life on Jan 6 because the armed violent rioters were so threatening and she was only saved by an unnamed congressman with a gun.
Of course, she’s claiming with no evidence that they were armed ANTIFA agents she was so afraid of (showing she doesn’t understand what ANTIFA is) and ignoring that every conviction so far has been a MAGA moron who say in court that they tried to steal the office of president for Trump.
Hilariously she doesn’t realize she’s now calling the very convicts she likes to visit in prison and call “peaceful tourists” armed rioters that made her fear for her life on Jan 6.
How does she think Pelosi felt? They weren’t chanting “where’s Marjory” while shitting on HER desk and ransacking her office.

As a bonus, Trump’s lawyers just filed a brief looking for more discovery in which they assert “Russia, through its government funded channel RT and other means, executed a Kremlin directed campaign to undermine faith in the (incumbent) US Government and fuel political protest.” (Which would clearly favor the challenger….now who was the challenger in 2016?). Yes, this is Trump arguing in court filings that he needs unredacted classified documents for his defense because Russia interfered in the 2016 and 2020 election on his behalf! 😂

Really Bobby.
Now you’re taking conspiracy theory cues from disgraced felon, willing cuckhold, and professional convicted liar Roger Stone?
You aren’t being tricked into being an moronic ignorant idiot, you are doing it willfully and with full knowledge that it’s what you are doing.
Please spread your tin foil hat insanity elsewhere. Try Toth Senchal….it needs every view it can get.

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“ It’s your insistence that Jewish people, and the existence of Israel, have always fundamentally been invaders that I was objecting to as it is so intensely at odds with factual history.”
No…it is at odds with your position and is not what I said.
It is factual history that fighting age European Jews came armed and forcibly displaced the natives after being offered sanctuary for their most needy. It is not factual that I claimed it was ever thus. That is clearly not what I said, I said for 10+- years they were getting along as refugees, then started coming in HUGE numbers illegally and taking over.

Those are facts.

I also mentioned a native Jewish population that were not refugees or invaders. Some of them supported the invading Zionists, some didn’t. I’ve never heard of one who opposed them.

“ You gave a brief nod on not being a scholar of Palestinian history, but then proceed to just count all Jewish refugees as good as Zionist aggressors from day 1(or close enough), and the local Arab population as nothing but pure, kind caring victims of these invaders.”

Not even close to true, I said many stood behind the Zionists when they started coming en masse, and didn’t say but seemingly few to none of the native Jews opposed them. I also was clear that at the beginning the refugees acted like refugees, not invaders….I mistakenly gave them more time being grateful than you say they were, according to you Palestinians position is they began the invasion in the 20’s….and theirs is the opinion I care about. I never claimed ALL Arabs were welcoming, but the “nation” as a whole (despite being not self ruling at the time) welcomed a huge number of refugees considering their own population. Way more than elsewhere.

Edit: Britain, who facilitated this invasion, only took in 80000 European Jews in the decade before and during the war, and they were only given transit visas to stay temporarily until they found other accommodations. All of England took in fewer Jewish refugees in all pre war history than Palestine did….England took in 80000, most on temporary visas, Palestine took in 60000 permanently in 1935 alone, and 130000 in 33-36.
Pre-immigration Palestine had about 700000 people. In 1944 European Jews ignored the 1500 visa limit per year and came by the hundred of thousands per year after already completely overwhelming the native population.
Palestine was forcibly invaded by a foreign population exponentially bigger than the native population while Britain kept them too weak to oppose it physically.
That’s an invasion…not on day 1. 🤦‍♂️

“ without being able to writeoff Israel as invaders from day 1, nuance enters the calculus and suddenly the conflict is flooded with shades of grey ”

Again, I said day 3, not day 1, and went on to say that meant 10 years later. Get off your high horse and READ buddy.

I guess I’ll stop here. If you aren’t going to read what I wrote and insist on arguing red herrings you made up yourself, you can do that alone.

Nothing you’ve said changes or excuses the fact that masses of armed violent invaders came to take the land from the natives by force and were successful. The exact date this happened is not only y highly subjective, it’s completely besides the point.
Nothing you’ve said changes or excuses the inhuman treatment they’ve subjected the innocent native civilian population to for 70 years…but you’ve tried.
Nothing you’ve said changes or excuses the intentional targeting of trapped civilians by the military….serious war crimes Israel commits daily.
Nothing you’ve said even hints that you consider Palestinians worthy of consideration themselves, possibly not even human status, definitely not peaceful existence.

Bye

“ my solution would be every able bodied Jewish man and woman join the French (or Polish, Russian, British) army and fucking fight…”

I agree that’s the noble thing to do, but I can’t condemn the ones that choose to seek safety in numbers with Jewish Palestinians as exclusively invasion minded aggressors. My 6 million tag was maybe a bit sharp, but you also know that the Nazi’s took Paris and as much as it sucked to be French or European under Nazi occupation, you also know adding Jewish to that carried a lot of extra consequence and danger to your family.

My POV is agnostic of everything save Isreali people today having a right exist as a nation. Which at this point from my POV leaves 1947 as somewhat academic.

It’s your insistence that Jewish people, and the existence of Israel, have always fundamentally been invaders that I was objecting to as it is so intensely at odds with factual history.

You gave a brief nod on not being a scholar of Palestinian history, but then proceed to just count all Jewish refugees as good as Zionist aggressors from day 1(or close enough), and the local Arab population as nothing but pure, kind caring victims of these invaders.

I will state again, that is ahistorical propaganda and NOT what actually happened. And for my POV, its enough generations back as to be Academic, but for your POV it is fundamental because without being able to writeoff Israel as invaders from day 1, nuance enters the calculus and suddenly the conflict is flooded with shades of grey because lots of parties all contribute to the bloodshed, and many with reasonable motivations from both sides yet too.

Please find me any reputable sources to refute the reality of 1920-1940s Palestine:
-Mass Jewish immigration fleeing European oppression raised tensions between Jewish and Arab Palestinians.(as one must expect)
-Arab palestinians were already chaffing and resisting British colonial rule(as one must expect)
-These tensions led conflict, initially more ‘civil’ with the Arab majority trying to refuse all business, sales and trade with all Jews.
-Escalation followed throughout that time, but in drips and drops and NOT a ‘surprise the Zionist army has arrived’! style of aggression

The violent escalation was a fight here, a beating there. Little individual fights, escalating into deaths. Retaliations slowly grew, with each side exchanging small escalations.

-the culmination of this was eventually all out civil war, and the Jewish side immediately accepting a UN mandated 2 state solution

-this culmination coinciding with the end of WW2 and revelations of the true extent of the holocaust can’t be ignored, it certainly shaped the Jewish mindset in the conflict.

-Their mindset was pretty clearly not inaccurate either, as the immediate response of all neighbouring Arab nations was a declaration of war on the new ‘state’, with bold claims of how quickly the Jews would be swept into the sea. The confidence was so high, a call was sent it for ALL Arab palestinians to abandon and flee the entire region of Palestine to better enable the complete cleansing of the land.

The above is all pretty much inarguably factual, and I’d bargain you could get an Arabic and Israeli scholar together to more or less agree on those facts which is saying alot.

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Propaganda from both sides would like to declare that the Arabs harboured deep Nazi sympathies, and thus Israel was pure and true in all it did. Or from the other side, more or less your narrative of Zionist bad guys launching invasion from day 1(ish).

Both though are just sprinklings of half truths, with anti-British resentment naturally breeding some leanings towards the axis, and even genuine Nazi cleanse the Jews believers. And absolutely Zionists featured prominently within the Jewish population. Neither of those partial truths though make the propaganda of either side true, but instead just an incomplete and intentionally biased picture.


Again, please find me sources demonstrating I’m terribly wrong on all that, but the only ones I can find are clearly biased and the accurate accounts paint the picture above, the propaganda very, very clearly copies the real story more or less with just deletions of inconvenient bits