My parents, very conservative Republicans who wanted Huckabee last time around, are actually warming up to Ron Paul!

obvious immediate hypocrisy point: indoctrinating children

http://mediamatters.org/research/200909020012

yes you have to opt in to huckabee, but your children dont get a choice... did obama make himself into a cartoon to talk to little billy and sally... no

parents could have kept their kids home. what happens when the parents show this in their home? wheres the possiblity for choice then?

all obama did was stress the importance of educating oneself... not holding the past over the present and ruining the future.

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I think Ron Paul would be a great choice for the Republicans. He is in complete solidarity with the corporatists on economic issues (deregulation, privatization, austerity, etc.) and his anti-war stance could probably be subverted just as easily as Obama's similar anti-war stance was subverted.

I'd much prefer him to idiots like Huckabee, Romney, Trump, Palin or Gingrich.

I was going to complain about Huckabee, Romney and Trump making me want to throw up.

Here's a positive spin instead. Who would you rather have, Giuliani or Trump? I think this is a pretty decent improvement with respect to 2008! Just don't ruin it by having Sarah Palin join the race.

I think you're missing the point. The issue is not whether or not he should be criticized/reprimanded for saying what he did. He's a public figure, words matter, and he should be thrown to the wolves for it (though it probably won't happen). The issue is whether or not he actually believes/endorses what was said. You watch the video, listen to his tone and his actions, consider who is audience is, and its pretty obvious that he's just getting carried away in the moment and doesn't realize the full import of what he's saying at that moment. For some reason, politicians on both sides of the aisle seem to forget that cameras and the internet exist.

This is no different from how the Republicans attempted to portray Howard Dean as mentally unhinged after footage of him getting exuberant at that one rally back in the day when in reality he was just getting carried away with the excitement of the moment.

>> ^jimnms:

That Imus guy was just making a joke too, a bad joke, but he got fired for what he said. Huckabee jokes that all Americans should be forced at gunpoint to listen to the brainwashing of David Barton and he's considered presidential material?
If a politician joked that everyone should be forced at gunpoint to listen/read Richard Dawkins, he'd be be hunted down and burned at the stake.
>> ^VoodooV:
I'm no fan of huckabee, but you don't think this is taken just slightly out of context?
Guy was just making a joke...a bad joke, but a joke nonetheless.

>> ^bmacs27:
Title Fail. First of all, obviously he is being tongue in cheek. Second of all, he technically says they should be forced to listen, not believe, or be indoctrinated or anything else. While he terrifies me (mostly because of his electability), he's not the craziest son of a bitch in jesus camp.

>> ^shuac:
Yes, he was just making a bad joke. If you insist on inferring more into it, help yourself.

That Imus guy was just making a joke too, a bad joke, but he got fired for what he said. Huckabee jokes that all Americans should be forced at gunpoint to listen to the brainwashing of David Barton and he's considered presidential material?

If a politician joked that everyone should be forced at gunpoint to listen/read Richard Dawkins, he'd be be hunted down and burned at the stake.

>> ^VoodooV:

I'm no fan of huckabee, but you don't think this is taken just slightly out of context?
Guy was just making a joke...a bad joke, but a joke nonetheless.


>> ^bmacs27:

Title Fail. First of all, obviously he is being tongue in cheek. Second of all, he technically says they should be forced to listen, not believe, or be indoctrinated or anything else. While he terrifies me (mostly because of his electability), he's not the craziest son of a bitch in jesus camp.


>> ^shuac:

Yes, he was just making a bad joke. If you insist on inferring more into it, help yourself.

I very much dislike Huckabee, but I'm not gonna get all bent out of shape about a bad joke. I'd rather focus on shit that's real and matters.

I'm pretty sure you'll never get him to admit it on record, but I really do think it quite possible that he would support such. Those views are not much different than others he clearly does hold (for example, that a governor shouldn't have to pay for merchandise, people should just give it to him as a gift). Huckabee is precisely as delusional and corrupt as one would expect from a preacher turned politician. What makes him scary is his proficiency in seeming rational when he wants to do so.

As for changing the fucking subject, I believe -you- were the one that did that. I just responded to statements made in -your- comment, after all.

Don't change the fucking subject. Answer the question. Do you believe Huckabee is honestly advocating child indoctrination by gunpoint?

>> ^VoodooV:

Whatever, man. If you can honestly sit there and say with a straight face that you believe that Huck is honestly advocating indoctrination by gunpoint, then I guess we have nothing more to say.
Don't stoop to their level of punditry. Republicans have some shitty ideas and policies, but they are not mustache twirling villains.
Grow up.


I beg to differ...many, if not most of them -are- villains by any reasonable definition. Lying sacks of shit, who will say anything to get in a position to sell us out to big money. Just look at their actions, compared to their words...the two never seem to match, and in every mismatch, we (the middle class) take the difference in the shorts.

But even without that, I consider anyone who wants to give the rich more tax breaks by cutting teachers wages to be a villain. Those priorities are at best stupid (the last 30 years shows precisely how well Reaganomics works), and moving towards pure evil. It's the same as someone claiming that eating the seed corn is the best way to prosper, or that they can bring rain to end the drought if we only pay them enough, and should get the same treatment (tarring, feathering, and run them out of town on a rail).

>> ^VoodooV:

I'm no fan of huckabee, but you don't think this is taken just slightly out of context?
Guy was just making a joke...a bad joke, but a joke nonetheless.


How is this out of context? He isn't talking privately with a few people at a dinner party, he's addressing a group as a public figure and while he's saying this slightly tongue in cheek, it is VERY much in context. He feels forcing people to believe something at gunpoint it is "funny."

For example, if I was to "joke" that Christians should be rounded up into camps and forced to listen to Neil Tyson Degrass at gunpoint until the stupid left their little brains, do you think Mike Huckabee would find it funny?

That is pretty dangerous "humor."

I'm no fan of huckabee, but you don't think this is taken just slightly out of context?

Guy was just making a joke...a bad joke, but a joke nonetheless.

>> ^kronosposeidon:

Funny how NO one was talking about government at all, but now that you mention it, @NetRunner, @dystopianfuturetoday and I are proposing legislation to carefully monitor the caloric intake of every single American. If your intake is too high, we starve you; if it's too low, we force feed you. And we'll force feed you Muslim food, and take away your Christian food. And then we'll all be forcibly relocated to Kenya Indonesia.



Well? Isn't the left's answer to everything MOAR BIGGER GOVERNMENT? After all, the herd has to be ruled by a cabal of powerful geniuses who knows what's best for everyone. And isn't obamacare the PERFECT license to rule? Now you can withold medical care when a citizen chooses to live an unhealthy lifestyle.


Funny how you didn't mind the tyranny of the Bush regime when he presided over the biggest expansion of government in US history, but when someone tries to make sure that no one has to die for lack of insurance then suddenly it's tyranny. I've noticed as of late you've picked up blankfist's "statist" lingo, but you didn't mind it when Bush authorized the state to wiretap without warrants.


The Right was angry then and is still pi$$ed off now at fakeservative Bush's spending sprees (a drop in the bucket compared to the next guy). I wish the left took the threat of radical islam as seriously as those wiretaps, continued under His Earness.

Funny how NO one was talking about government at all, but now that you mention it, @NetRunner, @dystopianfuturetoday and I are proposing legislation to carefully monitor the caloric intake of every single American. If your intake is too high, we starve you; if it's too low, we force feed you. And we'll force feed you Muslim food, and take away your Christian food. And then we'll all be forcibly relocated to Kenya Indonesia.

Funny how you didn't mind the tyranny of the Bush regime when he presided over the biggest expansion of government in US history, but when someone tries to make sure that no one has to die for lack of insurance then suddenly it's tyranny. I've noticed as of late you've picked up blankfist's "statist" lingo, but you didn't mind it when Bush authorized the state to wiretap without warrants.

QM <3 the (Republican) state>> ^quantumushroom:

Real freedom means people have the right to ruin their lives, and many do.
The tyrannical nanny-state alternative is far worse.