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Undercover: EXPOSING MAGA Hypocrisy on Afghanistan

cloudballoon says...

Which POTUS started the war(s) in the first place? W. Bush. Which POTUS send billions upon billions of free military hardware to prop up a corrupt, coward, incompetent, puppet government? Trump.

Biden will own the absolutely hasty pull-out, though Biden ISN'T incorrect about unavoidable chaos. That's because the US -- AGAIN like most other American war adventures -- just pack up & left. In war, you either win, lose or negotiate an armistice to avoid a bloody and chaotic aftermath. You can't have an armistice with the Taliban because it wasn't - isn't - even a government entity. Biden was honest about the miscalculation about the speed of Afghanistan's fall to the Taliban at least. He said Intel couldn't imagine it'd be a matter of weeks but thought something like 90 days+? But that means crap because Intel said fall to the Taliban it WILL (i.e., an eventuality). So why the haste, where's the logistical & humanitarian planning? There is no justification for that strategic lapse. The major international criticism (100% valid IMO) is how Biden/America abandonned its own and allies' citizens & Afghan aides in a war torn country with little planning & time to get them out of the country BEFORE the military leave. And leaving all those military hardware intact to the Taliban? What the hell? I mean, what are the generals doing? Is American reverence of its President so total that you can't pushback and buy some time to plan for a better outcome? Or are they really THAT incompetent? What this fiasco shows is that Biden/Pentagon cares nothing BUT the military personel. That is f---ing it, no more, no less.

What we're witnessing in Afghanistan is arguably a collective American sin, not just Biden's. Most Americans want out, like it should've happened yesteryear. The US have been propping up its GDP by using endless wars to feed the mouths of the military industrial complex to sell hardware abroad. It's an addiction whether the Dem/GOP likes it or not. This is just another sad but typical American war history repeating itself again. It's America's military modus operandi. Want to apportion blame? Don't just blame it on Biden, there's plenty to go around: from the WH to the Senate, Pentagon and down to the "Almighty American Military Prowess' Sure Win" mentality in its people are all to blame.

Oh, rest assured that Republicans couldn't do better. Why? Because it's built into the American military DNA: arrogance & ignorance. That breeds blindness, making Intel useless - or worse - counterproductive because of the inherent lack of situational/cultural awareness. It's not really a political mistake, rather a huge military blunder.

It's a f---ing war crime to start a war and not knowing how to end it already. It's made worse that America collectively *think* it can "nation build" a vastly different (culturally, economically, socially, judicially... etc.) , and far away country by basically propping up a corrupt, dependant, puppet government and then leave, knowing (or EVEN worse, NOT knowing) the eventual outcomes. What a pathetic, cruel and deadly joke.

vil said:

Which potus put this plan into action though?

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After the recent IPCC climate report an old 'Newsroom' clip

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Day of Rage: How Trump Supporters Took the U.S. Capitol

luxintenebris jokingly says...

stolen? 6M is a hell of a heist. AZ & GA? pretty sweet haul. what is obvious is that if this was true, it took tight organization, supreme attention to detail, and wildly deft implementation. talking superior leadership and a task force of the finest to pull it off. if they are that good - let them keep the W.H and give them the rest of Congress!

the nation wants nat'l healthcare, better educational systems, intelligent ideas - folks that can solve problems. Or just, all the things the GOP can't/wouldn't provide or structure. rather have folks that can figure out how to do the impossible, fashion plans that work on the first take, and accomplish miracles.

that's your inadvertent testimony; they're so bad they're good!

fake news? honestly, don't believe you could source where you bought your morning cereal.

put the other comments under "what can he be thinking". kind of like this news...
https://www.justice.gov/usao-ma/pr/six-former-ebay-employees-charged-aggressive-cyberstalking-campaign-targeting-natick
...hardly exemplary excogitation.

bobknight33 said:

This is what can happen when the Election IS STOLEN.
Democracy in action.
Mostly slanted narrative.

If only the fake news sought out and reported truth then this would not have happened.

Next Time don't steal the election.

Trump didn't do anything wrong

newtboy says...

Lol. Such ignorant delusional cultists you are. When given proof of A,B,C - X, Y, Z…to paraphrase your answer…” None of that matters, Trump is perfect and honest and you’re just a jealous hater.” Thanks for proving my point. 🤦‍♂️

Lots of Russian involvement found. No definitive proof of a conspiracy directly between Trump personally and the Russian government (but absolutely proof of illegal conspiracies with many in his campaign and administration and Russia, with many prosecutions and convictions)…largely because he obstructed the investigation at every turn, refused to provide witnesses or evidence that was subpoenaed, refused to testify, answered all in writing questions with “I don’t recall”, and used the DOJ as a shield instead of a separate independent non political part of the justice system. All this was then lied about by Barr, Republicans didn’t read the report, just took Barr’s lies as truth and refused to see the crimes in front of them….too busy focused on Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi. Barr’s since admitted he intentionally misled congress and the public and publicly apologized for it. You got duped.

Impeached twice buddy. The trials were both thrown by McConnel without jeopardy ever being attached, he didn’t examine evidence or listen to witnesses, he acted as Trump’s defense instead of doing his job, prosecutor and jurist.

Then Trump tried to overthrow the government of the US on Jan 6, we know you hate to hear it but he did….it WAS wild, his proud boys finally got to stop “standing by” and acted for him, and you try to blame BLM and ANTIFA despite every arrest being a long time Trumpster….ALL patriotic Americans care and want EVERY perpetrator arrested and charged, it’s just getting started….and again was protected by McConnel who refused to hear a case before he was out of office, then claimed you can’t try him or even investigate, he’s out of office (and they won’t have any investigations because they can’t have their direct involvement become public knowledge before the next election or the country goes deep deep blue next year).
(Side note, Pence thought Trump tried to kidnap him on that day. When led to a secure area by his own security force, he refused to get in the armored limo Trump sent to evacuate him, telling his security chief that (paraphrasing) ‘I trust you, but if I get in that limo, you won’t be with me, and I certainly don’t trust Trump’s security team or driver right now.’ He then stayed in the secure area with his personal security team.)

We know you don’t recall any of that…or just deny it as fake news because it’s unflattering for Bunker baby, the Cowardly Liar, but it all happened, the records are clear no matter how much you deny the most criminal president ever facing uncountable prosecutions for his innumerable crimes with the most convictions in his administration in history ever did a thing wrong….including having a child with his daughter, idolizing Hitler, siding with racists, white nationalists, and fascists, and trying to follow the Nazi plan to seize power by blaming his failed coup, the attack on Congress on Jan 6, on his political enemies to outrage his base and outlaw his enemies. Like a good little brown shirt you supported every single bold faced and obvious lie without question.

Trump did nothing right. FTFY.

Edit: lol…and the universe provides again. Trump just lambasted his own “best people” as garbage stars, stars he personally created out of garbage with no talent, intelligence, knowledge, or loyalty to anything. One more thing he got wrong.

bobknight33 said:

Muller 40 Million spent--- No Russia involvement
Impeachment 1 and 2 --- Nope.

But hey Trump is out and now its just JAN 6 JAN 6 JAN 6 JAN 6 JAN 6 JAN 6 JAN 6 JAN 6 JAN 6 JAN 6 JAN 6 JAN 6 JAN 6 JAN 6 JAN 6 JAN 6 JAN 6 JAN 6 JAN 6 JAN 6 JAN 6 JAN 6 JAN 6 JAN 6 JAN 6 JAN 6 JAN 6 JAN 6 JAN 6 JAN 6 Morning noon and night.


Trump did nothing wrong.

Trump didn't do anything wrong

newtboy says...

Every Trump supporter ever.

If X, Y, and Z, then I would question Trump’s honesty and integrity.
Here’s proof of X, Y, and Z.
None of that matters, Trump is perfect and honest and you’re just a jealous hater.

What did Reagan think about the right to vote?

newtboy says...

Trump answered that for you unambiguously... it's because Republicans can't win with an honest voting system in place, not a single race. That's why Republicans don't want an honest vote system in place.

The true question is, Why don't Republicans want to investigate Jan 6?
The answer is painfully obvious....because most Republican representatives were complicit in the coup attempt, and any investigation will prove they had prior knowledge of the attack and supported it fully. They weren't smart about hiding their involvement, they tweeted it in public tweets, including tweeting out Pelosi's location to the armed insurrectionists in real time, and likely worse. It will also expose Trump's actions that day, something he absolutely cannot let happen.

bobknight33 said:

The true question is Why don't Americans want a honest vote system in place?

What did Reagan think about the right to vote?

newtboy says...

For the 27th time, do you have any actual evidence of that, or just some partisan liars flapping their gums, jealous and bitter over losing historically. No? Thought not.

So then....Why won't republicans accept an honest vote count?

Arizona finished ANOTHER recount, the Republican recount of Maricopa county finished last week, but because it had the same results as the first one, the second one, and the third, Trump lost big time, Republicans are already planning another one....the problem, all the voting machines are now officially invalidated because cyber ninja tampered with them during their second (or is it the third) audit, and they are no longer secure or unadulterated. They cannot even be used in the future because it's impossible to know what they've done or how they tampered with the software and hardware. I must assume this was the plan all along, keep recounting and auditing until they digitally change the votes, and only then accept their own recounts..

So, again, the true question is, why won't Republicans accept a mostly honest vote system they themselves put in place and ran and they themselves certified nationwide repeatedly? Why won't you accept the results of multiple counts and audits that all come to the same conclusion, the counts are valid and there was no significant fraud.

bobknight33 said:

Both sides cheat.


The true question is Why don't Americans want a honest vote system in place?

What did Reagan think about the right to vote?

bobknight33 says...

The Electoral College is a great idea. It levels the playing field across all states.

As you stated""" inserting partisanship into vote counting, assaulting the integrity of the process and subjecting poll workers to death threats isn't creating a "honest vote system", it's degrading the most fundamental principle of democracy.""

That is what happens to conservatives in major democrat cities during the counting. Glad we are on the same page.

StukaFox said:

Bob,

I agree with your points below, but the limiting polling places, inserting partisanship into vote counting, assaulting the integrity of the process and subjecting poll workers to death threats isn't creating a "honest vote system", it's degrading the most fundamental principle of democracy.

If you really believed in voting honesty, you'd be railing against the Electoral College.

What did Reagan think about the right to vote?

luxintenebris says...

A quick summary of the HR1 'duckery'...

This bill addresses voter access, election integrity and security, campaign finance, and ethics for the three branches of government.

Specifically, the bill expands voter registration (e.g., automatic and same-day registration) and voting access (e.g., vote-by-mail and early voting). It also limits removing voters from voter rolls.

The bill requires states to establish independent redistricting commissions to carry out congressional redistricting.

Additionally, the bill sets forth provisions related to election security, including sharing intelligence information with state election officials, supporting states in securing their election systems, developing a national strategy to protect U.S. democratic institutions, establishing in the legislative branch the National Commission to Protect United States Democratic Institutions, and other provisions to improve the cybersecurity of election systems.

Further, the bill addresses campaign finance, including by expanding the prohibition on campaign spending by foreign nationals, requiring additional disclosure of campaign-related fundraising and spending, requiring additional disclaimers regarding certain political advertising, and establishing an alternative campaign funding system for certain federal offices.

The bill addresses ethics in all three branches of government, including by requiring a code of conduct for Supreme Court Justices, prohibiting Members of the House from serving on the board of a for-profit entity, and establishing additional conflict-of-interest and ethics provisions for federal employees and the White House.

The bill requires the President, the Vice President, and certain candidates for those offices to disclose 10 years of tax returns.

...what is so offensive? where is the downside?

sounds more than fair, honest and these Americans are pushing for an honest voting system. where's your evidence there's any 'duckery' in the bill... 🦜 bob



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