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Israeli Cyberattack Explodes Pagers Across Lebanon

newtboy says...

It is a very safe assumption, I’ll apologize to umption if it turns out to be wrong.

“From all appearances”?
That’s a big assumption, and doesn’t match what I’ve seen, at least some were sold to the public including children….and all were detonated in public which means the collateral victims are 100% random. Even if they were first sold only to Hezbollah, another assumption, many definitely made it into the secondary resale market, which was 100% guaranteed from the start.
How many random bombs mailed/sold around the country by another country are OK? 10? 100? 1000? There may have been tens of thousands of devices spread around the country.

I do not acknowledge this was targeted or selective, the methodology makes that impossible and the mere suggestion ridiculous. “Those in close proximity” to the randomly distributed bombs exploded in public, or in buildings that burned from the devices, or accidents with victims that were driving, etc…. are random innocent victims even if you assume (with no basis or rationality) that the devises were miraculously only in Hezbollah hands and decide that targeting them for terroristic bombings is somehow acceptable.

Israel has a long history of ignoring the massive collateral damage of tens of thousands of innocent victims, mainly children, they intentionally cause by targeting their “enemies” when they can do the most collateral damage consistently, despite having the technology and capacity to do surgical attacks with minimal risk, and are this genocidally barbarous when defending themselves from mostly rock throwing children and fireworks and an occasional gunshot on a damage/death scale <1% what Israel returns.

This act again makes the Israeli government a terrorist government, this was a massive terrorist bombing, no matter what the objective, and likely another war crime. We should in no way be supporting or defending a terrorist nation that is under legitimate criminal accusations of war crimes from international courts. It’s not difficult.

bcglorf said:

Alot of assumptions there though...

First that it even was Israel. Which seems a reasonable assumption though.

My big difference with you though is around being untargeted. From all appearances the affected devices appear to have been almost entirely in the hands of Hezbollah members. That makes the better assumption that Israel(or whomever is responsible) actually was able to distribute the devices directly to Hezbollah itself for internal distribution.

Say what you will about the attack, but 'untargeted' seems a poor descriptor. Heck, even carefully planned out sniper operations on the same number of enemy operatives would likely have a higher collateral casualty count. At least acknowledge this attack, for everything else that it is, was highly selective of Hezbollah members and those within an extremely close proximity of them.

Israeli Cyberattack Explodes Pagers Across Lebanon

bcglorf says...

Alot of assumptions there though...

First that it even was Israel. Which seems a reasonable assumption though.

My big difference with you though is around being untargeted. From all appearances the affected devices appear to have been almost entirely in the hands of Hezbollah members. That makes the better assumption that Israel(or whomever is responsible) actually was able to distribute the devices directly to Hezbollah itself for internal distribution.

Say what you will about the attack, but 'untargeted' seems a poor descriptor. Heck, even carefully planned out sniper operations on the same number of enemy operatives would likely have a higher collateral casualty count. At least acknowledge this attack, for everything else that it is, was highly selective of Hezbollah members and those within an extremely close proximity of them.

newtboy said:

A second wave of random untargeted bombings has killed one and injured hundreds as walkie talkies were targeted and exploded, many in public crowded areas with children present.
This is terrorism plain and simple. The US cannot continue unconditional support any nation that mass mails bombs to the citizens of another country.

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Vance publicly outlined the Trump plan for Ukraine….just walk away.
Let Russia keep all territory they invaded and all people they kidnapped, hand back all Russian territories Ukraine currently holds for no concessions, agree Ukraine will never join the EU or NATO, and NATO countries de escalate their militaries away from their own borders with Russia (preparations for the next annexation)….also known as 100% unconditional surrender. That’s how Trump would end the Ukraine war…just like he did in Afghanistan, surrender to the weaker opponent and hand them everything.

Also….

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

The felon actually brought a proud and loud 9/11 denier (Loomer) to the 9/11 commemoration ceremony as the biggest “FUCK YOU” he could think of to first responders and America.

Stephen Nosferatu absolutely lost his mind (and the conversation) when pressed on his racist migrant gang lie based on nothing but obviously false Venezuelan crime figures he got directly from Maduro. He’s clearly apoplectic that the racist, dehumanizing “they’re eating our pets” lie fell apart so spectacularly when angry great grandpa screamed it from behind the podium…I’m pretty sure he had a hand in that one.

After the disastrous debate and insanity afterwards, when will the felon be replaced? President Vance? 😂

Every actual number or “alternate fact” the felon gave he had backwards.

Crime, better now…oil, more productive now…tariffs, cost America billions…migrants, more productive and less criminal than citizens by far…American production, dropped under the felon grew like a weed under Harris/Biden…Ukraine, a keystone to a free non Soviet Europe and being funded by Europe at double what America has given. Angry grandpa has lost it.

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bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

They’re all 100% for sale, and you keep buying it. 😂



Shocker! Trump officials, namely Dimitri Simes, is directly involved in hiring up to 30 right wing “influencers” and “News producers” to spread Russian propaganda and has been charged for secretly working for hostile foreign powers under sanctions. The felon has said clearly he will drop all sanctions against Russia on day one (and hand them Ukraine).

When is the felon going to explain the $10 million he took from Egypt, or the policy changes he made immediately afterwards?

Checkmate

Checkmate

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newtboy jokingly says...

No way! That dick just ruined the exceptionally rare special edition oversized Mafex t 800 battle damage version action figure with intact left hand! Boo!

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Where was the “bullet wound”?

Absolutely zero injury visible at his disastrous press conference….just like the photo from July 26 with Netanyahu….not a scratch.

It’s been pointed out that there was not a speck of blood on his hand or shirt, an impossibility if he was shot in the ear and was bleeding profusely…but look at the “fight” photo…not one drop on his white cuff or his white shirt…impossible if he was really “gushing blood” as he claimed.
I’m starting to agree with him that the fbi lied…he wasn’t hit at all, he was cut slightly when he hit the ground, maybe self inflicted. That’s why we will never see the medical records despite the “injury” being questioned.

Don’t forget, the radicalized maggot who shot at him was one of your own.

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Bidenomics saved America from the disaster that was 2020 and before. His worst economic numbers were better than the last guys best. He kept unemployment at a record low for most of his term, and it’s still lower than under the felon who lost almost 3 million jobs and near a million small businesses. 4.2% is pretty much the Goldilocks number, btw. A healthy unemployment is between 3%-5% with around 4% being preferred. 😂
The trade deficit he insisted would be his crown jewel and would turn to below zero instead went UP by 36.3% from 2016 to 2020 despite his trade wars and hundreds of billions paid by American consumers in tariffs and more in subsidies to American producers.
“Illegal immigration” increased 15% under the felon.
Economic growth was a NEGATIVE 2.2% under the felon.
The crime and murder rates rose faster than ever in history under the felon, and are down over 25% under Biden.

And don’t forget Biden just got his 70th political prisoner released including 2 taken by Russia during the last administration without paying a dime or removing sanctions or handing over Ukraine and got 2 prisoners for each criminal we released, unlike the last administration that only got 50 something released, paid cash, removed sanctions, and always got the short end of the deal, once releasing 5000 Taliban for nothing but an agreement they wouldn’t attack us if we left fast. The contrast is stark.

You are such a delusional tool, constantly regurgitating the lies you ate hook line and sinker…like your last post of an adult only closed event you claimed was happening right in front of children.
No surprise you won’t admit it….again. You never can, you have no spine, zero testicular fortitude, zero honor, zero honesty….you are an infant whining in his full diaper screaming that he didn’t poop in them. I’m done listening. I bet your family is too.
The felon has lost, his racism and sexism are on full display, his complete lack of self control is too. His vp is the biggest loser ever, worse than Palin and that’s not an exaggeration (his favorability rating started at -6 and has plunged to a disastrous -15%! The average favorability rating is +19%. The campaign is now at around -9%), and his project 2025 that he supported and praised since 2022 is an anchor he cannot escape. Even Fox polls have her up by as much as 10% and she hasn’t chosen her vp…she’s at a 50%favorable 46%unfavorable (+4%) now, Butigieg could get her to 75% favorability. Good job morons, you couldn’t keep your fascist dictatorial plans to yourselves and now no one believes you about anything but your fascism.
The felon won’t get to use the presidency to escape his vast array of crimes like he planned, and will end his days in Ryker’s Island.

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noims says...

Turns out it wasn't $4 million, it was just a load of dirty underwear.

"Her election was in your hands, Dude!"

An Unfortunate Nameing Accident

noims says...

I remember being a junior coder in a place that prefixed variable names with their type. I had an often-checked boolean (bol) variable that said whether an OCX control was loaded, and feeling grumpy one day I just called it bolOcx. It made me smile each time I saw it, and my co-workers appreciated it too.

When the project was done the client asked to inspect the source code. I like to think they noticed it and saw the funny side of it, but I was definitely nervous handing it over.

bremnet said:

"Unintentional"? ... and they laughed and laughed. Now get back to work.

“Sofaking” JD Vance - I F#@ked A Couch

newtboy says...

As usual, an infantile “nu-uh” with zero substance. Always projection. If you take your head out of there, everything will look less crappy.
Every word, every figure I wrote is verifiable and correct. JD SofaKing 2025 is an unmitigated disaster in every way and is energizing the left far more than the right. Kamala Harris is one of if not the most popular (and accomplished) candidates in living memory with more support than any in history by far.
Enjoy your fantasy world crumbling around you. Zero percent of the black vote in Michigan! ZERO!!!

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-no-black-voters-michigan-poll-kamala-harris-1930542

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bobknight33 said:

Newt, you got more crap in you than a bull.



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