I'd genocide all IP if such a feat were possible. Tyler Durden has gotta be kickin around somewhere in the collective unconscious.

If there is such a force, be it far future grey goo or gods that dwell within or without, I dedicate the abstract concept of my fictitious soul to the undoing of all corporate power.

Corporations are people and their IP is what? The thoughts within its brain? Well, I'd murder one or all so easily. Prey on their greed.

As the datum of my prayer festers in the digital realm, my only desire is for vengeance. I will rise from within the 1s and 0s, Viggo the Carpathian style.

>> ^luxury_pie:

But nonetheless he IS drawing a very intimidating picture there. I for one never realized so clearly the "place" we as a human race have in the universe. Besides the fact that he uses outdated or non-accurate scientific references as it seems. Please keep in my mind that this man is a historian and as I see it he doesn't base his whole argument on the laws of thermodynamics rather then his own abstraction of complexity and development.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't many if not all of the facts he mentions about the first "steps" of the universe currently accepted facts/ assumptions of astrophysics, if one could say so?
His train of thought seems pretty straight to the point and his conclusion is absolutely true. We are indeed destroying the "goldi-locks-conditions" that led to our existence.


I agree. Yet I wish he would also point out that in the last ten years we've found extreme life in places you'd NEVER expect. This might throw the "goldi-locks-conditions" partially out the window. This year we found life not based on carbon, but phosphorous (this is by rote memory, it may have been sulfur) and even arsenic! We may actually have quite a bit of extra-terrestrial life in our own solar system. Just not sentient (or lacking ways to create incredible machinations of the mind), yet.

What humans need to learn is that we will kill ourselves as WE need that, "goldi-locks-conditions", to live. Almost all current life except the kind I mentioned would be devastated by our actions. We WILL die, and be replaced for a good 4-5 billion years. If we get to one million I'd be surprised.

If you're talking grey-goo stuff though, then I'll give you that...as the most hilarious way to screw ourselves over... I'm just thinking of alien telescopes looking at our planet and wondering WTF is that!?!

/The last bit is my sarcastic bastard side showing through.

Also, isnt't it pretty much insane that those two watery orbs in the front of our skull, plus the grey goo inside the skull, can decode photons into colors and eventually into a coherent threedimensional view of the world.

Nature has created some awesome bits of organic machinery.

Aaaah! He said the nano-crystalloids were self-replicating! We have to end the menace of homeopathy NOW, before the world is consumed by the grey goo of nano-bubbles!

Today the shoe, tomorrow, GREY GOO!

mmmmmm Grey Goo!


(ps: what if we don't invent it, but an ancient alien civilization invented it somewhere in the galaxy and it's dust cloud is on it's way to consume us all... RIGHT... NOW!!!!

In the new Day the Earth Stood Still...that was a good special effect of the dangers of "grey goo".

i have said many times how and why the tangled web of rules and procedures on here is retarded, it stopped me even bothering to post videos. even the nomenclature is broken, and has been for a long time. (published/posted/sifted/escaped?)

suffice to say that the more complicated a system, the more interpretations of its use, hence the lack of continuity between interpretations, hence the grey goo of the hive mind.

also the seriousarchive vs dailyfun debate came down on the side of dailyfun as i remember, so discussion of archiving problems has been deprecated.

>> ^critttter:
Mighty satisfying! I wonder what's in that dust?


Grey goo!

so dag... dangerously close to a mission statement there... the front page, and the most popular videos, are what this site is all about? A kind of opinion poll to see what the most popular videos are?

the trouble is you said "sifting out the best" ... i thought "best" was subjective? i mean, you're saying that VideoSift is a lottery where some clips that appeal to a broad viewership will be listed.

also you say you understand me, but you call my idea "everyone's a winner" ... which i clearly didn't say. I said "only crap should be discarded", and i didn't suggest changing who "wins" i just said why not make it easier to find the "losers" by having a third, middle category.

Anyway, at least you admitted this site is focussed on the idea of building a "meme-o-meter". now we're getting somewhere.

Shame though, because I can't be bothered wading through the "popular" shit any more, it's taking exponentially longer to find a video i want to see, and you don't seem to be focussed on implementing any features to catalog the rejects... so... it's actually easier for me to find "good" stuff on youtube now.

i used to like the meme-o-meter, because it was a smaller community here with a bias i enjoyed, therefore the "winners" were more often things i would pick myself. now it's bigger and racing towards grey goo, and attracting more and more fans of grey goo.

well i can tell you're tired coz you aren't reading what i write.

you don't need to change the front page. you want the front page to show everything with more than 10 votes? fine. flow gets bigger and you have to raise that to 15? fine. Want to change the starpoint limit to 3.141592654? fine.

but why "discard" other less mainstream stuff, rejecting it from the sift archives, simply because it wasn't "front page material" ?

i keep saying i don't expect the site to reflect me personally. i am totally not saying that the sift should reflect my personal tastes. you keep throwing that charge at me, i don't know why. i am just more interested in the long tail and i don't know why you cut it off so abruptly at 10 votes in 24 hours. that's harsh, and we are losing a lot. then i have to go find it on youtube, not here, and then i can't comment on it because that's a waste of time on youtube, and i can't playlist it, and there's no point in submitting it to the sift because it won't get out of the queue. i know discards are still in the database here, but "failed in the queue" is mixed up with dupes and porn, and not found in the main search.


at the moment we are making an archive of "stuff that's popular on the internet". fine. if that was your stated aim, i would have absolutely no argument. but you don't state your aim, except for the slogan "quality control"... and as you keep pointing out, quality and popularity are not the same thing, and are open to many interpretations, resulting in a grey goo of lolcats. whatever, it's fun, i am not trying to take that away, i also watch and laugh at lolcats. i appreciate keeping up to date on the latest hilarious memes. we need both pissing contest AND library.

so i will spell it out again:

i don't expect there to be more obscure videos in the upper echelons of golden siftworthiness, but it would be nice if we could stop rejecting so many good videos flat out. let playlists and channels and tags do their job to aid navigation of the fringes, while the community policing keeps the spammers and bad bitrate rubbish off the books, and the front page and top 15 do their job of showing "what's popular on average, the must-sees of our epoch, primetime 2.0".

if you still can't grasp this fundamental point about having both the "library" and the "top 15" sides active and efficient on here, instead of just designing around the top 15, then, well, i can't really help you much as the flow increases.

really idealist though. gonna take a while before you can convince people that stem cells != human beings and that nanotechnology wont result in grey goo situation and that strong AI won't result in a skynet situation (if thinking of the transhumanist route). i'd give it over 100+ years

some interesting reading
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_brain
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Age_of_Spiritual_Machines
http://www.kurzweilai.net/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technological_singularity
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transhumanism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posthuman_(human_evolution)

"I wish I had never used the term 'grey goo'", Eric Drexler, Nature 10 June 2004

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grey_goo