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Steve's Grammar: Is it "Twenty ten" or "Two thousand ten"?

xxovercastxx says...

>> ^kymbos:
Does he do lots of these? Four minutes to tell us the answer? I lasted about a minute. Feel free to tell me where he finally got to, and hopefully it won't be 'you can use either'.


There is no "answer", that's why it's called Steve's Grammatical Observations.

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NetRunner says...

^ To be honest, I'm going off of what I saw on hotforwords for the cop thing. I don't know if she's authoritative, but she did address the notion that cop was short for copper badges, but said that's not really the origin.

If you want a semantic battle, I'll waste a few brain cells on it. Let's start with the etymology of the word semantic itself:

1894, from Fr. sémantique, applied by Michel Bréal (1883) to the psychology of language, from Gk. semantikos "significant," from semainein "to show, signify, indicate by a sign," from sema "sign" (Doric sama).

In short, semantics refer to the method or process of how people communicate ideas. Normally discussions of semantics are about accurately conveying an idea or concept with words. For example, how do people know the difference between their, they're and there in spoken language? Why doesn't that kind of overloading create a lot communication issues?

A big part of the answer is context. With they're, their, and there, all you need to really know is the grammatical part of speech. Other concepts need a semantic context.

For example, let's talk about a red light. A red traffic light means stop, but a red light in other context might mean that your stereo is in standby mode, your phone is charging, or you're getting close to the whorehouse.

It can also be used metaphorically, as in "She told him she didn't want to see him anymore, but he just loves to run red lights."

I find that you can be selectively obtuse about these different ways of discerning meaning from words.

When I say "I am a liberal", I usually mean this, and not necessarily this.

However, I don't really think being a liberal necessarily is in conflict with being a liberal. I too have a strong devotion to individual liberty, I just think there are more fundamental human rights than you do. But I also think there are limits to rights, and that there's no root violation of "individual liberty" if you have taxpayer subsidized, compulsory social insurance, any more than if you have a taxpayer subsizied, compulsory fire department.

But I don't need to express all of that if what I'm really saying is "I don't think liberals like to be told to think." There's no real doubt about who I'm talking about when I say "liberals". My semantics are clear.

If one wanted to respond to such an assertion, they would take on its semantic content. In other words, they'd say "broad generalizations like that are bad", or "bullshit, liberals are all zombies that do what George Soros tells them to", or even address the implication, such as "conservatives don't like to be told what to think, either!", or "I believe what I believe, and if Rush Limbaugh agrees with me, then I suppose he's on my side."

Incidentally, here's a good etymology of the word liberal. Personally, I'm using the original root definition, "befitting free men, noble, generous," when I describe the people who believe in this. When I'm referring to anti-tax zealots, I'm usually dancing around this, but I can also come up with more scathing barbs as the situation merits.

Asian Chick's Awesome Hand Ninja

Gabe_b says...

>> ^shagen454:
Oh man, the title of this video reminds me of some hipster guy (not that I have anything wrong with "cool" people or whatever label we need to give people who are culturally aware) that pissed me off yesterday. I go to a certain liquor store a couple of times a week and usually there is this korean guy who is the owner working. I went into the liquor store, see this young white kid working the register that I've never seen before. He was kind of awkward in the way that he was overly conscious that he was working in a shitty liquor store - so as he is bagging up my beer I try to make small talk and ask, "where is the asian guy?" I thought it inoffensive enough ; just trying to make the situation less awkward and this kid responds, "what?" and I repeated and he replied "He's Korean." I didn't really give a shit to get into an argument about it considering Korea or South Korea is specified as East Asia. Did I really make a horrible mistake or was this kid just a total dick?


Kid was probably just feeling awkward and blurted out the first thing he thought.

A mediocre translation attempt for anyone who cares :
"How do you do. I would like to show you taekwondo [debatable she does that bit super fast]
"Ready?" [Fighting sounds]
"One more time" [Fighting sounds]
"You also do Taekwondo" [Fighting sounds]
"You too do Taekwondo" [Fighting sounds]
"Then... "
[Counting one to ten while doing press ups]
"Could someone please give me some help?"
Second hand "What would you like me to do?"
"This ____ please" [Couldn't make out the verb ~_~. Could be "hold"]
"Certainly sir"
[More counting]
"Now, are you feeling well?"
"Now, in a moment the champion will arrive" [yay for konglish]
"So, champion has won the belt. What move did you do to win the champions belt?"
Second Hand: "What move did I do?"
"Yup" [Champion hand attacks Sansaengnim hand]
"No, no stop!!"
Second hand: "Cobra Twist!"
[After many listens the only word I can make out is "Animal", Doesn't seem to be a grammatical sentence as it has a noun at the end. so I'm gonna guess "Now I will fight this animal" :-/]
"No no, stop it"
Monster Hand: "Farewell"

Anyway, the language is Korean and the hand dude is supposed to be a taekwondo instructer rather than a karate sensei if you wanna add a tag. Taekwondo doesn't get much love.

As the grumpy hipster said to the shagen454 "[s]He's Korean"

Slow news day? No problem! We've got sliding cars.

lucky760 says...

For the record, neither "We got sliding cars" nor "We've got sliding cars" is grammatically correct. (It reminds me of "You've got mail.")

It should be "We'ins all have done got our selfs some mean sliding ass cars."

You just got learned.

BBC Newsnight Heated Debate Over "Climategate"

dystopianfuturetoday says...

>> ^Drax:
>> ^osama1234:
This reminds me of Ann Coulter's "Canada sent troop to vietnam" type thing, where the canadian reporter said, " no we didn't sent throops". She then replied, "No, I'm sure, they did".

...and they did.
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Did_Canada_send_troops_to_Vietnam
Quite a few in fact, it sounds.
Canada awarded medals to 1,550 of these troops for their service between August 7, 1954 and January 28, 1973.


Did you even read past the title?

The "wikianswer" you've linked to says the Canadian "troops" (sic) were "part of the International Control Commission for Vietnam, a neutral body meant to oversee and report on the peace deal that ended the first indochina war (French vs. Vietminh" (sic) So, if we are to take this grammatically-challenged anonymous article at it's word, there are 2 major problems with it.

1) The International Control Commission is an international body, not Canadian.
2) They were sent as peacekeepers, not military "troops".

Be more critical of what you read.

Hedonistic machine lubricates itself

choggie says...

^After that initial critique you call yourself, TheFreak!!?? (by the way that last sentence is grammatically incorrect and the one before that is called, incomplete!!)
!!! I wanna fuck that machine !!!

Sarah Palin Book Signing - Meet The Fans

longde says...

WP,

Please point to one intellectual paper or essay or speech, devoid of stupid factual and/or grammatical errors, that Sarah Palin has done. Given her local and national mishaps, the burden of proof is on people like you to prove she is not stupid.

Being stupid is enough to disqualify one for president in my book. I have not heard or read one of her defenders convey a story of proven success of governance from that woman. When she had a chance to prove to everyone she could handle being an executive, by leading the administration of Alaska, she quit to go on the talk show circuit.

She will have her own talk show within 3 years, replacing Coulter and Malkin as the wingnut hottie. I do fervently hope she runs, however. She clearly has enough support from the prole contingent to win the repub nomination. I would give this know-nothing candidate my full support.

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rottenseed says...

haha thanks dude I needed a good laugh

In reply to this comment by blankfist:
She must be a public school teacher. Not dissing on your mom, but I learned a lot of bad grammatical habits from the public school system. For my junior and senior year of high school, my English teacher (same one both years) taught us only Literature because she despised teaching Grammar.

She was also as big as a house and would order a family meal for herself (never married), and so to save face she would order two drinks so the kids in the drive through wouldn't think she was ordering all of that food for herself.

Whative F*ck (Blog Entry by rottenseed)

blankfist says...

She must be a public school teacher. Not dissing on your mom, but I learned a lot of bad grammatical habits from the public school system. For my junior and senior year of high school, my English teacher (same one both years) taught us only Literature because she despised teaching Grammar.

She was also as big as a house and would order a family meal for herself (never married), and so to save face she would order two drinks so the kids in the drive through wouldn't think she was ordering all of that food for herself.

Glenn Moon - Craziest politician ever?

Equation

rottenseed says...

>> ^oohahh:
>> ^rottenseed:
the actual answer was "I fucked you're mother" so they were wrong mathematically and grammatically.

Are we really going to debate the grammatical correctness of a yomama joke? Honestly?
Yomama so stupid, but even she knows you're wrong when she's in your bed with me.
<3,
oohahh
PS The video is correct, you're not.

It was a joke...next time I'll remember to stick to knock knock jokes with you

Equation

oohahh says...

>> ^rottenseed:
the actual answer was "I fucked you're mother" so they were wrong mathematically and grammatically.

Are we really going to debate the grammatical correctness of a yomama joke? Honestly?

Yomama so stupid, but even she knows you're wrong when she's in your bed with me.

<3,
oohahh

PS The video is correct, you're not.

Equation



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