? That is weird. It's working on my page. GodTube starting a holy war w/ Siftbot?

Is this video posted on www.godtube.com ?
I'd be interested to see what klind of comments it would get there.

I apologize for a double post, but what I wanted to say seemed to beig to be processed in one post.

written by joedirt

"As for any hidden agenda, I have none. I admit, I do hope I can tell others about Christ while I am here, but I will not be sneaky about it. "


"ZOMG!! We really are not in need of saving around here. I realize some people have a calling, and those people should go watch the evangelical bowling girl video.

If you want to peddle God to us, fine, just don't demand we be civil. If you want to have a civil discussion about religion, fine, just don't go around pushing your beliefs and Christian whatever as more correct, or needing to be given equal weight of sensititivity whatever. Once you used the term 'believer' you showed your hand as a concern troll trying to improve some level of discourse.

Look, this site has tons of debate, politics, religion, islam, asian, GodTube videos. Just because it is not 90% Team Jesus is probably more a reflection that the world is in fact a world where Christians are a minority, and you can take your one correct answer and spread the word somewhere where people have time to care."
What have I pushed so far? Nothing so much as that we should try to be civil to each other and that neither theists nor atheists can prove their beliefs to be truth through logic. No as for whether or not my beliefs desrve equal respect, that is up to you to decide. All I asked however is that we not attack each other. That we be civil. I really don't see why I am getting all this flak for just hoping that we can get along.

As for telling others about Christ while I am here, I refuse to just act like I don't care whether or not people know Christ, but I will force nothing on anybody. If someone wants to hear it I will be here. Other than that, no, I won't be hitting everyone over the head with a Bible. Come on, give me a little credit here!

Look, I have lurked here for a while. I know there are tons of videos on religion. I noticed that any dealing with Christianity were either there to be made fun of or when someone actually tried to be civil about anything, some lets say less than civil comments where left about anyone who believed. I don't think that has to be the case. I want to help people try to understand Christianity a little better. Maybe then they won't be so quick to bash it believers.

On a side note that video you spoke of here, this is just sad. The girl in this video is simply to young to even begin to fanthom God. This is just plain brainwashing. They have instilled in her some of the rethoric, quotes, and bible verses, but she has no clue what any of it means. She just wants to try...something. She is still too young to make that kind of decision for herself and I really think that someone forced her into this thing and just brainwashed her. Unless a child that age has experienced the death of someone close to them, they really won't think about God or the Bible. I think she is really got in emotion more than the Holy Spirit. This troubles me...
Does anyone have any more information on this?

written by swampgirl
"silentpoet said: "Yes, I am new around here."

No kidding! Just coming back here after a day since you posted. I noticed the "P" still here. I have to take issue with that. The folks here normally never discourage a new member, but this time I have to.

It doesn't matter what your mission is whether it's saving the world or making sure everyone's wearing matching socks. You're not even a member yet..you just look like a glorified troll right now.

So.... (in "Christ" of course ) please... shut up, put up ...and gather a few ears that wants to hear before you wear you welcome out before you even get started."
Geez, I already stated above I would post some toher videos. Just give me some time. I have been busy. Besides, I cannot post another video til my first one gets through.

written by joedirt
"For silentpoet: Look in a irony mirror dude...


http://www.videosift.com/video/8-Reasons-Why-I-Dont-Share-My-Faith"
See? That is what I am talking about. I have yet to preach anything from the Bible. All I asked is that we try to be civil, and it is like I did something horrible. I didn't throw anything in your face. I didn't tell anyone they're going to Hell. I never even talked about Jesus! Why am I receiving so much fuss over something I haven't even done as of yet?!

Time to find some more "classic" godtube videos so I can really draw out more online missionaries.

As for any hidden agenda, I have none. I admit, I do hope I can tell others about Christ while I am here, but I will not be sneaky about it.

ZOMG!! We really are not in need of saving around here. I realize some people have a calling, and those people should go watch the evangelical bowling girl video.

If you want to peddle God to us, fine, just don't demand we be civil. If you want to have a civil discussion about religion, fine, just don't go around pushing your beliefs and Christian whatever as more correct, or needing to be given equal weight of sensititivity whatever. Once you used the term 'believer' you showed your hand as a concern troll trying to improve some level of discourse.

Look, this site has tons of debate, politics, religion, islam, asian, GodTube videos. Just because it is not 90% Team Jesus is probably more a reflection that the world is in fact a world where Christians are a minority, and you can take your one correct answer and spread the word somewhere where people have time to care.

written by joedirt
"LOL (that means "laugh out loud" since you are new to the intertubes)...

Look, do you realize what Westy's avatar (the picture by his name) is?? And the whole typing to be illegible thing?? FFS it is humorous banter just to get a reaction out of people or just to spout off whatever the hell he feels like saying.

This is the internet and mixing in religion... and you are going to be offended by *that*??

"the Bible already told us this would happen"
No, God's words somehow divinely ended up in the Bible. Poor, "believers" have it so rough. What about believers who think rote learned dogma is stupid? That's a believer.

What I think is that a rash of GodTube submissions showed some folks over there the power of the VS traffic, and all of the sudden videosift heathens need saved. That's what I think is happening with all the recent sensitive folks.

There are like 100 better examples on the sift of insensitive, pagan blashpheming and general ranting but all anyone cares about is one toe torso guy.

I am new to this site, however I am not new to the internet. The language in internet lingo is appcreciated, but not needed.
As for Westy, I don't care if he is just doing what he does to get a thrill, it is simply wrong.

I think it is possible to openly discuss God in a civil manner. I at least will try.

As for the rest of Christianity, I never said we were perfect. I will try to be civil and open in the discussion and I ask that others do the same, believer or not.

Question: do you think that I came from GodTube? If so, that is not the case. I used StumbleUpon to find this site and thought it was pretty cool. I mostly lurked here for several weeks, and today (or tonight) was the first day of my contribution.

You are right. They are better examples out there. In fact, I gathered all the ad hominem posts out ther concering belief and unbelief, I would have a very, very, very long post, no?

written by karaidl
"JD has a point - This is the second time someone wrote in about Westy's and Gluonium's comments on just one video. I suppose all the others counted for nothing."

I suppose. Sorry, but I just didn't have enough time to post every single ad hominem. I will try to post that in a seperate thread later. Anyhow, I used or tried to use Westy's post as an example of what not to do. The link to the video was posted in a thread whose link was posted here. I figured everyone would have seen it and knew what I was talking about.

In conclusion, I really don't think it is too much to ask that we treat each other with respect. So why am I getting some heat for pointing out what shouldn't be done? Yeah, the is bad coming from both sides, and, yes, I did post an example from only one side, but I never said one side or the other was blameless.

LOL (that means "laugh out loud" since you are new to the intertubes)...

Look, do you realize what Westy's avatar (the picture by his name) is?? And the whole typing to be illegible thing?? FFS it is humorous banter just to get a reaction out of people or just to spout off whatever the hell he feels like saying.

This is the internet and mixing in religion... and you are going to be offended by *that*??

"the Bible already told us this would happen"
No, God's words somehow divinely ended up in the Bible. Poor, "believers" have it so rough. What about believers who think rote learned dogma is stupid? That's a believer.

What I think is that a rash of GodTube submissions showed some folks over there the power of the VS traffic, and all of the sudden videosift heathens need saved. That's what I think is happening with all the recent sensitive folks.

There are like 100 better examples on the sift of insensitive, pagan blashpheming and general ranting but all anyone cares about is one toe torso guy.

Fletch posts 6 vids in this playlist: "Islam - Died in the Queue" after the conversation with Gwaan in this video:
http://www.videosift.com/video/Children-in-militant-Kindergarten-Ceremony
which was posted a full day before this thread began.

But the point I saw was that all these videos made it through the queue:

http://www.videosift.com/video/Crazy-super-fundie-christian-freak-on-Trading-Spouses
http://www.videosift.com/video/Kirk-Cameron-The-Evolution-Zone
http://www.videosift.com/video/Sam-Harris-lectures-on-the-dangers-of-both-religious-fundamentalism-and-religious-moderation
http://www.videosift.com/video/Crazy-American-Fundamentalist-Christian
http://www.videosift.com/video/Dispatches-The-New-Fundamentalists-on-Channel-4
http://www.videosift.com/video/Doin-Nails-for-Jesus--from-Jesus-Camp
http://www.videosift.com/video/God-Hates-Fags
http://www.videosift.com/video/The-Secret-Life-Of-Brian-Monty-Pythonreligion-documentary
http://www.videosift.com/video/Alan-Moore-discusses-religion-with-Stewart-Lee
http://www.videosift.com/video/Louis-Thereuxs-Weird-Weekend-Televangelists-next-5-inside
http://www.videosift.com/video/Richard-Dawkins-BBC-Interview
http://www.videosift.com/video/Gods-Next-Army-evangelicalpolitical-documentary-212
http://www.videosift.com/video/Christopher-Hitches-on-the-Death-of-Jerry-Falwell
http://www.videosift.com/video/Voltron-the-Transformers-are-the-work-of-Satan
http://www.videosift.com/video/Fundamentalism-vs-Evolution-The-Train-Crash
http://www.videosift.com/video/The-Passion-of-Christ-2-Judgement-Day
http://www.videosift.com/video/UFO-Obsesed-Christians-Science-Public-Access-Television
http://www.videosift.com/video/Stephen-Lynch-Craig-Christ
http://www.videosift.com/video/The-Atheist-P-Funk-is-Accosted-by-Christian-Evangelists
http://www.videosift.com/video/the-chapman-brothers-jump-rope-for-the-glory-of-god
http://www.videosift.com/video/Pope-has-never-read-Bible--Violence-Contrary-to-Gods-Nature
http://www.videosift.com/video/Jesus-Camp-on-Bill-Maher
http://www.videosift.com/video/Jesus-Heal-My-Masturbation-Genes-Story
http://www.videosift.com/video/The-God-Who-Wasnt-There-2005-documentary-film-1-hour
http://www.videosift.com/video/The-Blasphemy-Challenge
http://www.videosift.com/video/QI-Christmas-Christianity-and-Mithras-Funny
http://www.videosift.com/video/Pulitzer-prize-winner-compares-US-Christian-Right-to-Fascism
http://www.videosift.com/video/Robert-Johnson-Expose-by-Christian-Group
http://www.videosift.com/video/Sign-of-the-Apocalypse-Christian-Comedy
http://www.videosift.com/video/Man-Says-Hes-Jesus-Followers-Get-666-Tattoos
http://www.videosift.com/video/Who-gives-you-candy-Jesus-or-Castroanti-commie-film-clip
http://www.videosift.com/video/Louis-Thereuxs-Weird-Weekend-Televangelists-next-5-inside
http://www.videosift.com/video/Kevin-Smith-about-Mel-Gibson
http://www.videosift.com/video/An-atheist-among-Christians-for-30-days
http://www.videosift.com/video/Chocolate-Jesus-Makes-Catholics-CRAZY
http://www.videosift.com/video/Jesus-Camp-controversial-2006-Evangelical-documentary
http://www.videosift.com/video/Stewart-Lee-Dont-get-me-started-
http://www.videosift.com/video/Ted-Haggard-Is-Completely-Heterosexual-by-Roy-Zimmerman
http://www.videosift.com/video/Mike-Daiseys-Christian-Audience-Protest-Walkout-and-Attack
http://www.videosift.com/video/God-is-not-Great-Stewart-interviews-Hitchens
http://www.videosift.com/video/Dr-Seuss-Bible
http://www.videosift.com/video/Kirk-Cameron-on-the-OReilly-Factor
http://www.videosift.com/video/School-Prayer-Debate-Turns-To-Hitler-Debate http://www.videosift.com/video/Doug-Stanhope-Why-I-dont-Believe
http://www.videosift.com/video/How-to-Witness-to-a-Homosexual
http://www.videosift.com/video/Self-Induced-Religious-Fit
http://www.videosift.com/video/Bill-Maher-interviews-Christoper-Hitchens
http://www.videosift.com/video/Submissive-Jesus
http://www.videosift.com/video/Bill-Mahers-New-Rules-Heaven-Can-Hate
http://www.videosift.com/video/United-States-of-Jesus
http://www.videosift.com/video/GodTube-how-to-deal-with-pr0n-on-the-intertubes
http://www.videosift.com/video/The-Atheist-Delusion
http://www.videosift.com/video/Miracles-and-Morals
http://www.videosift.com/video/Life-and-Liberty-for-All-Who-Believe
http://www.videosift.com/video/Let-the-bodies-hit-the-floor-religious-smackdown
http://www.videosift.com/video/The-Evangelical-War-On-Science

A Christianica collective would be almost immediately devoured by all of the dreadful but lovely GodTube material out there.

A little Ray Comfort goes a long way . . .

Ok, I just read those comments and that is what we call a debate, while westy may not be as eloquent as some he is just trying to get his point across. Now this person who emailed and said the comments are "absolutely shocking in their rabid, nearly psychotic intolerance." is way out in left field. So far out in left field that it makes me wonder if they are just trying to squash the opinions that are not in line with their own.

Is westy intolerant of religion? no more so than if the shoe was on the other foot. I am sure westy is more intolerant than some, and not as much as others, it comes with the territory.

I am an atheist and didn't start calling myslef one until about 2 years ago, but I have known it all my life. I went to church every Sunday and went to Sunday school and was even baptised. For as long as I can remember I have always perceived religion as a cult. Now over the past few years with the proliferation of people who feel like I do taking it to the net with videos and forums, you are getting a lot of people who call themselves atheists becoming more and more vocal. This scares a lot of people and thus you get counter videos and stuff like godtube, etc. I can see how some atheists try to shout loudly from the rooftops to get their point across, because to us the idea if religion is rather silly and the fact that we watch it as it permeates our life, government, schools, etc is rather frightening. So you get very vocal and somewhat intolerant opinions. To me I can see how it appears to be a battle and I can understand why there is intolerance from the atheist perspective, I can also see how the religious side feels the same way towards us. But the bottom line is it should be ok for me or westy or whoever to say that we feel someone is off their fucking rocker to believe a certain way and why we think that. That being said I am tolerant of religion as long as it doesn't try to effect my way of life, make rules for me, get tought to my kids without my knowledge, and shove it's opinions on me when I don't care to hear it. And I try to do the same to those who have faith, I do not go around spouting my non-beliefs to people around me because to do so would be hypocritical.
I would like to think the two sides can live together and respect each others turf, not sure it will happen anytime soon though.

Ahh GodTube. So very ridunculous. Jerking off helps me not bang gross chicks from the bar.

I just copied code from GodTube and it worked. There wasn't anything else to do.

Damn, these Godtube videos just exploded onto the Sift. Ant's downvotes are going to go insane.

I love how the Flash player used when viewing clips directly on Godtube.com is a complete ripoff (minus a few color changes) of YouTube's player. Wonder why it becomes a totally different player when used in embeds?

Godtube rules!!!