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Now if you're going to teabag, this is how you do it

jerryku says...

>> ^spoco2:
This doesn't get a WTF from me in the sense of 'Holy cow, are they really doing that?'
This gets a WTF from me in the sense of 'Really, people older than about 12 years old find this sort of stuff entertaining?'
Really, Anime fricken leaves me so cold. People wax on and on and on and on about how it's so damn superior to western animation, but really, so much of it is lazy (a LOT has an awful lot of static image in the frame with barely a mouth moving), outlets for the repression of the Japanese culture. The amount of violence and sexual abuse that is in these things is truly horrible. I found the violence funny when I was a kid, but after that, it just bores the pants off me.


How do you know this anime was made for people above the age of 12? Studio Ghibli films are usually for kids, I thought.

As for the rest of your post, I certainly spend more time enjoying animation that's "Made in Japan" than animation that's "Made in America", but I don't see why I should care either way. I'm an American. If I draw a shitty cartoon in my basement, am I automatically an example of shitty American animation? At what point is my failure my own and not my country's? Factor in multi-national corporations/ownership and the whole issue becomes even more muddled. Dreamworks and Pixar, to my knowledge, are the sole two animation companies in "The West" that are admired, and Dreamworks is owned by an Indian company based in Mumbai. Elsewhere, multiple anime titles have been and are being produced by Japanese studios specifically to appeal to "Western" audiences (read: white middle class youth), or at the very least significantly factor in their interests.

Anyway, the giant budget 3D animated movies cost dozens of millions of dollars to produce, and only offer up perhaps 90 minutes of entertainment after years of production time (The Incredibles cost $92 million, Wall-E: a whopping $180 million). Because of the massive budgets these movies require, the scripts of these films rarely take any risks. Everything's rated G and has a story that is very "lowest common denominator" in my eyes. I'm getting far too old to enjoy these films beyond their technical merits, since their target audience is primarily below the age of 14.

Meanwhile, partially due to smaller budget requirements in anime production, I can choose all sorts of anime that tries to cater to a slightly older crowd. Very little anime attempts to appeal to anyone above the age of 30, but even in the "age 13-18" type shows, there's interesting themes to chew on. One of my fav animes, Gundam, is basically Star Trek with robots. Its creators have described the show as a humanist show, and the shows take on imperialism, racism, and war really line up with what I saw in the humanist Star Trek shows (I loved TNG/DS9). Since Star Trek has been dead for a while, it's nice to have a place to go to (btw: the upcoming movie will abandon much of what the shows were about in favor of violence and sex). Most Gundam shows are about a teenage boy who hops into a war robot, gets traumatized by war, manipulated by corrupt politicians into fighting questionable wars, and deals with issues of imperialism. Not the most intellectually challenging stuff in the world, I know, but it sure beats what I've seen in stuff like 24 or Heroes and a lot of other dramas on the major networks. And those are aimed at considerably older demographics. I think the much smaller budget requirements of anime helps studios create things for niche demographics (such as sci-fi loving humanists) and that's good for me. Are they technically superior to something like Wall-E? Not by a long shot. But a 1,000 minute Gundam series didn't cost $180 million every 90 minutes either, and yet still left me more entertained.

Now if you're going to teabag, this is how you do it

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volumptuous says...

>> ^ant:
OK, so what does this make this TV series popular? I watched a few clips, but they don't hit me.


Well, we worked our asses off for five years on that show. Basically our motto was "Myazaki every two weeks". We tried to do in two weeks what Myazaki/Ghibli took two years to create.

I think the stories, the arching narratives, the art direction, and obviously the hi-intesity and wicked kung-fu sequences were/are something that has never been produced in the US animation market. But this is why we also used Japanese animation studios, instead of Korean or Phillipine studios. (we did character setups here, the rest of the in-betweens were done overseas). The Japanese studios have a certain grace in what they do, and I hope it shows through on-screen.

The show is not for everyone, and even I get sick of some of the dialogue and cutesy girly stuff here and there. But, I think what we managed to pull-off with a TV production budget was pretty astounding.

GHIBLI Concert part 3 - Kiki's Delivery Service

JTZ says...

It's from the film Kiki's Kiki's Delivery Service. You can get that on DVD.
As to the Concert itself, it was a Studio GHIBLI concert. August 2008. I am not sure if the concert footage is on dvd outside of Japan, I think you may be able to get the concert on dvd from Amazon JP.

>> ^gunjam:
Does anyone know where this is taken from, and if I can buy it on DVD?

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The Little Match Girl

Sylvester_Ink says...

>> ^ponceleon:
Wow... Disney are douches.
A: They sugar coated this like everything else they touch. This would have been 100% more powerful if it ended like the original story.
B: And even after sugar-coating it, they STILL buried it in some extra features on a dvd.
This is why Ghibli > Disney. Disney doesn't want to challenge our kids, just feed them shit they can use to sell toys to trips to disneyworld.
Edit: I'm voting up because I feel it is about as close as Disney has gotten in recent years to a good piece of animation.


Actually, Disney's version here is almost EXACTLY like the original Hans Christen Anderson story, with some minor changes to accommodate the style. The beginning of the story (which gives a bit more detail about the grandmother, as well as the girl's family) has been cut out because it wouldn't fit with the rest of the short, which is supposed to be a silent film of sorts. However, this omission does nothing to change the theme and impact of the story, as the rest of the short more than makes up for it. The only other difference is that the animation takes place in Russia instead of Holland, a change which I rather prefer for the visual style.

As for the ending, make no mistake about it, the girl dies. You can see her body after her "spirit" fades into the distance with her grandmother's spirit. Perhaps you missed that.

The Little Match Girl

ponceleon says...

Wow... Disney are douches.

A: They sugar coated this like everything else they touch. This would have been 100% more powerful if it ended like the original story.
B: And even after sugar-coating it, they STILL buried it in some extra features on a dvd.

This is why Ghibli > Disney. Disney doesn't want to challenge our kids, just feed them shit they can use to sell toys to trips to disneyworld.

Edit: I'm voting up because I feel it is about as close as Disney has gotten in recent years to a good piece of animation.

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