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therealblankman (Member Profile)

silvercord says...

If that happened to me, the Environmental Protection Agency would have had me arrested for fouling the waters with my own waste. I envy your experience. Love Vancouver. Have you ever been north to Malibu?



In reply to this comment by therealblankman:
The croc was pretty cool. I might have upvoted if he'd succeeded in stealing dinner from those jerks .

I'm reminded of a story from a few years back. I live in Vancouver and have spent a lot of time out on the local waters and have experienced Killer whales close up on several occasions- once when out alone in a small 12 foot Laser sailing dinghy I was surrounded by a pod of a dozen or so VERY large whales- a little intimidating to be surrounded by those predators who are much bigger than me and the tiny boat I'm sitting in with my butt less then 3 inches from the water. They circled me several times, jumping and spy-hopping to check me out. One of the coolest experiences of my life. But I digress.

There had never been an attack by Killer whales in our waters on a boat or a person, until about 6 or 8 years ago. There was a graddad and grandson out salmon fishing in a small aluminum boat in the waters between Victoria and Vancouver. The grandson hooked a big Chinook and was reeling it in when a Killer whale, who was part of a pod in the area that was feeding on the salmon, decided he wanted that salmon that the kid had hooked. The whale nipped at the fish, taking about half of it off with a little bite, but the kid wasn't about to give in to the whale. He reeled in as quick as he could, the whole while with the whale trying to take the fish.

The kid actually managed to land the salmon, pissing off the whale in the process. The whale banged against the boat several times, nearly upsetting the little craft. Eventually he went away, I presume sulking the whole time.

I dunno, I think I would have let him have the fish.



In reply to this comment by silvercord:
No problems. People are barbaric. This was an example of that, I suppose. I was more interested in the brave croc that decided to stand up to all five of 'em to try and get a meal.

Thanks for the explanation, Blankman.



In reply to this comment by therealblankman:
Looking at my own comment on your video, I thought I was a bit harsh. Sorry about that, but it really made me angry watching this video and seeing a bunch of fat, rich, ignorant, over-priveleged jerks proving their "bravery" by killing a beautiful animal like that shark. It's exactly this BS that has driven all the great top predators of the world- lions, tigers, wolves and now sharks to the brink of, and sometimes past, extinction.

I might not have been so angry if I hadn't watched the documentary "Shark Water" a few days ago.

In reply to this comment by silvercord:
From Liveleak:

The video, posted last month by the Cape Don Barramundi fishing lodge in the Northern Territory, records an epic angling saga that pitched man against shark, shark against shark, crocodile against shark and, eventually, man against crocodile.

All appears to be going well when the clip begins, with one of the party land More..ing a fair-sized shark as he fishes off the side of a yacht. Things become more exciting when another shark swims in for an easy lunch, prompting the cameraman to note: "Oh! Another shark's attacking him!"

The valiant angler labours on, and before long the greedy interloper disappears and the thrashing shark is dragged on to the beach with the help of a boathook. But the triumph is short-lived. Within seconds the dark green outline of a saltwater crocodile appears at the water's edge and the reptile dashes on to the beach to make a grab for the shark.

Disaster is averted only by the swift intervention of another member of the fishing party, who leaps towards the thief and delivers a warning blow to its snout with the boathook. Suitably chastised, the croc turns tail and swims off.

The video ends with the slightly shaken group posing for a photo around the unfortunate shark. The man who landed it seems a little distracted and has to be reminded there is a protocol for such occasions. "You've got to do the old put-a-foot-on-its-head thing," the cameraman reminds him.

Crocodiles in the area appear to have realised it is often easier to let the humans do the work. Last November the Northern Territory News reported that a three-metre "saltie" spied on a group of fishermen before tucking into the shark they had just reeled in.

silvercord (Member Profile)

therealblankman says...

The croc was pretty cool. I might have upvoted if he'd succeeded in stealing dinner from those jerks .

I'm reminded of a story from a few years back. I live in Vancouver and have spent a lot of time out on the local waters and have experienced Killer whales close up on several occasions- once when out alone in a small 12 foot Laser sailing dinghy I was surrounded by a pod of a dozen or so VERY large whales- a little intimidating to be surrounded by those predators who are much bigger than me and the tiny boat I'm sitting in with my butt less then 3 inches from the water. They circled me several times, jumping and spy-hopping to check me out. One of the coolest experiences of my life. But I digress.

There had never been an attack by Killer whales in our waters on a boat or a person, until about 6 or 8 years ago. There was a graddad and grandson out salmon fishing in a small aluminum boat in the waters between Victoria and Vancouver. The grandson hooked a big Chinook and was reeling it in when a Killer whale, who was part of a pod in the area that was feeding on the salmon, decided he wanted that salmon that the kid had hooked. The whale nipped at the fish, taking about half of it off with a little bite, but the kid wasn't about to give in to the whale. He reeled in as quick as he could, the whole while with the whale trying to take the fish.

The kid actually managed to land the salmon, pissing off the whale in the process. The whale banged against the boat several times, nearly upsetting the little craft. Eventually he went away, I presume sulking the whole time.

I dunno, I think I would have let him have the fish.



In reply to this comment by silvercord:
No problems. People are barbaric. This was an example of that, I suppose. I was more interested in the brave croc that decided to stand up to all five of 'em to try and get a meal.

Thanks for the explanation, Blankman.



In reply to this comment by therealblankman:
Looking at my own comment on your video, I thought I was a bit harsh. Sorry about that, but it really made me angry watching this video and seeing a bunch of fat, rich, ignorant, over-priveleged jerks proving their "bravery" by killing a beautiful animal like that shark. It's exactly this BS that has driven all the great top predators of the world- lions, tigers, wolves and now sharks to the brink of, and sometimes past, extinction.

I might not have been so angry if I hadn't watched the documentary "Shark Water" a few days ago.

In reply to this comment by silvercord:
From Liveleak:

The video, posted last month by the Cape Don Barramundi fishing lodge in the Northern Territory, records an epic angling saga that pitched man against shark, shark against shark, crocodile against shark and, eventually, man against crocodile.

All appears to be going well when the clip begins, with one of the party land More..ing a fair-sized shark as he fishes off the side of a yacht. Things become more exciting when another shark swims in for an easy lunch, prompting the cameraman to note: "Oh! Another shark's attacking him!"

The valiant angler labours on, and before long the greedy interloper disappears and the thrashing shark is dragged on to the beach with the help of a boathook. But the triumph is short-lived. Within seconds the dark green outline of a saltwater crocodile appears at the water's edge and the reptile dashes on to the beach to make a grab for the shark.

Disaster is averted only by the swift intervention of another member of the fishing party, who leaps towards the thief and delivers a warning blow to its snout with the boathook. Suitably chastised, the croc turns tail and swims off.

The video ends with the slightly shaken group posing for a photo around the unfortunate shark. The man who landed it seems a little distracted and has to be reminded there is a protocol for such occasions. "You've got to do the old put-a-foot-on-its-head thing," the cameraman reminds him.

Crocodiles in the area appear to have realised it is often easier to let the humans do the work. Last November the Northern Territory News reported that a three-metre "saltie" spied on a group of fishermen before tucking into the shark they had just reeled in.

therealblankman (Member Profile)

silvercord says...

No problems. People are barbaric. This was an example of that, I suppose. I was more interested in the brave croc that decided to stand up to all five of 'em to try and get a meal.

Thanks for the explanation, Blankman.



In reply to this comment by therealblankman:
Looking at my own comment on your video, I thought I was a bit harsh. Sorry about that, but it really made me angry watching this video and seeing a bunch of fat, rich, ignorant, over-priveleged jerks proving their "bravery" by killing a beautiful animal like that shark. It's exactly this BS that has driven all the great top predators of the world- lions, tigers, wolves and now sharks to the brink of, and sometimes past, extinction.

I might not have been so angry if I hadn't watched the documentary "Shark Water" a few days ago.

In reply to this comment by silvercord:
From Liveleak:

The video, posted last month by the Cape Don Barramundi fishing lodge in the Northern Territory, records an epic angling saga that pitched man against shark, shark against shark, crocodile against shark and, eventually, man against crocodile.

All appears to be going well when the clip begins, with one of the party land More..ing a fair-sized shark as he fishes off the side of a yacht. Things become more exciting when another shark swims in for an easy lunch, prompting the cameraman to note: "Oh! Another shark's attacking him!"

The valiant angler labours on, and before long the greedy interloper disappears and the thrashing shark is dragged on to the beach with the help of a boathook. But the triumph is short-lived. Within seconds the dark green outline of a saltwater crocodile appears at the water's edge and the reptile dashes on to the beach to make a grab for the shark.

Disaster is averted only by the swift intervention of another member of the fishing party, who leaps towards the thief and delivers a warning blow to its snout with the boathook. Suitably chastised, the croc turns tail and swims off.

The video ends with the slightly shaken group posing for a photo around the unfortunate shark. The man who landed it seems a little distracted and has to be reminded there is a protocol for such occasions. "You've got to do the old put-a-foot-on-its-head thing," the cameraman reminds him.

Crocodiles in the area appear to have realised it is often easier to let the humans do the work. Last November the Northern Territory News reported that a three-metre "saltie" spied on a group of fishermen before tucking into the shark they had just reeled in.

silvercord (Member Profile)

therealblankman says...

Looking at my own comment on your video, I thought I was a bit harsh. Sorry about that, but it really made me angry watching this video and seeing a bunch of fat, rich, ignorant, over-priveleged jerks proving their "bravery" by killing a beautiful animal like that shark. It's exactly this BS that has driven all the great top predators of the world- lions, tigers, wolves and now sharks to the brink of, and sometimes past, extinction.

I might not have been so angry if I hadn't watched the documentary "Shark Water" a few days ago.

In reply to this comment by silvercord:
From Liveleak:

The video, posted last month by the Cape Don Barramundi fishing lodge in the Northern Territory, records an epic angling saga that pitched man against shark, shark against shark, crocodile against shark and, eventually, man against crocodile.

All appears to be going well when the clip begins, with one of the party land More..ing a fair-sized shark as he fishes off the side of a yacht. Things become more exciting when another shark swims in for an easy lunch, prompting the cameraman to note: "Oh! Another shark's attacking him!"

The valiant angler labours on, and before long the greedy interloper disappears and the thrashing shark is dragged on to the beach with the help of a boathook. But the triumph is short-lived. Within seconds the dark green outline of a saltwater crocodile appears at the water's edge and the reptile dashes on to the beach to make a grab for the shark.

Disaster is averted only by the swift intervention of another member of the fishing party, who leaps towards the thief and delivers a warning blow to its snout with the boathook. Suitably chastised, the croc turns tail and swims off.

The video ends with the slightly shaken group posing for a photo around the unfortunate shark. The man who landed it seems a little distracted and has to be reminded there is a protocol for such occasions. "You've got to do the old put-a-foot-on-its-head thing," the cameraman reminds him.

Crocodiles in the area appear to have realised it is often easier to let the humans do the work. Last November the Northern Territory News reported that a three-metre "saltie" spied on a group of fishermen before tucking into the shark they had just reeled in.

kagenin (Member Profile)

Avokineok says...

Thanks for this very long response! I think this was my favorite line: Take away everything someone has to live for, and he'll find a cause to die for.

I will remember that line, because I think you are absolutely right.



Thanks.

In reply to this comment by kagenin:
>> ^Avokineok:
I live in The Netherlands. Everytime I'm on Videosift, I get a sense of how bad it must be to be an American.
I see some great entertaiment with all the late night shows, but I feel bad for all of you who have to live in a country that has so many people taking everything said at Fox "News" ("Gossip" might be more appropriate) so seriously..
It seriously makes me said and makes me believe Amerika is not the land of opportunities; it's a land where people with a lot of money tell other people what think.


Who do you think were those first pilgrims from Europe were? Puritans - People who wanted nothing more than to lecture others on the poor choices they made. (If you've ever been to a good Renaissance Faire, they're the street actors wearing almost all black, and almost always carrying their bibles with them. Hang around one long enough and you'll want to tell them to go take a long walk off a short pier too, if they're in good character. That's basically how they made everyone else living at the time feel. Look at modern day puritanicals such as Pat Robertson.) The ones who colonized America had enough money to sail half-way around the world, which isn't terribly cheap.

Paying for the sins of our forefathers is something every culture does. Just look at television and video games. Here in the States, you can put some pretty violent imagery on TV and maybe even some drug use in your video games, but holy hell if you show a nipple, or touch on ANYTHING of a sexual nature. Releasing a game in the three major English speaking markets (US, UK, and AU) means subjecting your content to three different review boards, with differing notions about what is good and decent for the consumers of their country. Sex, violence, drug use - the disparity between opinions on what is acceptable for only adults to see, even among countries with common language, can mean what get's a Teen rating by the US's ESRB can get an "Adult Only" in the UK, and even be banned outright unless edited for an Australian market.

Despite all this, I remain hopeful because of the fact that those like ol' Noun-Verb-9/11 Rudy are in the minority. The fact that he's so focused on using terms like "Islamic terrorist," or "islamist" displays a blunt ignorance, and could be interpreted as flat out racism. Let's remember that he put the NYC Emergency Command Center, setup after a failed World Trade Center fertilizer bombing in the 90's, was picked by Rudy to be put in the World Trade Center, a place that had recently been the target of a terrorist attack (by attackers who were brought to justice within the same judicial system that handles our parking tickets - we didn't need the post-9/11 military tribunals then, and we don't really need them now, despite certain anti-American Right-Wingers who lack requisite faith in the system they serve). It's like he refuses to learn from history or something, and unfortunately it's not an uncommon condition among modern conservative talking heads here in the states.

The fact that our president didn't use words like "islamist" or "islamic terrorist" or any permutation thereof is because he understands that the greater threat to our nation is a foreign policy that takes away everything from poor young brown-skinned people living in the cradle of civilization and gives them nowhere to turn to but bombed out countries, crumbling infrastructure, and eager suicide bomber recruiters. Take away everything someone has to live for, and he'll find a cause to die for. Dealing with the symptoms is one thing. End the root cause, and then you have the potential for peace.

Take the issue with rampant piracy around the waters of Somalia. Sure, everyone's talking about the latest tanker to be overtaken, but how many stories have delved into the root cause? The polluted waters that have killed off all the fish in the region? The fish who fed the people on the land? The fish that drove the local economy? All dead. The Indonesian Tsunami caused a tidal wave of wretched filth to wash up ashore, tainting the land and water supplies, causing pestilential illnesses. If you're a poor Somali 20-something with your family boat, and you can't make an honest living with it, what are you going to do? Grab some weapons, recruit a crew of close friends in the same situation you're in, and take your chances on the shipping lanes within striking distance... yeah, that would seem like something someone EXTREMELY desperate would do. It's happening right now. The Somali Government can't do jack, they can barely govern an area the size of my rural hometown. Sure we can bust out the snipers when someone important gets kidnapped, and we can applaud the heroes who put their lives on the life to ensure the safety of others. But that won't stop the next motley crew of fishermen with nowhere else to turn but terrorizing the high seas.

I've only spent about 4 days total in the Netherlands. What I saw was beautiful. Amsterdam was breathtaking, both figuratively and literally - man, those canals can really wreak in the summer . I hope to visit again soon. Didn't get to check out much of the television, but what brief moments I was allowed rest in front of a TV on that trip was pretty cool. A lot of stuff just wouldn't get past the FCC here without some serious fines being levied for sexual content, and that's a damn shame...

But, like I said, I'm still hopeful. Wow, that was long If you made it this far, thanks for reading.

Giuliani Vs. Obama: The SOTU Terrorism Speech That Wasn't?

kagenin says...

>> ^Avokineok:
I live in The Netherlands. Everytime I'm on Videosift, I get a sense of how bad it must be to be an American.
I see some great entertaiment with all the late night shows, but I feel bad for all of you who have to live in a country that has so many people taking everything said at Fox "News" ("Gossip" might be more appropriate) so seriously..
It seriously makes me said and makes me believe Amerika is not the land of opportunities; it's a land where people with a lot of money tell other people what think.


Who do you think were those first pilgrims from Europe were? Puritans - People who wanted nothing more than to lecture others on the poor choices they made. (If you've ever been to a good Renaissance Faire, they're the street actors wearing almost all black, and almost always carrying their bibles with them. Hang around one long enough and you'll want to tell them to go take a long walk off a short pier too, if they're in good character. That's basically how they made everyone else living at the time feel. Look at modern day puritanicals such as Pat Robertson.) The ones who colonized America had enough money to sail half-way around the world, which isn't terribly cheap.

Paying for the sins of our forefathers is something every culture does. Just look at television and video games. Here in the States, you can put some pretty violent imagery on TV and maybe even some drug use in your video games, but holy hell if you show a nipple, or touch on ANYTHING of a sexual nature. Releasing a game in the three major English speaking markets (US, UK, and AU) means subjecting your content to three different review boards, with differing notions about what is good and decent for the consumers of their country. Sex, violence, drug use - the disparity between opinions on what is acceptable for only adults to see, even among countries with common language, can mean what get's a Teen rating by the US's ESRB can get an "Adult Only" in the UK, and even be banned outright unless edited for an Australian market.

Despite all this, I remain hopeful because of the fact that those like ol' Noun-Verb-9/11 Rudy are in the minority. The fact that he's so focused on using terms like "Islamic terrorist," or "islamist" displays a blunt ignorance, and could be interpreted as flat out racism. Let's remember that he put the NYC Emergency Command Center, setup after a failed World Trade Center fertilizer bombing in the 90's, was picked by Rudy to be put in the World Trade Center, a place that had recently been the target of a terrorist attack (by attackers who were brought to justice within the same judicial system that handles our parking tickets - we didn't need the post-9/11 military tribunals then, and we don't really need them now, despite certain anti-American Right-Wingers who lack requisite faith in the system they serve). It's like he refuses to learn from history or something, and unfortunately it's not an uncommon condition among modern conservative talking heads here in the states.

The fact that our president didn't use words like "islamist" or "islamic terrorist" or any permutation thereof is because he understands that the greater threat to our nation is a foreign policy that takes away everything from poor young brown-skinned people living in the cradle of civilization and gives them nowhere to turn to but bombed out countries, crumbling infrastructure, and eager suicide bomber recruiters. Take away everything someone has to live for, and he'll find a cause to die for. Dealing with the symptoms is one thing. End the root cause, and then you have the potential for peace.

Take the issue with rampant piracy around the waters of Somalia. Sure, everyone's talking about the latest tanker to be overtaken, but how many stories have delved into the root cause? The polluted waters that have killed off all the fish in the region? The fish who fed the people on the land? The fish that drove the local economy? All dead. The Indonesian Tsunami caused a tidal wave of wretched filth to wash up ashore, tainting the land and water supplies, causing pestilential illnesses. If you're a poor Somali 20-something with your family boat, and you can't make an honest living with it, what are you going to do? Grab some weapons, recruit a crew of close friends in the same situation you're in, and take your chances on the shipping lanes within striking distance... yeah, that would seem like something someone EXTREMELY desperate would do. It's happening right now. The Somali Government can't do jack, they can barely govern an area the size of my rural hometown. Sure we can bust out the snipers when someone important gets kidnapped, and we can applaud the heroes who put their lives on the life to ensure the safety of others. But that won't stop the next motley crew of fishermen with nowhere else to turn but terrorizing the high seas.

I've only spent about 4 days total in the Netherlands. What I saw was beautiful. Amsterdam was breathtaking, both figuratively and literally - man, those canals can really wreak in the summer . I hope to visit again soon. Didn't get to check out much of the television, but what brief moments I was allowed rest in front of a TV on that trip was pretty cool. A lot of stuff just wouldn't get past the FCC here without some serious fines being levied for sexual content, and that's a damn shame...

But, like I said, I'm still hopeful. Wow, that was long If you made it this far, thanks for reading.

Man Vs. Shark Vs. Shark Vs. Crocodile Vs. Shark Vs. Man Vs.

silvercord says...

From Liveleak:

The video, posted last month by the Cape Don Barramundi fishing lodge in the Northern Territory, records an epic angling saga that pitched man against shark, shark against shark, crocodile against shark and, eventually, man against crocodile.

All appears to be going well when the clip begins, with one of the party land More..ing a fair-sized shark as he fishes off the side of a yacht. Things become more exciting when another shark swims in for an easy lunch, prompting the cameraman to note: "Oh! Another shark's attacking him!"

The valiant angler labours on, and before long the greedy interloper disappears and the thrashing shark is dragged on to the beach with the help of a boathook. But the triumph is short-lived. Within seconds the dark green outline of a saltwater crocodile appears at the water's edge and the reptile dashes on to the beach to make a grab for the shark.

Disaster is averted only by the swift intervention of another member of the fishing party, who leaps towards the thief and delivers a warning blow to its snout with the boathook. Suitably chastised, the croc turns tail and swims off.

The video ends with the slightly shaken group posing for a photo around the unfortunate shark. The man who landed it seems a little distracted and has to be reminded there is a protocol for such occasions. "You've got to do the old put-a-foot-on-its-head thing," the cameraman reminds him.

Crocodiles in the area appear to have realised it is often easier to let the humans do the work. Last November the Northern Territory News reported that a three-metre "saltie" spied on a group of fishermen before tucking into the shark they had just reeled in.

calvados (Member Profile)

rougy says...

Ha ha! Yeah, I guess there was, but we didn't call it that. My uncle either couldn't or didn't tell anybody he was coming home, and just showed up on the doorstep one morning. I think it was that very night when my grandfolks cleared out the garage.

I was just a kid, and I remember the night was pitch black and the only light you could see was the glow from out the garage door, and from there the music, the laughter, the food, the smell of beer.

What a hoot.

In reply to this comment by calvados:
Was there a hootenanny in the garage that night?

In reply to this comment by rougy:
That song reminds me of camp fires.

It reminds me of my grandpa's garage on the Saturday my uncle Chuck got home from Vietnam.

It reminds me of brick-wall alleys on a fall day, kicking leaves as I walked.

Japanese Whaling Ship Shears Bow off High Speed Anti-Whaler

LordOderus says...

If they are whaling in another nations waters, then by all means, that government should step in and raise hell. Are these anti whalers members of the navy? Are they official representatives of the government in question?

I did make a bit of an assumption while stating my opinion, in with that assumption, I did technically commit a logical fallacy. Since this seems to upset KnivesOut, I will attempt to correct the wording of said opinion.

Ahem:

"While I can not see the future, nor accurately predict the reactions of my fellow man, I propose the following: Had these anti whaling activists been of a different skin color,and nationality, and had they been harassing American fishing vessels, I believe the American government would consider them to be committing acts of terrorism and would take action accordingly."

I know I had a bit of a run-on sentence there, but I figure I can always correct my grammar later.

>> ^KnivesOut:
>> ^LordOderus:
I'm glad their ship got rammed. I don't care one way or the other if the Japanese kill whales. It is not my place to tell the Japanese what they can and can not hunt. That is a decision to be made by the Japanese government. The only reason I side with the Japanese in this case, is because what the folks from Whale Wars are doing would be considered terrorism if it were done to us.
Imagine if the crew of that ship wasn't white, and was harassing American crab fishermen or something of that nature. They would all be locked up in one of our lovely maximum security hotels and interrogated for information on their terror cell connections. It is a ridiculous double standard. If groups of Hindus (to whom cows are sacred) started racing around American cattle ranches on 1.5 million dollar ATVs and harassing farm hands, we would have a whole bunch of arrested (and probably dead) Hindu activists on our hands.
The crew of that little ship should consider themselves lucky that the Japanese aren't as trigger happy as we are in the "civilized west".

They're whaling in waters where they're not supposed to be. It's not up to the Japanese government because they're outside their legal jurisdiction. They're poaching animals in international waters, or in US waters.
Does that change your ridiculous logical fallacy at all?

Japanese Whaling Ship Shears Bow off High Speed Anti-Whaler

KnivesOut says...

>> ^LordOderus:
I'm glad their ship got rammed. I don't care one way or the other if the Japanese kill whales. It is not my place to tell the Japanese what they can and can not hunt. That is a decision to be made by the Japanese government. The only reason I side with the Japanese in this case, is because what the folks from Whale Wars are doing would be considered terrorism if it were done to us.
Imagine if the crew of that ship wasn't white, and was harassing American crab fishermen or something of that nature. They would all be locked up in one of our lovely maximum security hotels and interrogated for information on their terror cell connections. It is a ridiculous double standard. If groups of Hindus (to whom cows are sacred) started racing around American cattle ranches on 1.5 million dollar ATVs and harassing farm hands, we would have a whole bunch of arrested (and probably dead) Hindu activists on our hands.
The crew of that little ship should consider themselves lucky that the Japanese aren't as trigger happy as we are in the "civilized west".


They're whaling in waters where they're not supposed to be. It's not up to the Japanese government because they're outside their legal jurisdiction. They're poaching animals in international waters, or in US waters.

Does that change your ridiculous logical fallacy at all?

Japanese Whaling Ship Shears Bow off High Speed Anti-Whaler

LordOderus says...

I'm glad their ship got rammed. I don't care one way or the other if the Japanese kill whales. It is not my place to tell the Japanese what they can and can not hunt. That is a decision to be made by the Japanese government. The only reason I side with the Japanese in this case, is because what the folks from Whale Wars are doing would be considered terrorism if it were done to us.

Imagine if the crew of that ship wasn't white, and was harassing American crab fishermen or something of that nature. They would all be locked up in one of our lovely maximum security hotels and interrogated for information on their terror cell connections. It is a ridiculous double standard. If groups of Hindus (to whom cows are sacred) started racing around American cattle ranches on 1.5 million dollar ATVs and harassing farm hands, we would have a whole bunch of arrested (and probably dead) Hindu activists on our hands.

The crew of that little ship should consider themselves lucky that the Japanese aren't as trigger happy as we are in the "civilized west".

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