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Molten Lead in the Mouth

nibiyabi says...

Can't be real. 9 seconds of exposure and the melting point of lead is 621ºF (327ºC). I don't care what kind of "swishing" or some other method you use to keep it from burning one place -- it's a liquid, and the surface area in contact with your mouth (in comparison to the rather small surface area of unevenly-shaped embers in the firewalking example) is simply too great. 160ºF (71ºC) liquid contact with skin is enough to cause a THIRD DEGREE burn after just ONE SECOND. We are talking almost FOUR TIMES the temperature at NINE TIMES the duration. This is *lies and *magic.

Molten Lead in the Mouth

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NetRunner says...

>> ^ant:
MythBusters did this too.


Yeah, but when they did it they didn't set out to intentionally burn people.

Granted, the Mythbusters got someone burned too, but it was one of their own people, and there was a fair chance that they might not have gotten burned.

In this case, it was essentially the inevitable result of the experiement as proposed.

That's just petty, and cruel.

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ReverendTed says...

Science works (bitches), but this isn't a proper application of scientific theory - there's no control group. Theoretically, someone who isn't a "professional firewalker" should be able to walk approximately that same distance.

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buzz says...

Man, I would have really liked to have heard what the firewalkers thought of their failure. Sure, the "negative energy" in the area might have impacted their ability to succeed, but it's still nice to see them squirm... or come to the realisation that they're full of shit!

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HollywoodBob says...

>> ^lighthouse:
However, a firewalker who invokes a force field probably has a better chance of getting laid then a scientist who invokes the thermal diffusivity equation.

And here I thought new age crap was all about the money. But you say we can get laid if we believe in this shit? Carve out my cortex and count me in.

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12028 says...

Science isn't cruel but it is indifferent. For example, dT/dt = K*dT/dx^2 where T is temperature, K is thermal diffusivity and x is skin thickness. A back-of-the-envelope dimensionalization and a skin diffusivity somewhere between water and nylon gives time = (distance^2)/K. Therefore those sorry fools can walk for t=(2*10^-3 m)^2/(10^-6 m^2 s^-1) or about 4 seconds before they feel it. However, a firewalker who invokes a force field probably has a better chance of getting laid then a scientist who invokes the thermal diffusivity equation.

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gwiz665 says...

>> ^MaxWilder:
Now lets admit that getting yourself to walk on the coals in the first place can be a serious psychological challenge, and one might benefit from digging deep to find the courage and confidence to do it. It's just not magic, that's all.
But you know you could have figured that out just by asking them how careful they are about "preparing" the fire-walk coals. They don't just pour gas on it and strike a match. They have to burn for a certain period of time, then cool for a certain amount of time. That's enough to tell you it's not a paranormal experience right there.


That's right, sarzy.. no wait..

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