Can the two sides just fight to the death already?

That way I can swoop in and establish Otisburg. (In honor of Ned Beatty.)

omg. your peta-head anti-type comments are really making me sick. ..mostly because I have to admit to agreeing with Westy, and his awful spelling, on this.

First, I'm pretty sure no one on the sift enjoys forced violence. Forcing dogs to fight is like forcing little kids to fight to the death and that's fucked up and blah blah blah wah wah wah. Yes, we get that.
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However, if you DID force little kids to fight in a thunder dome like setting ..then all of sudden..

they started climbing the walls, falling down playing tag or eating dirt and boogers like it were recess fun happy play time. Same thing here.
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You guys get that the intent of the video was to film a vicious brutal bloody dog fight..

but reality was something more deserving of a little benny hill music.

Hence the hilarity and sift-worthy nature. =P

>> ^GeeSussFreeK:

Ahhh, the spirit of freedom and liberty is with this one. Are you perhaps familiar with the phrase "I don't share your beliefs but I will fight to the death to defend them"...I would guess not.


Ahhh...as long as their beliefs aren't the murder of the non-beleivers.

I am familiar with that saying, although I do not hold those sentiments. I will not fight to the death unless it affects me directly. I am very intolerant of religion and have no real respect for it.

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>> ^BoneRemake:
fuck'em and the belifs they rode in on.
At around 1:20 I had the need to say " aha ! tables are turned now fucker "


Ahhh, the spirit of freedom and liberty is with this one. Are you perhaps familiar with the phrase "I don't share your beliefs but I will fight to the death to defend them"...I would guess not.

>> ^BoneRemake:
fuck'em and the belifs they rode in on.
At around 1:20 I had the need to say " aha ! tables are turned now fucker "


Ahhh, the spirit of freedom and liberty is with this one. Are you perhaps familiar with the phrase "I don't share your beliefs but I will fight to the death to defend them"...I would guess not.

god.. I'm more curious as to weather this is an attack on Bill'o, or the homo kid who challenged 4chan to a fight to the death.

Should QM and Westy be pitted against each other in a fight to the death steel cage match?


one answer: [_] 1

the other answwer: [______________________________________________________________] 201

If, for whatever reason, a person in their heart wants to vote for the first answer.. you don't think this might have a chance of causing the person to, at the least, not vote?

(though true about the video, the pressure there to answer in line with the others is a bit different)

As far as the kitten is concerned it's a fight to the death!

The problem with mentioning a moral compass is that you can look right to the animal kingdom, including insects, to see behavior like humans. Elephants have a great society together with only specific "sins" and aggressiveness; a sample:

Each elephant troop has its own home range, but territorial fights are rare even though ranges often overlap. While several hundred elephants may roam a similar range, small "kin groups" form between female relatives. The leader of each group is a respected old female with years of accumulated knowledge. This matriarch is the mother and grandmother of other members but sometimes allows her sisters and their offspring to join the group. Once a male reaches maturity, he is forced to leave. The entire group looks to the matriarch for guidance, particularly in the face of danger. Her actions, based on her superior knowledge, will determine whether the group flees or stands its ground. Young members learn from their elders how to find water and food during drought, when to begin travel and where to go, and many other survival skills. This knowledge is passed on from generation to generation.

Once a male elephant reaches sexual maturity at 12 years or older, the matriarch no longer tolerates him in the group. He will then live mostly alone or perhaps join a small, loosely-knit group of other males. Bull elephants seldom form long-term relationships with other males, but often one or two young males accompany an old bull, perhaps to learn from him. Bulls often spar with each other to establish a dominance hierarchy. Elephants have an excellent memory; once a social hierarchy is established, the same two elephants not only recognize each other, even after many years, but know which one is dominant. This way, they avoid fighting again to reestablish dominance. After about 25 years of age, male elephants experience annual periods of heightened sexuality called "musth," which lasts about a week in younger animals and perhaps three or four months as they near their 50s. During this time they aggressively search out females and challenge other bulls, sometimes even causing more dominant males to back down. Different bulls come into musth at different times of the year; however, two well-matched bulls in musth may fight to the death.

Modern humans were almost always raised to be social and learned how to cope with societal problems; sins became sins because that behavior elicited change and no matter how small the sin was it's is still an unknown to that society. Out of fear it becomes a sin or like everything else, evolution demanded it for the betterment of the species. Fear is our main motivation it lays at the core of almost all we do.

If you use evolution, society, and their mutual affiliation and synergistic properties you might find a "moral" compass that we can use without fear. Closest rule I've seen to show this is the golden rule.

/lengthy
//really!
///*edit: Yes, whatever we come up with will be imperfect.

I think world peace...
...could be achieved with a Tag Team Cage Match - fight to the death:

Arnold Schwarzenegger & Jesse Ventura v. Rush Limbaugh & Glenn Beck

Poems called "Bruce's march to bannockburn" if anyone wants to look up the lyrics.

Pity about the song being so soft & Mournful & sappy... this about fighting to the death for freedom.

It's a last stand battle, It's Rallying troops who are out-manned and out-armed and are most likely going to die. but... they, highland clansmen will fight to the death against their Oppressors!

Who would be a traitorous knave? Who's so base as be a slave? Let him turn and flee!

Freedom's sword will strongly draw! Free man stand, or Free man fall

Let us DO.... or DIE!

Yehoshua, you don't disagree so much as you peddle forth the same BS spit out by the Israel media to justify the actions of the IDF. Shit your name is the Jewish pronounciation of Jesus for goddsakes.

And its not like you bring forth any objectivity to the discussion, not to mention that your comments are woefully ignorant or rather malicious in their reading of history and the conflict at large.

Hamas was elected not only because of it being terrorist, shit the Americans voted in Bush should we condemn all Americans to die for their unlawful unilateral military actions? Hamas provided the Palestinian people with a government that provided schools and hospitals when Fatah was too busy with infighting over who controls what after Yasser Araft died who ran the thing as his personal mob business more then any government institution that cared for its people.

Hamas is a reflection and embodiment of the bitterness that Isreal has wrought on the Palestinian people over the last 60 years, it is foolish and stupidity to simply relegate peoples actions to terrorism without thinking about what exactly drives a populace or a single person to resist and fight to the death.

To say that Israel is conducting this 'war' as safely as possible is the dumbest shit I ever heard, you yourself claim that war is hell yet at the same time you really believe that bombing and killing civilians will suddenly enlight them and turn them into docile democratic people. How is Israel showing care by telling Gazans to basically internally flee within the open air prison they set up with blockades, necessitating the tunnels that smuggle goods in. The Gazan blockade has been in effect since June of last year, something that Israel has claimed was to destroy Hamas as well by applying collective punishment of all Gazans, a war crime under Geneva conventions. Violence simply begets violence see the current destabilized Iraq and Afghanistan as a whole.

As a military strategy its disconnected with what Livni claims of peace and ending Hamas, the Lebanese war showed that all of Israel's military power could not destroy Hezboallah and what was the cost of this failure? The utter devastation of most of Lebanon. How did that work out for Israel? A great success? Will this hostile action cease the attacks or simply create even more fundamentalism in a people who see right that the world at large care not for their plight.

Countless cases have shown that COIN works best in fighting terrorism that is allying yourself with the general population to seek a common objective, this was shown to work in several locations in Iraq such as Mosul. However Israel has no common objective with the Palestinian people who they have shoved into smaller and smaller enclaves through slow acquisition of lands by 'settlers'. The west bank looks like fucking swiss cheese now. Israel seeks simply to acquire and hold land. It's military power assures even though civilian deaths will occur through hostile action, in the long term the land will become theirs.

But this is what Israel wants and needs, a perpetual war to keep its population in check and to continue having American support. To claim its fighting the good fight killing mostly civilians so that it can win elections.

But hell what do you care you come simply to shill propagandistic bullshit and by lines of the Israel apologist media who don't even cover Gaza because IDF does not allow reporters in.

I could on and on deconstructing your thinly veiled apologizes for what are essentially war crimes.

Think of the analogy of what is happening in Gaza, The US is being bombed by Russia because Russia is sick and tired of the nuclear threat America presents. Russia is full justified in assuring its national security and hopes that by bombing major population centers of America, the American people will rise up and over throw their tyrannical government that they voted in.

kthxbye.

There is only one thing, you can do.

Fight, until the death. If you get lucky you will come out on top.

When the odds are so stacked against you, you may have no other choice.

http://lemurking.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/determination.jpg

You may fail, but its better than rotting in a prison.

When the president of the country imprisoning you even steps in, and the judge presiding takes such steps to see you burn. What little choice do you have?

Give me liberty of give me death.

Thanks, young Schmawalker!

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It'll have gas, if you'll FIGHT TO THE DEATH FOR IT!

*promote

It'll have gas, if you'll FIGHT TO THE DEATH FOR IT!

*promote