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US spies on allies for business intel, not national security

zor says...

Remember the Manning embassy telegrams? They taught us that embassies do a lot to arrange sales for companies like Boeing, etc. And so the NSA makes sure our pricing is best or matched for any bidding and that we're not getting undercut.

Australian Prime Minister Humiliates Pastor

EvilDeathBee says...

Tomorrow I'm driving up to Ottawa to the Australian Embassy just to do an oversea's vote. Gotta do my part to try and make sure that cunt Tony Abbott doesn't get in. Unfortunately I hear it's not looking good.

glenn greenwald takes morning joe to task

Fairbs says...

The Patriot Act was intentionally put into place in a time of war and uncertainty. It should have been a much bigger deal at that time. I find it funny that the people who are so afraid that our guns are getting taken away had no outrage over this back when it was passed. So willing to give up their freedoms when a R is in office, cause if you don't you're unAmerican or have something to hide.

It's reminds me of the outrage over the embassy attack in Benghazi. That is such a big deal, but the 12 times embassies were attacked when bush was in office are not?

Maher exposes Republicans Secret Rules

heropsycho says...

1. That's not a reason for a scandal. There's a lot of good reasons a rescue operation could have been a bad idea, all of which could be in the best interests of everyone involved.
2. You don't know that's the reason why. In a perfect world, we'd know absolutely everything when we want to know it. Welcome to the real world.
3. US personnel unfortunately die from time to time while serving their country, and sometimes there's nothing scandalous about it. You better show some indignation to rejected beefing up of embassy security by the GOP, too if you're gonna play that card. Something tells me you won't.
4. Already been refuted by the facts. There was nothing significantly changed in the statements.

Look, you're a partisan, I get it. But this is insane. If there was something truly scandalous in the facts we have, I'd be screaming loudly, too. Unfortunately for you, that's not what is suggested in the facts.

lantern53 said:

Benghazi is a scandal because 1. no one approved any kind of rescue mission 2. Obama said Al-Qaeda was on it's heels and blamed it on a video because his election was imminent 3. an ambassador was killed 4. talking points were changed to make him look better


So Obama really was asleep when that 3am call came in, and stayed asleep...this makes the US look weak around the world, which encourages more terrorism

But since y'all love him so much...no big deal, 'death is a part of life'.

Maher exposes Republicans Secret Rules

aaronfr says...

No doubt I'm wasting my breath if @lantern53 is my intended audience, but mostly I try to beat back the nonsense for the edification of others.

@bobknight33

I don't disagree that it warranted an investigation, but that is finished now. In fact, I would be surprised if any attack on an embassy or consulate didn't immediately trigger such an investigation. But it's the over-politicization that drives me nuts when there is so much out there that is truly dangerous and deserving of an indignant investigation.

Maher exposes Republicans Secret Rules

aaronfr says...

Benghazi is a scam because:

1. a rescue team was being assembled, but it was too late
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2222833/Emails-reveal-U-S-military-team-ready-rescue-mission-Benghazi--didnt-make-time.html
2. a local militia does not AL-QAEDA make, he called it an 'act of terror' that day and the he 'covered it up' for a whole three days...
3. the death of a State Department official in a dangerous and unstable country, while unfortunate, is not particularly surprising. Of course, if Republicans had not cut funding for embassy security, maybe it wouldn't have happened.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/10/jason-chaffetz-embassy_n_1954912.html
4. the released emails about the talking points show that the State Department didn't want to take all the blame and that the CIA actually edited out the strongest language
http://swampland.time.com/2013/05/15/read-newly-released-benghazi-emails/

As has been stated before, there are plenty of real scandals and real reasons to distrust/detest this president, but Benghazi ain't one of 'em.

lantern53 said:

Benghazi is a scandal because 1. no one approved any kind of rescue mission 2. Obama said Al-Qaeda was on it's heels and blamed it on a video because his election was imminent 3. an ambassador was killed 4. talking points were changed to make him look better


So Obama really was asleep when that 3am call came in, and stayed asleep...this makes the US look weak around the world, which encourages more terrorism

But since y'all love him so much...no big deal, 'death is a part of life'.

Assange's Christmas address from Ecuador embassy in London

Julian Assange's Speech from Ecuador Embassy 8/19/2012

Julian Assange's Speech from Ecuador Embassy 8/19/2012

Assange's Christmas address from Ecuador embassy in London

interview with Julian Assange from the Ecuadorian Embassy

interview with Julian Assange from the Ecuadorian Embassy

Mitt Lies

KnivesOut says...

You're responding to a sock-puppet like it's a real person.>> ^volumptuous:

How did Biden lie? Oh, also it was Ryan and co. who removed funding for security at US embassies.
btw: Bush and your pals lied us into Iraq and millions have died as a result. Estimated 1.2 million children have been forced into international sex slavery because of your friends.
Maybe you're ill-informed, but here's the hard numbers. Under Republican administrations, many MANY more US embassies have been attacked. Under Obama? Not much.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-B30_qY0A6dA/U
HmIIg1Dy4I/AAAAAAAAHVk/95tHtiT8rpU/s1600/diplomatic-attacks4.png
>> ^TangledThorns:
Obama and Biden keep lying about Libya. Biden lied, people died.


Mitt Lies

volumptuous says...

How did Biden lie? Oh, also it was Ryan and co. who removed funding for security at US embassies.

btw: Bush and your pals lied us into Iraq and millions have died as a result. Estimated 1.2 million children have been forced into international sex slavery because of your friends.

Maybe you're ill-informed, but here's the hard numbers. Under Republican administrations, many MANY more US embassies have been attacked. Under Obama? Not much.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-B30_qY0A6dA/UHmIIg1Dy4I/AAAAAAAAHVk/95tHtiT8rpU/s1600/diplomatic-attacks4.png

>> ^TangledThorns:

Obama and Biden keep lying about Libya. Biden lied, people died.

Julian Assange Hit Piece In New York Times

chingalera says...

>> ^mikeydamonster:

Find it super funny that ppl are ripping on an article because they saw a five minute video featuring totally biased bullet points of said article. When a journalist (see: Cenk) uses a whining baby voice to describe his subject (NYT), well, I tend to take that shit with a grain of salt. How can people talk about "crap" news when the source their citing is know for constantly berating their opponents and literally can't go one minute without calling someone stupid?
In summation, if you didn't read the article and formulated an opinion on it by this sensationalist clip, you are, by definition, ignorant.
If anyone's interested in the "smear piece": http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/1
7/world/americas/ecuador-to-let-assange-stay-in-its-embassy.html?smid=pl-share


Finally someone points out the ass-raping of journalisnm as perpetrated by the TYT cabal and the fawning over he same by their faithful, information starved drones. What is truly sensational is the lack of demand for information and substance from those who control the airwaves.



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