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That's the ticket. They release 100 diplomatic pouches - all of roughly the same size.>> ^thumpa28:

Id like to see him do it in 8 diplomatic pouches over 4 days.

>> ^gwiz665:

Well, he should be properly questioned for whatever he did/did not do. I don't think there's any doubt there. I get the heebeejeebees when they refuse to question him in the Equadorian embassy, and insist he must be extradited. That's sorta where it starts to smell fishy. If they question him and he is found guilty in the end, THEN they should totally extradite him.
His works with wikileaks doesn't absolve him of crimes.
He should, however, in now way be extradited to the US for instance, where he would likely receive a Bradley Manning and be detained until he breaks from it.


If I was Manning I'd be inclined to go down the hunger strike route. How else can he protest his incarceration? And I'm not sure I'd want to cope with the treatment he receives each day.

>> ^seltar:

Hire a flashmob / lookalikes to dress like him and show up outside, let Assange blend in with them, and then disperse in all directions!


That could work. The thing about how that could work as well would be as soon as he's away from the place of focus, he has a much greater chance of getting away. The problem would be of course if the police are tipped off and surround and block off the streets, detaining EVERYONE in the process. So you'd have to do this during maybe a high traffic hour...maybe with a lot of people who aren't afraid of giving the cops are hard time because they might have to charge them or something.

It could work, but there's a significant risk involved of bodily injury, so I don't know. The other thing would be sensory overload which is possibly a dangerous alternative. Set up a call center and start calling emergency services, bombarding them until it draws police away or at least harms communication and confuses them. The problem with that is obviously if there's a real emergency during that time, that person could be in real trouble.

The White Knight doth hereby declare:

@dannym3141, the accused, believes the evil Assange is justified in avoiding (pending) rape charges, therefore dannym3141 is a proven rape supporter, therefore all his opinions about everything are shown to be invalid, therefore he loses this argument, therefore Assange is a bad guy, uncontested, therefore the UK should raid the Ecuadorian embassy forthwith.

(This comment will surely get me laid!)

No, he's been charged with nothing.>> ^dannym3141:

Yes he's been charged with something...

>> ^Boise_Lib:

>> ^dag:
Oh yes! I would love to see some classy, clever spy stuff like this. I bet MI6 has the whole place bugged though.>> ^Deano:
I'm thinking of the end of The Thomas Crown Affair with Pierce Brosnan. Have a load of Assange lookalikes turn up and swarm the area, make several hoax "omg I saw a terrorist" calls and in the confusion Assange walks out disguised as a black guy (I saw that in Silver Streak with Gene Wilder).


That's my thought also.
With bugs everywhere, satellites, and CCTV cameras on every corner (to keep citizens "safe"). There is little chance an old style clock and dagger escape would work.


Some of the ideas aren't bad though...the thing is if they get tons of information you can use it against them until they don't trust the information they're getting. Also if push came to shove they would lock down the airport until they got a handle on the situation. The best thing they could do is distract like they're going to the airport and go to a small airport to charter a small plane to another nation who wouldn't turn him over, or at least to Europe where he could more easily disappear. Or maybe even use a boat to get to Europe. Just simply cover of darkness changing your hair sort of stuff could work and with communication and GPS these days he could be picked up and moved really efficiently.

I really wish I was a part of the group trying to get him out though, that would be soo much fun.

He would probably just disappear.
>> ^Mauru:

Sometimes, I catch myself thinking it would be a good thing if Assange faced a US court. The entire shabam would go up in smoke, a healthy prime-time debate about medial responsibilities, transparency and the judicial process of/with political prisoners in/around the united states would spawn...
...which far outweighs the personal freedom of one person...
-that's ususally the part where I wake up and shake the confetti out of frontal lobe.
BTW: Hey let's go invade an embassy so we can get some dude convicted of not using a condom in another country.

>> ^dag:

Oh yes! I would love to see some classy, clever spy stuff like this. I bet MI6 has the whole place bugged though.>> ^Deano:
I'm thinking of the end of The Thomas Crown Affair with Pierce Brosnan. Have a load of Assange lookalikes turn up and swarm the area, make several hoax "omg I saw a terrorist" calls and in the confusion Assange walks out disguised as a black guy (I saw that in Silver Streak with Gene Wilder).



That's my thought also.
With bugs everywhere, satellites, and CCTV cameras on every corner (to keep citizens "safe"). There is little chance an old style clock and dagger escape would work.

Well, he should be properly questioned for whatever he did/did not do. I don't think there's any doubt there. I get the heebeejeebees when they refuse to question him in the Equadorian embassy, and insist he must be extradited. That's sorta where it starts to smell fishy. If they question him and he is found guilty in the end, THEN they should totally extradite him.

His works with wikileaks doesn't absolve him of crimes.

He should, however, in now way be extradited to the US for instance, where he would likely receive a Bradley Manning and be detained until he breaks from it.

My god, it's as if you can't see the difference between a news article and a commentary. Please don't project your own ignorance on everyone else.

>> ^mikeydamonster:

Find it super funny that ppl are ripping on an article because they saw a five minute video featuring totally biased bullet points of said article. When a journalist (see: Cenk) uses a whining baby voice to describe his subject (NYT), well, I tend to take that shit with a grain of salt. How can people talk about "crap" news when the source their citing is know for constantly berating their opponents and literally can't go one minute without calling someone stupid?
In summation, if you didn't read the article and formulated an opinion on it by this sensationalist clip, you are, by definition, ignorant.
If anyone's interested in the "smear piece": http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/1
7/world/americas/ecuador-to-let-assange-stay-in-its-embassy.html?smid=pl-share

Find it super funny that ppl are ripping on an article because they saw a five minute video featuring totally biased bullet points of said article. When a journalist (see: Cenk) uses a whining baby voice to describe his subject (NYT), well, I tend to take that shit with a grain of salt. How can people talk about "crap" news when the source their citing is know for constantly berating their opponents and literally can't go one minute without calling someone stupid?
In summation, if you didn't read the article and formulated an opinion on it by this sensationalist clip, you are, by definition, ignorant.

If anyone's interested in the "smear piece": http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/17/world/americas/ecuador-to-let-assange-stay-in-its-embassy.html?smid=pl-share

Another problem might be that being disguised as a black person doesn't reduce your chances of arrest...

>> ^dag:

Oh yes! I would love to see some classy, clever spy stuff like this. I bet MI6 has the whole place bugged though.>> ^Deano:
I'm thinking of the end of The Thomas Crown Affair with Pierce Brosnan. Have a load of Assange lookalikes turn up and swarm the area, make several hoax "omg I saw a terrorist" calls and in the confusion Assange walks out disguised as a black guy (I saw that in Silver Streak with Gene Wilder).

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Oh yes! I would love to see some classy, clever spy stuff like this. I bet MI6 has the whole place bugged though.>> ^Deano:

I'm thinking of the end of The Thomas Crown Affair with Pierce Brosnan. Have a load of Assange lookalikes turn up and swarm the area, make several hoax "omg I saw a terrorist" calls and in the confusion Assange walks out disguised as a black guy (I saw that in Silver Streak with Gene Wilder).

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http://videosift.com/video/How-Could-Assange-Escape-the-Ecuadorian-Embassy

Its not up to me to convince you rape is wrong, its not even part of this discussion.

The only reason Britain is involved is the small point that Assange is here? Im sure there are many people like me who wish he was far far away. As to what he thinks, that's irrelevant. You cant seriously argue that perpetrators of crimes should be able to think their way out of responsibility? Anyway, I have no idea what point you are making, so this is just going round in circles.I cant stand the fucker, you seem to admire him, lets leave it at that.

As to the foreign office cocking things up spectacularly, yes they did. Took all the focus off Ecuadors human rights record and slathered it with neo colonialist bull. Thats what happens when Hague gets left in charge, we can only thank god he never got to be PM.

>> ^dannym3141:

Perhaps if you keep repeating this then it will become true and i will be happy for him to get away with rape. You never know. Keep repeating it and see if it works out for you.
Yes he's been charged with something, but he thinks that the government (or several governments) is (are) conspiring against him. So he applied for asylum to another country who granted it.
Now unless ecuador has an extradition treaty with the US, why are we still discussing this? In fact, even if they do - why are we discussing this? I keep telling you that i want britain to keep out, yet you keep accusing me of being a rape supporter. You haven't read a single post i've written so far. Every reply has been either a lie or about something i didn't say.
You're not convincing anyone that either a) i'm a supporter of rapists, or b) that you're not simply a julian assange hater for whatever reason.
However i do agree with your last post - some fucking idiot tory silver spoon rich boy opened his stupid mouth to flex nuts that no one wanted flexing by saying "Actually, we can take him if we want." I bet the diplomatic guys are furious at the shit-storm that created.
>> ^thumpa28:
And you sound like his mother. You want him to get away with his crimes because what? He happened to run a company that released something someone else stole? That make sexual assault ok in your book?>> ^dannym3141:
If he is a rapist, then he should be brought to justice - but how can you trust law/court justice when the law/court is effectively an involved party?