$2.5 million so far on Jan 6. Not $40-60 million, but that would still be worth it. Safeguarding democracy is cheap at that price. Plenty of importance has come to light, but I wouldn’t expect you to know or acknowledge that, you are certainly remaining willfully ignorant of what’s come to light just like mr mushroom tip told you to do, and no one knows what the closed door testimony was yet besides the DOJ.
It cost near $500000000 to safeguard DC in the months after Jan 6…$2.5 million is literally 1/2 of 1% of one cost of Jan 6.

So let’s talk Benghazi, just one report of 13 cost taxpayers $7 million. So far, the Republicans have wasted $22 million on Benghazi, and $100 million total on investigating Clinton with no charges and no revelations of import, and no infractions Trump didn’t repeat.

Right. A concerted effort to perform a violent coup coupled with a second concerted effort to defraud the election using fake electors with forged documentation and a lie about election fraud is, to you, nothing of importance.
Sorry, I find democracy important.
Sorry, I find the constitution to be important.
Sorry, I find treasonous sedition against the union to be important.
I think prosecuting 874 seditious traitors to America and the constitution is important, and i think uncovering who the other appropriately 1100 more are is important.
I think knowing Trump knew his fraudulent voter fraud scheme was illegal before it started is important (since he was declared too stupid to know working with Russia to discredit Clinton was illegal in the past).
I think knowing the voter fraud theory came from something a drunken Giuliani found on Facebook or Twitter with no evidence, before the votes were counted, was important.
I think uncovering the begging for pardons by senators and representatives that planned the coup is important (it’s an admission of guilt and of knowledge of a crime).
I think a Supreme Court judge’s involvement in the coup is important.
That’s barely scratching the surface of important evidence that’s come to light so far.

This….this is why we say you are probably a Russian. You act like defending democracy and the American government are nothing important and nobody cares. No American would think that, but it is true that you SAYING something doesn’t mean you actually think it’s true.

Republicans are perpetrators of near 100% of election fraud….and claim to be the only ones who care about it….what improvements to election systems or increased punishments for those committing vote fraud have they made to curb this anti democracy anti America issue with their party?

*crickets*

A: none, they’ve blocked any legislation proposed to secure elections and made them less secure by installing crazed partisan criminals as clerks who tamper with and steal voting machines making them invalid for use, costing millions and compromising what little election security existed.

Edit: The Republicans ACTUALLY control all three branches in multiple states, but haven’t done a thing to secure the election system (vote ID doesn’t address any of the fraud actually found, eliminating vote by mail might, but for the few (all Republican) fraudulent vote attempts it might stop it disenfranchises exponentially more legal voters…literally millions of legal voters.). No Republican state legislature has put a paper trail in place for electronic voting, nor have they increased the punishment for vote fraud. Why is that Bob?

*crickets*

Democrats have taken steps to curb mass shootings…limiting clip size, ammo purchasing, private gun sales, testing requirements to concealed carry, barring violent felons and violent mentally ill people and (temporarily) people with active restraining orders against them from gun ownership, etc on state levels, the only place Republicans can’t just block any attempted legislation without even reading it first.

Come on @bobknight33. Now 68000 fake signatures found in the Michigan Republican primaries.
I guess wrong isn’t really wrong to you, now is it?
You are completely incapable of admitting election fraud is a feature of the Republican Party, not outliers, not a fluke, it’s the MO. The only way you can win elections. They know it, or they wouldn’t be cheating so much, and getting caught over and over and over and over and over…..

Stop ignoring it. Stop pretending (with zero evidence) that Democrats are just as guilty of election frauds when only Republicans are getting caught perpetrating these frauds against America. Stop the constant lies and grow up.

So again I’ll ask you, somewhere you can’t discard my question and feign ignorance this time….if vote stealing and election fraud is wrong, you support removing the Republicans from the gubernatorial ballot in Michigan for election frauds, right?
They forged thousands of signatures needed to be on the ballot, and by getting caught they handed the governor’s race to Democrats.

Do you have any examples of Democrats cheating (besides Clinton/Sanders) forging signatures, harvesting and filling out ballots, voting twice or more? Thought not. Maybe I never find “my team” doing wrong because they don’t do that kind of wrong….but Republicans get caught constantly.

For @bobknight33
Infinitely more evidence of this conspiracy theory than there is for the election fraud fraud.

What in the EVERLOVING FUCK are you lying about?

Yes, he fucked up hugely, massively cheated an election by harvesting and filling out reportedly thousands of ballots, stolen from the elderly, for himself (his campaign did with his knowledge) and voting for other Republican candidates if the voters hadn’t, then barely won the election anyway.

I’m absolutely certain you supported him, supported him staying in office, and would have supported him again had he chosen to run again, despite the undeniable election fraud campaign he ran and the fraudulent votes he “won” with.

I’m positive you didn’t call for the removal of the others not involved in the scheme but who won only thanks to the fraudulent votes Harris’ vote fraud campaign had cast for them, did you? That’s because you really don’t care one whit about election fraud, you only care about schemes to deny legitimate voters their right to vote if you believe they might vote Democrat.
That’s because you know Republicans have only won the popular vote for president once since 1988, so honest elections don’t work for your ilk.

He remained in office despite the blatant fraud his campaign perpetrated with his full knowledge, for over 600 days, and was still allowed to run in the special election they finally held over 600 days later because of HIS election frauds. He dropped out on his own for “Health reasons”.

He never was charged despite his own son, a judge, testifying that he had knowledge that his campaign was committing election fraud well before they were caught because the son had personally told him, and despite the fact that he did absolutely nothing to stop or report it.

HE WAS NOT PUNISHED IN ANY FUCKING WAY YOU BOLD FACED LIAR!

https://www.wect.com/2020/07/15/wake-county-da-clears-mark-harris-candidate-congressional-race-that-led-election-fraud-investigation/

https://abc11.com/mark-harris-election-fraud-bladen-county-absentee-ballots/6318485/


Why do you tell these stupid lies when you know I will call you out on them, Bob? Self hate? Are you a closet masochist? Why? You KNOW I’m going to look into anything you tell me and call it out when it can be proven to be a lie. I’ve lost count how many times we’ve gone to this rodeo. You end up trampled with shit on your face every time. Why?!

The story is bullshit, a fake red herring to distract from the actual vote fraud, because voter ID and forced in person voting doesn’t help against actual Republican cheaters, but it does disenfranchise millions of valid voters, the ones it specifically intentionally targets. You know this, stop feigning ignorance of something we’ve been over three dozen times.

Yes, anyone part of an election fraud scheme should be banned from any government job, including elected official positions. That invalidates Trump, and many current Republican representatives….anyone involved in any way with the “stop the steal” plot to overthrow democracy or the Jan 6 attack against America (including McConnel who protected Trump from another impeachment)….you do understand that, right? Also candidates like Tina Peters and others that played parts in the fraud.
Also all those that voted twice for Trump like he instructed them to from the White House…two more admitted doing just that from The Villages in Florida last week, they aren’t the first from that place….AFAIK a right wing retirement community complete with nazis in golf carts parading regularly.

It might be, if there was any evidence whatsoever of these claims….but….

“Based on our research, we rate MISSING CONTEXT the claim that people were paid $10 per ballot in Georgia’s November 2020 election because it is misleading and unproven. This assertion from Trump is based on a complaint about ballot harvesting, which has prompted an investigation by the Georgia’s Secretary of State office. True the Vote has not identified the witness who claims he was paid, and the group is not alleging that the ballots themselves were fraudulent. Georgia investigators previously looked into a similar allegation and said there was not enough evidence to justify an investigation. “

Despite no more evidence, Georgia is claiming to investigate this unsubstantiated anonymous claim again as of January ….good luck, doesn’t seem to be going anywhere, another baseless hypothetical claim.

One partisan “trump won” group claimed one alleged anonymous person made the unsubstantiated claim they were paid to “harvest ballots” back in 2021 but the investigation went no where because there was no evidence, no claimant, no proof of payment, not even a suggestion that any ballots were tampered with.

Very unlike the same schemes by N Carolina Republicans in 2016 who did collect open/unsealed ballots and admitted to filling them out for Republicans in any race the voter had not voted in….but you don’t want to hear about more proven voter fraud, you want to talk about unproven hypothetical voter fraud.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-north-carolina/north-carolina-republican-operative-charged-in-election-fraud-scheme-idUSKCN1QG2FS

Republicans do want, actually need election fraud. Fraudulently denying legitimate voters their vote is a kind of voter fraud, and is definitely part of the right wing playbook, Trump once admitted Republicans would never win another election if every citizen over 18 voted. Republicans, not Democrats or Independents, keep getting found guilty of it, over and over and over and over and over and over……and over and over and over. Sometimes massive schemes like the one above….or the president actually saying on television that his voters should vote twice, once by mail and again in person and see if they’re caught.

If you think no one wants election fraud, you need to look again.

Wrong is wrong and should be looked into. No one want election fraud.

Here is a good election cheat.

Tina Peters, Trumpist election clerk, indicted on 10 counts for crimes related to election interference.
Her deputy too.
More election fraud, once again it’s Trumpists committing it.

And…. Mark Meadows, Trump’s chief of staff, committed voter fraud.
He rented a shack in N Carolina and claimed it was his home. He registered to vote from that shack. He never visited the home, and no one stayed the night there while he rented it.

https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/why-did-mark-meadows-register-to-vote-at-an-address-where-he-did-not-reside

He lied about it being his residence, and voted illegally in N Carolina. Voter Fraud…by your guys.
Lock them up for years, and it’s definitely time to require any registered Republican to verify both their residence and identity by random physical checks and DNA testing at their expense. Voter ID is needed for your party, and a fake driver’s license is too easy to get to count.

You want secure elections, don’t you? Then you obviously want special requirements for the group that tried to commit massive election frauds….that’s Republicans.

Or can you admit you’re completely hypocritical and don’t care about all the voter fraud now that you know it was all Republicans perpetrating them?

I expect no answer, because there isn’t a good answer for you.

BTW, strong leader Biden just announced a ban on Russian energy products. Good for Tesla. Yes, it will hurt, gas prices will rise. Freedom isn’t free, and if you don’t chip in your buck 0 five, who will?

found some more election fraud in FL

https://twitter.com/MaryEllenKlas/status/1497271825386164225

LMFAHS!!
Sydney Powell, Trump’s ex lawyer, is defending herself from disbarment for filing numerous frivilous lawsuits….her defense? “Maybe my claims are true”…her evidence? “Many people believe it (after I spent months convincing them, even after I admitted it was just hyperbole not fact), and “many Republican legislatures are creating biased election laws to fight against the frauds I claimed…..so maybe it’s true.”
That’s not a defense, it’s not even a debate point, and it’s so ridiculous it might lead to her defense lawyer being disbarred!
Oh my god, your team really relied on stealing power then ignoring your own criminal acts that put you there, didn’t you? Trump’s promise to pardon the insurectionists if they return him to power is just more proof of that. With the records Trump tried to hide, steal, burn, shred, etc mostly being recovered, things are looking pretty shitty for your “destroy democracy and blame anyone else” “murderous violent sedition is legitimate political discourse” “wasn’t me” team.
What steaming pieces of feculence the right has become, top to bottom.

So anti democratic, so un-American, but that’s all your party is now, anti American obstructionism and election frauds to cling to the power you have left after Trump squandered 100% control of government with nothing to show for it but failures, economic collapse, and mass death.

Debunked above…..
You know what it does have? Prison time for Republicans who go to senior assisted public housing posing as election workers helping seniors (many non English speaking) update their voting registration (not something needed in Florida), sometimes telling them they need a NEW voting card, but in reality they were secretly changing their party affiliation to Republican and were Republican campaign staffers, this just happened in Miami. Only being changed Democrat to Republican, not being changed Republican to Democrat.

That’s why the right hates this bill. It criminalizes election fraud, and would put thousands (or more) of you in prison and end so many Republican campaigns for fraud that the party would disappear. ALL that fraud you moan and cry about was Republicans defrauding the election, subverting democracy, and pissing on the constitution they wrap themselves in and pretend to love.

Imagine your outrage if Democrats went to your 7th grade graduate father and tricked him into registering Democrat….then came back on Election Day to help with his ballot. Apparently you’re fine with that, or you would support election reform. It’s telling that Republicans are against criminalizing election fraud, isn’t it?

Big surprise…the Trump campaign was directly behind the plot to create fake slates of electors committed to Trump from multiple states that Biden won, helped prepare and submit fraudulent certification documents, and they hoped to have them counted by Pence instead of the real electors certified by the states for Biden…Giuliani even wrote Pence a letter telling him to do just that. The campaign, led personally by Giuliani, organized this fraud, this subversion of democracy.
More direct Trump election fraud. You really think he’s interested in election security when he’s the one caught red handed committing election fraud on every front? Lol.

Edit: Trump’s communications on and about Jan 6 are now released, soon to be public record. No more delays possible, he took it all the way to the Supreme Court and failed all the way at trying to hide what he did. Better start stretching, you’re going to have some Olympic level mental gymnastics to do soon.