Forgive a new guy for his 2 centavos, but don't forget (or try to wrap your idyllic heads around) that the US has been run (into the ground) by design, by a good-ol-boy network of picked and privileged players for at least the last 100 years. So has Europe's, so have all the whitest countries' empires.

The mess the US is in has very little to do with the votes for one or the other can'tidate at this point, both parties being heads from the same oligarchic hydra. The Ultra-wealthy and their sympathetic familiars, the corporations, own you and your children, all governments and clergy, cradle to grave-

The deficit will continue to grow, wars will continue uninterrupted, as power and control become increasingly centralized, until the masses unite against the tyranny of disinformation (national media), slave-like toil, and the absurdity of the instillation of fear in order to achieve complete control through surveillance and bullshit, make-everyone-feel-cozy-and-safe laws, obligations, requirements, etc.

¡Todos despierta y huele el café!!

Sorry to read that you were shot at there señor-This is a very frightening experience even when the bullets hit nearby-Treat the experience like a lightening strike, a freak occurrence-

-Unless you did something to provoke the mystery man on the motorbike, this should not happen to you again until the gobierno collapses and anarchy or worse begins. Maybe get out of L.A.
-Kansas is cool. The doves there are as fat as chickens!

Lyrics:
There comes a time
When we need to make a show
For the world, the Web and CNN

There's no people dying,
so the best that we can do
Is create the greatest bluff of all

We must go on pretending day by day
That in Gaza, there's crisis, hunger and plague
Coz the billion bucks in aid won't buy their basic needs
Like some cheese and missiles for the kids

We'll make the world
Abandon reason
We'll make them all believe that the Hamas
Is Momma Theresa
We are peaceful travelers
With guns and our own knives
The truth will never find its way to your TV

Ooooh, we'll stab them at heart
They are soldiers, no one cares
We are small, and we took some pictures with doves
As Allah showed us, for facts there's no demand
So we will always gain the upper hand

We'll make the world
Abandon reason
We'll make them all believe that the Hamas
Is Momma Theresa
We are peaceful travelers
we're waving our own knives
The truth will never find its way to your TV

If Islam and terror brighten up your mood
But you worry that it may not look so good
Well well well well don't you realize
You just gotta call yourself
An activist for peace and human aid

We'll make the world
Abandon reason
We'll make them all believe that the Hamas
Is Momma Theresa
We are peaceful travelers
We're waving our own knives
The truth will never find its way to your TV

We con the world
We con the people
We'll make them all believe the IDF is Jack the Ripper
We are peaceful travelers
We're waving our own knives
The truth will never find its way to your TV
We con the world
We con the people
We'll make them all believe the IDF is Jack the Ripper
We are peaceful travelers
We're waving our own knives
the truth will never find its way to your TV
The truth will never find its way to your TV

I haven't met one of your -1 comments that I haven't upvoted.

In reply to this comment by joedirt:
you guys are evil sickos. You think any of those women used Dove products?

Why allow them to spread their ads claiming they can influence anyone's skin or heatlth.

Hello??!! PRO*AGE didn't EXIST until now, so how the fuck did these women use it and get so perfect skin?

Let me guess they used it once and then it worked so well they put it on TV?! Bravo mindless drones, let's spread more crappy advertising FOR sham and hustlers. Make everyone have to look at shitty ads!

Unfortunately, we are not going to resolve the "what is porn?" issue. This article at findlaw ought to be enough to convince even the most perseverant among us that to come to a conclusion about what is or isn't porn is an exercise in extreme futility. While it might be wonderful to think that everyone in the world ought to adopt a laissez les bon temps rouler attitude, that is simply not going to happen.

The argument of advertisers aside, there are other governing factors in this discussion. First, as Dag mentioned, exploitation. It doesn't take very much googling to find out that the drug abuse and suicide rates among porn workers are staggering. There are people literally selling their souls to be involved in this industry. By buying the product and/or propagating it through our various media, we turn a blind eye to the destruction of real people. If the objectification of women in our society is a problem (and many here on the Sift appear to think it is), then porn amplifies that problem to manifold degrees. And Dag has it right, we don't know who is being exploited and who isn't. Why even give the illusion that we support that kind of degradation?

Second,is the impact of porn upon some of the members of this site. Statistically speaking the probability is certain that there are some of our members who struggle with addiction to pornography to one degree or another. Like alcoholism, there are certain people who cannot have just one. It ought to be patently obvious that this is an area in which we have an opportunity to take care of one another rather than to invite each other into further ruin. You don't have to go much farther than the end of your block to find a family that has been negatively impacted or even torn apart by porn.

Allow me to put it this way: If a friend comes to my house and I know he's an alcoholic, I don't serve him booze and I don't break it out in front of him. Why would I hurt someone like that? While I realize that it is ultimately his responsibility whether he drinks or not, I also realize that there are those who have lost the choice to drink and to set a drink in front of them might very well be their demise. So, I give up my rights to alcohol to help the person who needs it. Same with porn. While I might have a right to post it, I also have a right to not post it. What helps more people out?

For those two reasons, among others, I have enjoyed being a part of Videosift and, with a clear conscious, recommending this site to others.

Ore d'amore non ho
per non innamorarmi più.
Io non ho
che momenti.

Parlo soltanto
se devo
e non chiedo a nessuna mai
di restare con me.

È solo te che vorrei,
soltanto te.
Il tuo posto era quì
vicino a me.

Guardare non so
dove non sei.
Gli occhi miei sopra ai tuoi
e poi, e poi...

Ore d'amore non ho
per non innamorarmi più.
Dopo te
non ho amato mai.

È solo te che vorrei,
soltanto te.
Il tuo posto era quì
vicino a me.

Guardare non so
dove non sei.
Gli occhi miei sopra ai tuoi
e poi, e poi...

Ore non ho
per non innamorarmi più.
Dopo te
non ho amato mai.

Ore non ho
per non innamorarmi più! HOURS OF LOVE image
Bongusto/Migliacci/Sigman/Rehbein/Kaempfert

I dont' have hours of love
to not fall in love again.
I have...
only moments

I speak only
if I have to
and I don't ask anyone
to stay with me

Is only you that I want
only you
Your place was here
close to me

I'm not able to look
where you are not
My eyes on yours
and then...and then...

I dont' have hours of love
to not fall in love again
after you
I never loved again

is only you that I want
only you
your place was here
close to me

I'm not able to look
where you are not
My eyes on yours
and then...and then...

I dont' have hours
to not fall in love again
after you
I never loved again

I dont' have hours
to not fall in love again

Quite a few older clips in there but still good. Loved the dove fail just after the minute mark.

Asshole. See you tomorrow.... but you wont see me... (insert an evil laugh)

In reply to this comment by Drax:
In reply to this comment by inflatablevagina:
oh Drax dear... where have you gone? Are you gone or am I gone?
Which is it dove?

I'm still here Honey-Buns ♥ I'm commenting a bit less.. diarrhea of the keyboard was never my thing.. and I've caught myself throwing out too many dumb-funny jokes.. my aim was always to post truly funny-dumb jokes. I'm always down for a good profile reply though. Hell, I may need a cig after this one.

Your Lord can't help you where you're going, dove

>> ^peggedbea:
i taught my kids how to make smores in the microwave yesterday, lord help us all.

Fuck Dove shampoo, but huge kudos to Bob Kramer. It's always a joy to watch a master at work.

In reply to this comment by inflatablevagina:
oh Drax dear... where have you gone? Are you gone or am I gone?
Which is it dove?

I'm still here Honey-Buns ♥ I'm commenting a bit less.. diarrhea of the keyboard was never my thing.. and I've caught myself throwing out too many dumb-funny jokes.. my aim was always to post truly funny-dumb jokes. I'm always down for a good profile reply though. Hell, I may need a cig after this one.

oh Drax dear... where have you gone? Are you gone or am I gone?
Which is it dove?

"inner ear disabling dove shitting medical disorder"

Then some uppity black man talks about stuff like dignity, peace, empathy, pride, geneva conventions, and not killing people

His policies are what people object to, not skin melanin. There are more ways to approach 'peace' than the neolib world view accepts. Carter is a neolib, has a NPP, and his weak policies all but created modern world terrorism via Iran. Reagan was a hawk who ended the cold war through Brinkmanship & arms buildups. A Dove that created violence, and a Hawk that established peace... Clearly this whole 'peace' thing is a bit more complicated myopically pursuing neolib policies of unilateral disarmament. Peace is a cycle of pressure, buildup, and release - and the "Nevile Chamberlain" school of appeasement merely prolongs the 'buildup' stage and makes the 'release' more problematic.

If you don't like being mixed in with all those various conservative groups, you shouldn't allow them to act like they speak for the entire block of conservatives as they yell and shout.

"Shouldn't allow?" I'm afraid that my belief in Freedom of Speech makes that kind of approach unfeasible. The real issue here is one where people like myself who are fiscal conservatives are the antithesis of BOTH major US political parties. What we true conservatives want would END the free lunch. NEITHER party wants that to happen. The vast bulk of American voters are fiscal conservatives who want smaller government, balanced budgets, less spending, & lower taxes. Sadly, all we end up with are left wing liberal extremist tax & spenders like Bush & Obama.

But the fact remains, there were no tea party gatherings under Bush.

The objections were there. Even you acknowledge it. The national attention was more consumed with Iraq war protesting. I'm an unaffiliated voter, and I didn't vote Republican so my objections had little weight I deem. Most voters are sheep who join a "big party" and they are too consumed with cheering on their 'team' than caring whether their team is a bunch of self-serving jackasses. It is very similar to the tunnel vision fanboi-ism rampant in modern US sports. "Kobe Bryant is a rapist? M'eh - who cares as long as he wins games..." Sigh.

Because whatever you can say about Barack Obama, he hasn't done ANY damage to the Constitution that wasn't done by dozens of men before him. And to hear people throwing the Constitution around now just rings hollow.

If people who were howling about the Constitution under Bush were also howling about it now, then there would at least be consistency. To hear neolibs howl about the constitution under Bush but fall silent now - as you say - "rings hollow".

Also, one last point, if you think Liberals get their arguments from any one place, that sadly proves you have little information about liberals as a group

Neolib talking points come from a variety of musicians, but the song is always the exact same song. Similarly, right wing talking points come from from way more sources than just Limbaugh & Beck but the message is almost identical.

Say what you will about Republicans, they are ALWAYS... ALWAYS on point, and they take no goddamn prisoners.

I'd say your opinion of the Republican party's unity is somewhat exaggerated. There are innumerable factions in the GOP. The Democrat as I see it is far more efficient about corralling in thier 'mavericks'. This whole health care debate has only gotten this far because of the extremist fringe Democrats stomping on the necks of the moderates.

Thanks!

In reply to this comment by JAPR:
*promote

Now, that is funny.

In reply to this comment by dingens:
It's not dead, it's pining for the fjords!