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Vote While It Counts

spawnflagger says...

my favorite was the Arizona "recount" where Cyber Ninjas tallied 99 additional votes for Biden and 261 fewer votes for Trump than previously counted...

some other "findings" in their report also debunked:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/09/28/fact-check-arizona-audit-affirms-biden-win-doesnt-prove-voter-fraud/5846640001/

Why is it so hard to believe that people who were going to vote for Trump would listen to what he was preaching for weeks and months beforehand, and go vote in-person on the day; whereas people who were going to vote for Biden believed COVID-19 was actually real and more likely to use mail-in voting because it's safer and more convenient?
Here's a good explanation of the whole "quadrillion" BS by a British mathematician: https://youtu.be/ua5aOFi-DKs

surfingyt (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Truth is irrelevant, but getting caught making up and spreading stupid, easily debunked lies can embarrass even boob…..sometimes. It does help prove they have no actual point to make so are forced to lie to support their dishonest positions….every now and then that sinks in for a moment.

“Truth is an idea in the mind of a crazy person, but you don’t need to know the “truth” in order to not lie.”- My Dad

100%…right?!
He doesn’t think like an engineer, he doesn’t talk like one, he can’t do even basic math like every engineer ever can, and he doesn’t have the basic language skills every single college graduate (or even a non-alternative high school graduate) has.
Pretty hard to believe a constant unrepentant uneducated liar is telling the truth this time….unless his degree came from Trump U.

surfingyt said:

truth is irrelevant to the loser. bewb would believe whatever fantasy he wants his little world to be. he has 0 critical thinking skills. engineer my arse lol

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Aren’t you going to tell us all about 7 year old victim Lachlan Leary, son of Steve Leary, who died from his Covid vaccination?
Or are you afraid of getting caught spreading another ridiculous right wing lie?

Steve Leary, claiming to be an Australian father of a (now dead) 7 year old son who died directly from his vaccination, is becoming a right wing folk hero for posting his story…..problem is there’s no record of this child, there’s no record of his death or any child death from vaccination, and Steve Leary turns out to be a mayor in Winter Park Florida, not an Australian father….but the story lives on and I’m certain you would believe it were it not pre-debunked.

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Aaaaahahahaha! Stop projecting, Bob.

ROTFLMFAHS!!! 139 IQ Bob. Excelling in college level classes at 6th grade. Over 10 years of higher education….including critical thinking. I know you wouldn’t post your actual IQ score because it’s double digits, and the first digit is not 9.

You know full well you’re the uneducated ignoramus living in a fantasy world here, still spreading the big lie with no evidence, just like 99% of what you’ve said in the last 13 years (yes, you lost your mind over Obama and have only gotten worse under The Biggest Loser, the convicted con man and consummate liar.)

MY head is up MY ass!?! LMFAHS!!! You have the long term verified clinical diagnosis of cranial rectosis….I know it colors your viewpoint, but that shit you see is in your eyes, not on me. Too funny, Ms Iknowyouarebutwhatami.

Bob, you know how often the partisan nonsense you spout is wrong, verifiably and definitely wrong, based on blatant lies? More than 9/10. You still think Trump won, or at least that there was massive democratic fraud last election, despite no evidence, despite a dozen times you were told the evidence would be released tomorrow, but when tomorrow came there was nothing, despite multiple audits, including the hyper partisan unofficial biased vote review that found hundreds of votes for Biden but zero evidence of vote fraud, despite 62 failed attempts to prove any fraud in court, despite dozens upon dozens of accusations that all turned out to be misrepresentation, misunderstandings, and outright lies, but not evidence, despite Mike Pillow, crazy moronic crackhead that can’t produce a cogent thought much less evidence of fraud being the failed clearly insane spokesman for the movement. (He now claims he has proof every American over 7 committed vote fraud that can put us all in prison for life)

You like to spout insanity, see it debunked with facts figures and citations, and slink away so you don’t have to try to defend the indefensible or admit you were w-w-w-wrong. When I make a claim, you rebut it with a “nuh-uh…your dum!” and think you won an argument when you haven’t offered one….and I still bother to verify them with facts, figures, and often multiple citations to prove my point anyway.

Tesla stock was a good deal 3 years ago, not today. It’s a bubble, one day it will pop. Better get out before then. My increases came largely from a ton of S&P, various energy stocks and medical stocks, and some tech. I sold my J&J before their vaccine flopped, knowing they have billions in lawsuits to lose soon. My one account went up >30% this year. I made more than if it was all in Tesla (> 30% vs Tesla at 24% for the year)….and I don’t have a PE ratio of 360 indicating a major correction in the future, and I get dividends. If China comes up with a better battery, you better sell immediately. They’ve done well, but are unstable, randomly fluctuating, not secure, and run by a nut that doesn’t care about hurting his own stock prices (or manipulates them for his own gain, I can’t be sure).

Please name these failures, I don’t think you can. You’ve listed the economy, insanely better under Biden, unemployment, insanely better under Biden, immigration, still using the Trump era rules and methods (so there’s one), Inflation, Trump devalued the dollar by 30% and only paused inflation for a year by halting the economy, actually making it a negative growth. Covid, lol. The people responsible for the lack of Covid response are your people, the people who are still unvaccinated and still having problems are idiot Republicans. Covid was, and is a right wing caused issue, fortunately it now effects mostly right wing morons, they should be banned from hospitals, they chose to be vulnerable.

He has failed to remove disastrous Trump appointees, projects, policies, and programs. He’s failed to pass more thorough infrastructure (build back better) but has gotten infrastructure funding. He’s going to fail to secure voting rights thanks to 100% Republican obstructionism, true, unless there’s a miracle in November.

CNN leader in fake news? WHAT?! I suppose maybe, because OAN, Newsmax, and Fox along with all the other right wing media aren’t news at all, they’re dishonest propaganda channels that lie to you daily….and you just fucking love it, you love the lies, and because you love them you believe them, and for no other reason because there’s never evidence for your lies….that’s why you disappear so often, caught in too many lies and called out on them, proven wrong, and you don’t have the spine to admit it. Coward. Use the same criteria and CNN beats every right wing outlet for honesty, correctness, willingness to correct mistakes, and their lack of involvement in a violent attack against the country and democracy, you fool.

bobknight33 said:

You such a tool.

Stupid as shit . Guess thats because you head is up your ass.

Reality and you are never in the same room.

Have you bought any Tesla stock?
Biden is a absolute disaster. Even CNN leader in fake news cant lover for his failures anymore. WOW

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Still no answer?
Again, is $2000 enough for fraudulently voting at least twice? (Honestly I think probably more like 20-40 times, since each ballot he fraudulently used had +-20 elections, that makes a vote worth $50).

If so, don’t go bitching if Soros puts a few hundred million into winning every election for the left, votes cost $50+-….$1000 per ballot, with no other penalties. That’s the democracy you want? It’s the one you guys have created.

And again, stop the terrorism against innocent civil servants….stop believing long ago debunked right wing lies….stop being the blatant troll you are. It’s not a good look.

bobknight33 said:

Good catch and he should be punished.

Lets also go after that Atlanta mother and daughter who pulled out a few suitcases of fake votes and ran them through the machines all night long giving the Biden spike... You down for that?

Gun Laws: Jon Stewart Interview w/ Former ATF David Chipman

newtboy says...

15% of all violent crime is domestic violence. It stands to reason then that 15% of killings are direct domestic violence, if not far more.
Nearly 50% of women killed in the us are killed by their intimate partner.
Guns are involved in over 50% of intimate partner homocides.
That’s guns in domestic violence cases accounting for 25% of femicides (women killed).
It’s impossible to give an accurate number for violence tangential from domestic violence (ie shot by police, collateral injuries, suicides, etc) but it’s far from zero.

https://ncadv.org/STATISTICS

https://efsgv.org/learn/type-of-gun-violence/domestic-violence-and-firearms/

The National Gang Center under the Department of Justice based on annual surveys of local law enforcement agencies tallied 11,934 "gang-related" homicides in the U.S. from 2007 through 2012. The FBI reported 93,253 total murders during the span. Comparing the numbers, the Center estimated that "gang-related homicides typically accounted for around 13% of all homicides annually."

Researcher John Lott stated that the U.S. has a high homicide rate compared to other developed countries because of “drug gangs.”
According to the National Youth Gang Survey Analysis by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), National Gang Center, and Office of Juvenile Justice and Delinquency Prevention, most gun homicides are not related to gangs.
A December 2020 Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report by the CDC of 34 states, four California counties, and Washington, D.C., found that 9.7% of homicides in 2017 were gang-related

So, 25%+- of all women killed (and a similar number for men one assumes) vs 9-13% for gang violence (including tangential)…but you want to focus on “inner city gang killing” (read “black thugs”) as if it’s 90% of homocides and domestic violence death is non existent.

Again, you devolve into making up fake racist statistics to turn any issue into a racist argument. This is where you fail every single time. Fail to say what you really mean. Fail to be honest. Fail to offer true statistics. Fail as a human being….you completely racist liar.

Downvote your comment because as usual you ignore the topic, likely didn’t watch the video, and make up statistics to be a blatantly lying, unapologetic worthless piece of racist excrement.

How can you possibly be so stupid you thought no one would call you out on these easily debunked blatantly racist lies, Bob?

bobknight33 said:

OF all the killings per year how many are domestic violence?

1%
2%

OF those domestic violence what % are from guns, Knifes , other?
Evil White conservative owners are the problem? No bias here.

What about the 90+% gun violence ? inner city gang killing?
This is where you start.

Down vote since it not about any meaningful discussion of root causes.

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Good start, but Is a $2000 fine punishment enough for voting fraudulently at least twice, and blaming political enemies for his crimes? You conveniently ignored the question.
IMO, he should see serious prison time and the fine should be at least 10 times what it is….any fraudulent voter should.

He’s the poster boy for your election fraud fraud. No “mea culpa”? No “I guess maybe we should rethink our claims”? Nope, just some whataboutism over long ago debunked and totally made up nonsense you clearly still believe, gullible rube that you are.

If such a thing had happened, absolutely the state should go after them, not the Trump mob that tried to lynch them and continues to threaten their lives daily, but since this is another moronic, long ago debunked right wing hallucination and fabrication, investigated by the state and found to be ignorant supposition by the right not subversion by the left, that’s a flat no.
🤦‍♂️

“What you saw – the secret suitcase with magic ballots – were actually ballots that had been packed into those absentee ballot carriers by the workers in the plain view of the monitors and the press,” -Georgia Election System Implementation Manager Gabriel Sterling

Democrats get accused of the crimes Republicans keep getting convicted of….because you morons really hate yourselves, but you aren’t adult enough to admit that so you project. Remember all those attempted cop killings and bombings last summer that outraged you until it became clear they were largely right wing white supremacists shooting police, lighting fires, and setting bombs….then suddenly those crimes weren’t an issue? You’re so transparent.

bobknight33 said:

Good catch and he should be punished.

Lets also go after that Atlanta mother and daughter who pulled out a few suitcases of fake votes and ran them through the machines all night long giving the Biden spike... You down for that?

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Not exactly, but the source isn’t really the question, is it.
Point to something not true. I can do that every single time you post some cut and paste propaganda. At least I give you the courtesy of watching/reading my sources and giving you a synopsis.
But you can’t point to a factual error. That’s why you just summarily dismiss it. It saves you from failing at debunking it.

Maybe look it up. Just because it’s not covered on OAN doesn’t mean it isn’t verifiable fact, in fact it makes that more likely.

bobknight33 said:

You get you news from the sewer. Guess you love shit news.

Why do you even waste you time rotting you brain.

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Be sure to do action replay and magnify that fortion.....
https://youtu.be/zE5OEPSfqMA
Like the nameless internet talking head says, please defend him then tell us all about how Biden can't speak well.

Not to mention that the conspiracy theory he's spouting was thoroughly debunked the day after the idiotic accusation was made in November 2020, they action replayed the magnified fortion using the fashioned tape and D'oh, nothing.
He should have deengineered his speech (another ignorant Trumpism from the same speech).

Have a covfefe day.

PS, Trump testifies under oath today, so expect perjury charges tomorrow. You know he cannot ever tell the truth, so it's guaranteed he's going to lie under oath today.

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

It could be a crime….if that had happened. It didn’t.

No legitimate evidence of fraud has ever been presented except a few cases of Republicans voting twice or more. (Lots of debunked illegitimate claims, lots of wasted money and man hours investigating and debunking them, but nothing more)
With no evidence of fraud and mountains of evidence of legitimacy, the secretary deliberately and knowingly certified a legitimate result.
Since the election wasn’t fraudulent or “false”, not certifying the legitimate results would be a crime. That is the crime Trump is soliciting….again. Asking an election official to “find him” thousands of votes, especially as president but even as a private citizen, is a crime….a felony if reports are correct.

Trump does not have that right, nor does he have the right to pressure a Secretary of State to “find” him thousands of votes to rig the election….not as president, not as a private citizen. That is a crime….one he just committed again, this time in writing. You just have no clue what you’re talking about, as usual. Election interference like this IS a crime, one he’s currently under investigation for. Derp. (Repeating myself in hopes it will sink in)

Also, there’s no such thing as decertification…once it’s certified, it’s done, no matter what Hannity and Trump tell you….hint, they aren’t constitutional scholars, they’ve likely never read it. Remember, Trump was elected because he didn’t know how the government works (so ostensibly would “fix” it).

More Mega? Bwaaahahahaha! Please don’t throw me in that briar patch, Br’er Bear. After the last time, you really want to try Mega again!?! Please, put Trump up as the Republican candidate….he won’t get 30% of the vote and will drive billions of dollars into Democrat coffers, and you’ll lose many senate and house seats to boot (and likely have more representatives #walkaway from the Republican Party). Oh no!!!!

bobknight33 said:

Fraud in the election and deliberate knowingly certify this false election could be a crime.

Trump has the right to to ask for decertification due to current facts at hand. That is not a crime. If it can be done I do not think so.


MEGA 2024

Anom212325 (Member Profile)

surfingyt says...

2 things... #1 if this were true this would make him AWOL and he'd end up in a brig (aka military prison) then eventually dishonorably discharged. #2 its not true. already been thoroughly debunked.

Take another L trumptards hahahaha
yall some of the stupidest gullible morons out there

newtboy said:

I do not bother with random links provided by those already proven to be untrustworthy.

Have a nice day

A brush with fentanyl almost killed this deputy trainee

newtboy says...

So many problems with this propaganda piece, now admittedly produced by the Sheriffs to show how dangerous their jobs are....just like almost everything police say, self serving lies.

I'm gonna add *lies and *debunked since all medical professionals agree this is not what a fentanyl overdose looks like in numerous ways and is almost certainly staged by terrible actors.

A brush with fentanyl almost killed this deputy trainee

Emails Reveal Trump Planned Coup with Loyalist Jeffrey Clark

newtboy says...

No answer Bob? Typical. It’s ok….we knew you didn’t have any.

You can’t say what’s a half truth or what’s spin, you just know it is because if this were true (hint, it is) it means you blindly follow someone who clearly tried to subvert democracy to turn America into a despotic monarchy and was stupid enough to use emails and texts to coordinate his coup, leaving a massive pile of evidence of his crimes. After all, he thought his violent mob would be successful at ending democracy in America and he would just erase all traces of his crimes along with anyone investigating him once he was king for life.


Oh no! Mr My Crackpipe’s cyber symposium with the best cyber guys around, after getting hacked and starting way late, has fallen apart with absolutely no evidence of mush brain’s claims, just his little factless movie, but did include Lindel running off stage crying when he learned that the $1.5 billion lawsuit against him and the other election fraud fraudsters will proceed (an order that came with a scathing rebuke from the judge).
Edit: Er Mer Gerd!…and he revoked his $5 million prize for anyone who could prove him wrong before it started, likely because his cyber security expert Josh Merritt had already said his “evidence “ was utter nonsense and proved nothing in interviews, and others he hired said he didn’t even have these “data packets” he claimed to have, only his video representation of what such packets MIGHT look like as raw data…which would be impossible to decrypt and wouldn’t have the evidence Lindel claimed if you could, even if a Chinese hack had occurred. ROTFLMFAHS!!!

More good news, cyberninjas has reportedly stolen the ballots and data they were reviewing (it was never an audit) and (illegally?) taken them out of state to Montana almost two weeks after missing their deadline to report to the AZ congress on July 28. Good thing they didn’t get their hands on all that other personal information they requested because what they have is not secured and ripe for identity theft already, and they wanted basically all the personal data the county had on every resident, including addresses, employment, family members (mother’s maiden name), social security numbers, medical records, bank accounts, assets, criminal history, …..everything the state had.

Even you can’t spin the refusal to provide their conclusions (now what, almost 5 months into their 3 week review) and fleeing the state with state property as some indication they found something, and you were so gullible that you bought their blatant lie about “suddenly appearing unregistered mail in votes that had no record of being sent out” that turned out to be early in person voting numbers, but they were too incompetent or dishonest to say so and instead pretended they found fraud….and continue to pretend they found fraud after being debunked, and are using that obvious bold faced lie in their efforts of trying to go door to door in large groups of Trumptards to force people to tell them who they voted for in a clear, blatant case of text book illegal voter intimidation.

D’oh!

bobknight33 said:

Just more lame leftest BS 1/2 truths and spin.

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Holy shit.
Did you know that three weeks ago cyber ninjas actually admitted they had installed malware into Maricopa voting machines?
I knew the machines had been invalidated after cyber ninjas had them because of fears that in their incompetence this could have happened, now it seems cyber ninjas knew it had happened (it looks intentional) but didn't admit it until three weeks ago.
These guys are the right's best digital security people?

And what did we get for this $3 million mistake? A review that any competent middle schooler could have done better, would have made fewer mistakes, and wouldn't have destroyed an entire county’s voting equipment, and wouldn't have been a dishonest tool for Trump making outrageous and completely false claims that can be debunked within an hour.
Their Twitter accounts are suspended for lying.

Now consider, cyber ninjas was demanding access to dmv computers, police, sheriff, county, and state computer systems and routers, even health care records...and would have infected every state owned system had they been given access. They want to repeat this in every county Trump lost....destroying the voting ability of any county that went to Biden. Just to replace the routers in one county would cost $6 million....and because there's a severe computer chip shortage, it would take up to multiple years to buy and install them, during which time they couldn't vote.

I think it's time to audit all counties that voted for Trump, because any county that would elect him has something seriously wrong, and because all the actual fraud found has been by his voters. If some malware disenfranchises all those voters in the next election, it will only be in an effort to secure the vote, so no foul, just like the targeted anti voting rights laws you guys are enacting to disenfranchise tens of millions of voters.

Keep in mind, Democrats have sponsored uncountable bills to safeguard the election systems nationwide, republicans wouldn’t even consider a single one. They aren’t interested in a fair vote, a safe vote, or a secure vote…only a Republican vote by any means. They’ve said so publicly uncountable times….if every eligible American has the opportunity to vote, “ you’d never have a Republican elected in this country again,”-DJ Trump



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