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Strike! Or not...

nock says...

Good question. Here are the rules:
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6a. Legal Pinfall
Pins to be credited to a player following a legal delivery shall include:

Pins knocked down or off the lane surface by the ball or another pin.
Pins knocked down or off the lane surface by a pin rebounding from a side partition or rear cushion.
Pins knocked down or off the lane surface by a pin rebounding from the sweep bar when it is at rest on the pin deck before sweeping dead wood from the pin deck.
Pins that lean and touch the kickback or side partition. All such pins are termed dead wood and must be removed before the next delivery.
No pins may be conceded, and only pins actually knocked down or moved entirely off the playing area of the lane surface as a result of a legal delivery may be counted."

So....I am not sure if it is considered down since it was moved off the lane surface and then ended back on the lane surface.

Snooker: Do or Die

antonye says...

Also worth noting that you get extra kudos for leaving the object ball (the pink in this case) in a position that will make it almost impossible to pot normally, such as against the cushion, and also making it so that to play the cue ball would mean stretching almost the full length of the table, making use of an extension and/or rest, to make things even harder!
But +1 for wanting to see the shots played after these

Snooker - Ronnie O'Sullivan final frame in Welsh Open Final

aaronfr says...

In theory, the player performing the break could pot a red and then continue on that break, but that would be extremely unlikely and probably a very bad move. At no point in snooker do you get two shots in one turn, not even on the break.

The break shot requires that the player hits a red ball first. Since the pink is at the top of the rack (the triangle of balls), this prevents the player from breaking like you would in a game of 8 or 9-ball. Therefore, you are unlikely to get a red ball to move with enough momentum to make it to a pocket. And if you did manage to do that, everything on the table would be scrambled to hell which does not lend itself to easy, predictable shots or high scores (following the red-black-red-black pattern).

So, instead, in snooker the perfect break sees the cue ball striking one of the bottom corner balls, sending it in to the bottom cushion with the momentum moving along the back line of balls sending the other corner ball into the side cushion. Ideally, both of those balls will return very close to their starting position with the rack essentially undisturbed. At the same time, you want the cue ball to move around the table and come to rest either against the top cushion (as far away from the reds as possible) or hidden behind the green, brown, or yellow ball.

TLDR: No, breaks in snooker are defensive in nature.

iaui said:

Thanks for the rules explanation. I have one more small question: What are the rules of the break? Does the initial break shot have to put a ball down in order for the breaker to continue play or does the breaker get a break shot and then a next shot no matter whether a ball is sunk or not?

Snooker - Ronnie O'Sullivan final frame in Welsh Open Final

aaronfr says...

If the "natural" spot for the ball is covered, as you noted it was originally, then it moves to the next open spot for a non-red ball on the table in descending order.

So first, it would have gone to the pink spot, but that was taken, after that comes the blue which is in the center of the table. Since the blue was out of position, this is where the black was placed in this frame. However, if all of the spots were covered, then the black would be placed as close as possible to its "natural" spot. It would be placed on the direct line between the near cushion and that spot without touching the "covering" ball. If that wasn't possible it would be placed between its spot and the far cushion.

lucky760 said:

Thanks ever so much for the detailed explanation. I was able to enjoy the entire 7+ minutes after reading that.

One question still remains for me though: How is the position of the black ball decided? It seems the position at the end of the table was covered by a red ball initially, so the old dude (is there a term for that character?) put it in the center of the table. What if the center of the table was also covered by another ball? Would it be placed at the other end? And if so, what if that was covered? Where then would it go?

Just curious. : )

Kind of sucks that the video starts after the break. I'd like to have seen that as well.

Bobcat Wood Cutter / splitter

chingalera says...

Lumberjack porn babies!
Used to be only manly men could split wood, now any fat-ass with 40K and a hemorrhoid cushion can turn a new-growth forest into greenhouse-gas pellets in a week

Mystic95Z said:

I'm thinking Ching's got wood for this splitter ...

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SFOGuy says...

Chin blow carries mechanical force from mandible directly to the skull with no soft tissue shock absorption along the way--and the direct mechanical force of the blow translates to fore-and-aft movement of the skull WITHOUT any rotation absorbing the energy---skull imparts blows force directly to soft tissue of the brain as the inertial mass of the brain leaves it standing in place, being sloshed through the normally cushioning layer of cerebral spinal fluid to make direct mechanical contact with the inside of the skull (albeit through the layers of the pia, mater and dura) ----forebrain and probably including midbrain structures---and then whipsaws backwards with a contra-coup impact on the back the brain as the head snaps back. (occiput/visual centers)

The mechanical impact of the brain tissue on the inside wall of the brain probably causes (now I'm guessing, but it's an informed guess) the neurons to respond to the blow with a mass ionic depolarization/electrical potential trigger---and concussion.

If he's only averagely unlucky, he'll also have a intra-cerebral/parenchymal micro bleeding---and if he's really unlucky, he'll keep getting in that ring and he'll end up like the NFL players with serial concussions or like Muhammed Ali. A demented, Parkinsonian cripple.

Don't get hit in the head.

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Cop Rear-Ends Motorcycle, Blames Rider

Shepppard says...

@Asmo

There's a SHIT load that the guy on the motorcycle did wrong, only one of the things being braking, and we'll cover that in a minute, but let me ask you, did you not happen to notice that the guy on the bike revs up before slamming on his brakes? He gets up to about 15-20 km and then decided to just stop flat. What people who don't ride motorcycles don't seem to realize is, you're literally THOUSANDS of pounds lighter than every other car around you. You can accelerate quicker, and brake quicker.

And when you jack-rabbit and put some distance between the person behind you, they'll likely speed up a bit. And when you decide you want to stop NOW! and they're still slightly accelerating because you decided to start doing so yourself a second ago, they still have a couple tons to stop, too.

Now, when you get trained to ride a motorcycle, you're specifically told: DO NOT ride the center line, or the pavement line when on a two or more lane road. You're supposed to drive defensively, I.e. Guarding your maneuvering area.

The car is trying to merge, he wants to be a nice guy and let him in, okay, cool. But at the end of the day, if the car can't make it in, tough shit for the car. You DO NOT ride the pavement line because it encourages other drivers to A) Cut you off, B) Pull around you, and C) Can lead to you being pushed off the road. The only exception to this rule is riding in a 3+ man formation, where the first and third rider are still (in a right lane) riding the middle line, while the second rider is at the pavement line, thus allowing all three riders a space cushion while maintaining their defensive positions.

And.. just, lastly, lets go ahead and put you in the cops shoes. Don't even imagine you're a cop, just think of this situation:

-Traffic is flowing nicely
-Motorcyclist is in front of you
-Motorcyclist pulls over to the wrong side of the lane
-Now having a clear line of sight, you see a car in the distance that wants to merge
-Car appears to have enough space, but won't turn in
-Motorcyclist revs up and starts to accelerate
-Motorcyclist slams on his brakes.

If that were in my shoes, I'd be screaming too. There's been local stories of people scamming insurance any way they can (deliberately getting hit in 4 way stops by waving at someone else to go first) so a person trying to get rear ended isn't out of the question. The motorcyclist is lucky to be alive, however. He seems to have completely disregarded EVERYTHING he was taught.

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chilaxe says...

If you live in a dystopia like NY, you have to leave a large cushion between yourself and anybody who looks sketchy.

That means being prepared to sprint the other direction at a moment's notice.

Europe is following the US in the process of ghetto-ization for all their cities, so the only non-dystopic cities left tend to be in Asia, like Singapore.

Plane tries to land, but land won't have it

Lendl says...

That's pretty much how my first attempt at landing in a glider went. Except I only hit the ground once when I stalled it at about 10 feet. It was 25 years ago but I can still hear the instructor saying, "Oh fuck." because of the wooden seats in the glider and he had no cushion.

Nothing like gliders to teach you how to land tho...there's no going around to try again.

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PancakeMaster says...

Well, I wasn't trying to put down the larger/native guys. They are crazy strong as well, but hide it under a nice cushion. I would love a chance to see a match in real life :]

It's pretty cool seeing a westerner fight it out in such a niche and nationally-identified sport.

>> ^TheSofaKing:

>> ^PancakeMaster:
I know he looks small compared to his opponents, but damn do you see his muscles!? Dude's strong yo!

Yup. Who would of thought that an athletic, muscular guy would be better at sports than big fat Japanese guys with man boobs.

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ulysses1904 says...

On the subject of stupid kids and fire, we were hanging out in the family room when I was a teen and I noticed the end of my lit cigarette got knocked off. I ignored it like a stoned idiot and we came back in the family room later to find the couch cushions smoldering. We dumped water on them and then my mom came home and smacked the crap outta us and made us put the cushions outside. Good thing she did, we woke up to find nothing but springs and wire outside instead of cushions.

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pumkinandstorm says...

In reply to this comment by dag:
I've been following this for a while - and I'm seriously rooting for this mission, but count me as one of the people who thinks this is crazy, hubristic and over-engineered with too many points of failure.

Mars is a graveyard of failed missions. The most successful method of getting a rover on Mars to date has been the bouncing cushion balls method. Why wouldn't you try and improve on that method instead of going with a completely, untested extremely complicated new method? I suspect personalities and nerd egos are involved.

I understand that the sheer size of this rover (small car) makes it too big for a single bouncing-ball drop, but why not then, do two and let them come together and connect on landing?

If this mission succeeds, I promise to post a Sift Talk post saying sorry for being a dick about this mission and lacking faith in our scientists. *promote.

Thank you for the promote Dag!



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