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Same Place Tomorrow?

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kulpims says...

hej, kp
the people in the town where Melania was born (Sevnica) were elated Trump won, it's a small shithole on the croatian border, so people think now that Trump won tourism will boom:) otherwise, no - we're not happy he won

kronosposeidon said:

Dude, is this a popular sentiment in Slovenia?

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/2016-election-day/melania-trump-s-slovenian-birthplace-very-proud-first-lady-n682046

I'm still fucking reeling from this election, though I'm a little better than I was yesterday. Maybe it's a good thing for Slovenia...? I mean Trump would send you guys military help if you needed it, probably before the rest of Europe.

Anyway, get your ass to Washington. Get a job in the new Trump administration. You could be Secretary of Agriculture. You guys are all farmers, right?

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oritteropo says...

Yeah, sounds like implementing the Croatian system would take more organisation than the Greeks have. Even the promised loan of tax department officials from Germany probably wouldn't be quite enough (and I'm not sure why Tsipras hasn't quietly taken up the offer, except that it does suit him to keep his cards close to his chest for now).

My confusion stems from every single article reading as if there is some compromise actually underway or imminent, but they never provide enough hints to work out what it might be... and anything I can think of is immediately proven false in the next update.

For instance, if Syriza had announced the €2B as an end to the suffering from austerity, and now the measures will only affect Government and the Oligarchs, then it would have made perfect sense... but instead both sides just keep giving out the same messages they have since the start.

I think it's possible they'll muddle through in the end, but at this point it's not at all clear how.

radx said:

If I remember correctly, the Croatians put everything else on hold when they introduced their system and had their entire staff out in the field for 6 months to enforce it. After that, the system was widely accepted and controls could be tuned down to a normal level.

Greece cannot go down the same route if most of what little bureacracy they have is still in cahoots with the previous nepotic governments. Maybe some third party can provide personnel for a few months...

The €2B come straight from our Tax Avoider in Chief, Juncker. Some say he's more of a federalist, more willing to compromise to keep the EZ together. Doesn't really matter though, Greece is too far down the rabbit hole.

As for Syriza: your guess is as good as mine. If they don't start praying to our Lord Austerity soon, the Troika won't hesitate to let them drown. And if they do get on their knees, Syriza will split and everything's back to square one.

oritteropo (Member Profile)

radx says...

If I remember correctly, the Croatians put everything else on hold when they introduced their system and had their entire staff out in the field for 6 months to enforce it. After that, the system was widely accepted and controls could be tuned down to a normal level.

Greece cannot go down the same route if most of what little bureacracy they have is still in cahoots with the previous nepotic governments. Maybe some third party can provide personnel for a few months...

The €2B come straight from our Tax Avoider in Chief, Juncker. Some say he's more of a federalist, more willing to compromise to keep the EZ together. Doesn't really matter though, Greece is too far down the rabbit hole.

As for Syriza: your guess is as good as mine. If they don't start praying to our Lord Austerity soon, the Troika won't hesitate to let them drown. And if they do get on their knees, Syriza will split and everything's back to square one.

oritteropo said:

That system looks really good, and exactly what Greece needs... provided they can come up with a way to get everyone to use it.

I've been reading each update, but only getting more puzzled... why do Syriza seem so unprepared? What's the deal with the announced billion euros of EU aid for the "humanitarian crisis"?

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radx says...

The bits and pieces that I've seen of Greece's new list of reforms includes a measure that is strikingly similar to this.

Good stuff. Even officials from Austria went down to Zagreb to check out this system, so kudos to our Croatian comrades for this "invention" of theirs.

A Very Smart Bird - Thirsty crow comes to humans for help.

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Stunt Woman

kulpims says...

I just read about this in Croatian press. the guy manning the bridge said that after jumping the 9 feet gap the driver and her female passenger, both in her 40's, stopped at the cafe on the other side for an espresso

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Bombs for peace? 'UN completely disgraced in Libya'

blankfist says...

>> ^volumptuous:

Sorry Blankey.
My very close Croatian friend is quite happy that the United Nations Protection Force helped save her and her family from certain death.
Not every military action is warmongering or rooting for violence. Maybe you should take her out for coffee one day and let her tell you stories about the dead bodies in the streets and how many young school friends are dead. Then maybe you should explain to her that while it's nice that she's not dead, but the US and UN should've just let her die because to do otherwise would be supporting violence and warmongering. And noone has any obligations to help anyone else, because we may have to be taxed one dollar each, and we all know that our own personal money is more important than keeping kids from being slaughtered.
I am in no way in support of the US actions in Libya. But these conflicts are not black&white.


So, if some good is done, then policing the world is justified? Good to know. And if you can work in some "I bet you won't tell this woman her family deserved to die" bullshit, that's good for bonus points! Bravo! Go Team America!


Bombs for peace? 'UN completely disgraced in Libya'

volumptuous says...

Sorry Blankey.

My very close Croatian friend is quite happy that the United Nations Protection Force helped save her and her family from certain death.

Not every military action is warmongering or rooting for violence. Maybe you should take her out for coffee one day and let her tell you stories about the dead bodies in the streets and how many young school friends are dead. Then maybe you should explain to her that while it's nice that she's not dead, but the US and UN should've just let her die because to do otherwise would be supporting violence and warmongering. And noone has any obligations to help anyone else, because we may have to be taxed one dollar each, and we all know that our own personal money is more important than keeping kids from being slaughtered.

I am in no way in support of the US actions in Libya. But these conflicts are not black&white.

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