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bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Trump has argued that he was never an officer of the United States to the Supreme Court. He says he wasn’t the president.
In 1982, Nixon v Fitzgerald, the court established that the president IS an officer of the United States, specifically the Chief Constitutional Officer of the Executive Branch, so if he wasn’t an officer, he wasn’t president. Apparently Habba doesn’t know how to google, much less how to research case law or she would have known. Fail #1

They also argue he didn’t personally engage in insurrection (he did, the election denial was an insurrection, all the fake electors were an insurrection, trying to invalidate millions of votes was an insurrection, trying to “find” enough votes to steal states he had lost is an insurrection, sending thousands to the Capitol to physically “stop the steal” was an insurrection) but they have completely ignored the “or given aid or comfort” part of the clause because he has absolutely given mountains of aid and comfort to those convicted of seditious insurrection by raising money for their defense, defending them publicly, calling them patriotic heroes, creating a song he sold for their benefit, and promising them pardons, so they have no defense to having given aid and comfort to insurrectionists along with most MAGA congresspeople. Prepare for their expulsion after Trump loses. Fail #2

Since he claims he was never an officer, so not really president, his immunity claims don’t even need to be litigated, only the actual president, highest OFICER in the American government AND the American military has any immunity and he says that was never him…and it’s only severely qualified immunity, not 100% total complete omnibus immunity…otherwise Biden/Harris would simply have Trump’s plane secretly shot down and claim total immunity….duh. Fail #3

Thanks Habba! Worst lawyer in American history trying some of the most important cases, and putting on invalid defenses she hasn’t thought through and in many cases completely forgetting to put on any defense at all. She’s the best lawyer in America that will stoop to defending Trump, and is guaranteeing he loses every case!

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Ooofff….$370 million is now what NY wants from Trump….and ending all his crime family’s business in the state forever.
What do you want to bet he doesn’t actually have that much?
No wonder the next Carrol case is making him shit his diapers even more than usual…she’s got the same expert witness that got Freeman and Moss $150 million for defamation and may get a similar judgement….another he likely can’t pay.

And remember how he promised that if he found out a foreign nation had spent any money at a Trump business he would donate every dime to the treasury? Didn’t happen, he made hundreds of millions through his properties from foreign nations that we already knew about, like Saudis and Chinese renting out entire floors in his hotels they never occupied, and recently another $7.8 million of unreported direct payments from China and others was uncovered before Comer dropped the investigation after looking at just two years of Trump’s business records from only 4 of his properties! It’s a 100% certainty that there are many many more times that amount involved if looked at in full.
Every dollar is a constitutional violation, violating the emoluments clause, not that constitutional violations mean squat to MAGgots.
Every penny is exactly what he ACCUSES the Bidens of doing with no evidence. Watch, Republicans will oppose strengthening laws and penalties regarding officials or their families taking money from foreign governments despite all their pearl clutching about the Bidens, because every accusation is an admission. You idiots can apparently only think up crimes you are actually already committing. 🤦‍♂️

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

You know the new MAGA slogan, right?

“Day One Dictator!”

I think you do considering how many times you used the phrase “day one” in your post (now erased) where you didn’t understand the concept of a prima facie case.

Yes, this is what they chant at MAGA rallies now. This is the phrase that gets the crowd excited, cheering and waiving their arms in jubilation at the idea of making America a dictatorship where the Trumps are the undisputed dictators for eternity.
And you see nothing wrong with that….because laws, civility, freedoms, you don’t care one bit about any of these unless they’re helping you be a nasty little shit stirrer, then you think they’re a great cudgel (look it up).

Trumps new favorite quote is “they’re poisoning the blood of our country”, a racist fascist quote direct from his hero and absolute favorite writer, Adolf Hitler.

Still waiting to know if you understand the concept of summary judgement based on a prima facie case yet. It’s a simple concept, but has so far eluded your comprehension. Did dumbing it down for you help?

Woohoo! The courts just ruled that Mark Meadows, and by extension all Trump officials including Trump, cannot move their state cases to federal court using the supremacy clause because 1) he is not a current federal employee and 2) his actions were not within the scope of his office but were campaign activities (and another Hatch act violation) so not covered by the law anyway. Another total loss in court, this one far reaching for all Trumpist defendants hoping to escape the charges.

How many emotions can you fit into four seconds

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

“Did you ever think that the values were off in your statement of financial condition?” Assistant Attorney General Kevin Wallace asked the former president,
“yes, on occasion” Trump responded
😂

Case closed. That’s it. That’s Trump admitting he knowingly and willfully committed major bank and tax fraud…”on occasion”.

He tried the “I have a disclaimer clause so I’m allowed to lie as much as I want.” defense…Engoron has already ruled that the clause does not absolve him of the responsibility to provide true and accurate reports of property values to both lenders and the state, does not allow him to lie or substitute possible future value for today’s actual value, and doesn’t allow the exaggeration of square footage either…all of which he admitted on the stand that he does.

Letting Trump testify was the worst decision Habba has made yet, and it’s going to end in both a total loss in court, a minimum of $250 million in damages maybe much more, and criminal charges against Trump and maybe his kids for the frauds. He would have been infinitely better off staying silent and just losing…but we all know remaining silent is an impossibility for him.

Edit-He’s in check mate for Jan 6 by Chutkan too. He’s saying publicly that he intends to use an “advice of council” defense, trying to claim he just got bad advice that he could foment a coup and send fake electors to steal the election so shouldn’t be libel, but he and his dime store lawyers didn’t understand that that defense waives 100% of attorney client privilege and now he’s being forced to decide if he will use that defense before trial and if so must disclose all communications with his lawyers from 2020-21. 😂

So in short, either disclose all records of his planning for Jan 6 and the big lie which itself would disprove and negate his advice of council defense, or forget the advice of council defense, the only defense he had.
😂 Would the prisoner like a blindfold or a cigarette? 😂

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Once again,
Trump's legal team told a judge in Colorado last week that he had no "duty" as president to actually honor the Constitution. (Not sure what he thinks “preserve and protect” means).
This argument is his defense in Colorado. Not that he didn’t engage in an insurrection, but that the 14th amendment doesn’t apply to the president.

I guess it’s game on for Biden who cannot be removed by any means now, and has carte Blanche to try a coup or just end elections outright because the constitution doesn’t regulate what the president does. 🤦‍♂️

This is you guy…this you pick. 😂

BTW- these facts are from every single reputable news outlet, so not righty media, and are in fact what he filed in Colorado court as his defense to being removed from the ballot for participating in an insurrection.

https://lawandcrime.com/trump/trump-claims-the-insurrection-clause-does-not-apply-to-the-president-or-prohibit-someone-from-running-for-office/

https://apnews.com/article/trump-insurrection-14th-amendment-ballot-colorado-c699e7c00687be6bc4bedbaf4182e451

https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/trump-tells-court-had-no-220216709.html

He also claimed absolute immunity for fomenting a coup because stealing the election was part of his official duty as the ex-president… https://newrepublic.com/article/176052/trump-jan-6-absolute-immunity-argument-even-worse-looks

PS- I’m still waiting, now 7 years later, for what the charges against Clinton are going to be and when will they be filed. You insisted repeatedly after the election when Republicans held the house, senate, Supreme Court, and presidency that charges and prison would come amazingly soon….still waiting. Still no answer 7 years later. It couldn’t be that you just spout wishful nonsense and insist it’s reality, could it? 😂

bobknight33 said:

Getting "facts" from a cereal box are not facts. Quit being so gullible.

surfingyt (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Could that be Hunter, the DC DA and the Georgia DA that all are now ‘sposta file charges…because reports are all 3 have begun that process.

She sent the same revenge porn in a non age gated newsletter to her constituents in Georgia, sending porn directly to children and posting revenge porn…two crimes in one.
That’s industrial level child sex grooming from the cuckholding manly tranny Greene. 😂

Georgia law- Revenge porn is an aggravated misdemeanor if the offender posts the photograph or video on any other electronic means. This offense carries a prison sentence of up to 12 months and a $5,000 fine. Repeat offenders face harsher penalties as second and subsequent revenge porn charges become felonies. In that case, repeat revenge porn is punishable by one to five years in jail and/or a fine of up to $100,000.

The second offense in one day, so it’s already into the “subsequent charges” phase. She sent it over 100000 times, she could get the longest sentence in history, 100000-500000 years just for Georgia! Holy shit!

Also Georgia law- (e) (1) A person commits the offense of obscene Internet contact with a child if he or she has contact with someone he or she knows to be a child or with someone he or she believes to be a child via a computer on-line service or Internet service, including but not limited to a local bulletin board service, Internet chat room, e-mail, or on-line messaging service, and the contact involves any matter containing explicit verbal descriptions or narrative accounts of sexually explicit nudity, sexual conduct, sexual excitement, or sadomasochistic abuse that is intended to arouse or satisfy the sexual desire of either the child or the person, provided that no conviction shall be had for a violation of this subsection on the unsupported testimony of a child.

(2) Any person who violates paragraph (1) of this subsection shall be guilty of a felony and, upon conviction thereof, shall be punished by imprisonment for not less than one nor more than ten years or by a fine of not more than $10,000.00; provided, however, that, if at the time of the offense the victim was 14 or 15 years of age and the defendant was no more than three years older than the victim, then the defendant shall be guilty of a misdemeanor of a high and aggravated nature.
Another 1-10 years for every minor that got her newsletter!

DC law- If the sexual image is shared with 6 or more persons through “publication,” either directly or by uploading to the Internet, then the offense is First-Degree Unlawful Publication of a Sexual Image. This is a felony offense punishable by up to 3 years in prison and/or a fine of $12,500.

Because this is a crime, not legislative activity, and transmitted both in the form of an electronic newsletter (uploaded to the internet) and statement to the press, she has no immunity….specifically listed in the speech and debate clause as exemptions to immunity.

Hunter also has civil cases in both DC and Georgia worth tens of millions each. Bye MTG. 😂

Not to mention the federal laws she broke by publishing the documents she swore under oath to not share or publish before she could see them.

surfingyt said:

suck it @bobknight33 bobby boy. yaboylost! LOL


bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

D’oh!
Two new $1 billion+- lawsuits against Fox. One by its shareholders against the company for lying about the election, which was obviously going to hurt the value of the company when revealed. They had a fiduciary duty to shareholders to not destroy their company. A duty they ignored for over a year.
The second case by shareholders is against the board, officers, directors, owners, and fiduciaries to recover every dollar they were paid during the frauds. Lol…this includes Paul Ryan.

I know, you say you don’t watch Fox (although you quote and post them constantly), but even you know that Fox is the architect of the far right, and without their political blueprints the right will be fighting itself with no direction. Oof.

They also just dropped a defamation suit against Crikey, an Australian company that called them “unindicted co conspirators of Jan 6” and had refused to even discuss settling because they have the Dominion evidence proving it’s true and wanted to use it in court to expose Fox in ways Dominion hadn’t. Fox knew they had no case, it being the truth is a defense, and dropped it after months of being raked over the coals in the Australian press. They must pay all of Crikey’s legal fees.
The chickens are coming home to roost, and they are pissed off and ready to shit all over the lying righty media cabal.


Bonus- Trump just failed to exclude other women he raped and tried to rape from his civil rape case. His lawyers are acting like this is their first trial ever, submitting motions weeks after deadlines…motions with no reasoning, no new evidence, and filed well after their deadlines. You get the shyster you deserve.

Second bonus- Traitor Greene has been referred to the ethics oversight committee for libel and slander against Hunter Biden. Because there is no legislative reason for her defamatory and false statements (like accusing him of human trafficking), insulting photos with completely false descriptions (like a photo of him driving his young nieces to school Greene posted labeling it “Hunter was on crack wheeling and dealing with CCP ties and prostitutes with classified documents laying around the garage.”). Because there could be no legislative reason for publicly posting such libelous baseless lies she lost her immunity from the speech and debate clause. I hope he says he had designs on being president and her libel cost him a few hundred million dollars, she deserves to be relegated to public assistance at the lowest level she ever advocated for…her family would leave immediately without her under the table income, she’s horrific, especially to her family.
This witch hunt against a private citizen is going to fuck you guys so hard, and I’m going to be there with popcorn to denigrate you as you get violated over and over and over and over and over. The next 18 months are going to be SWEET….and I can’t wait to see who you criminals come up with to run…so many will be in prison or barred from office! BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHA! I LOVE IT WHEN A PLAN COMES TOGETHER.

AND- Turns out that while Clarence Thomas was taking millions in gifts from Harlin Crow, Crow actually DID have cases in front of the Supreme Court and, big surprise, Thomas voted in his favor every time. More MAGA destruction of America.

Tesla Cam captures INSANE crash

newtboy says...

Logically no matter what it should be truck owner. He/she is responsible first and foremost because proper maintenance is the owner’s responsibility and your wheel coming off is proof of improper maintenance.

If they could prove a shop mounted the wheel wrong….forgot lug nuts, used broken studs, put the nuts on finger tight…they could likely sue, but proving that would be impossible without close up video at the shop of the faulty parts/installation.

#3 is possible, but only after proof of a known design flaw that makes the wheel come off is established. Good luck. This is what Tesla is up against with their self driving software, but only after multiple deaths and many crashes.

Most aftermarket parts have limited liability clauses limiting their liability to replacement of the defective part, not even labor. I know my lift kits had multiple warnings and liability releases in the instructions/warranties. Not total immunity if they intentionally sell dangerously defective parts, but definitely a difficult thing to prove.

I’m not a lawyer, but I have them in the immediate family (grandpa), so I have a little bit of an idea how this usually works in court.

visionep said:

I hope everyone escaped without long term injuries.

I wonder how liability works in a case like this.

Possible scenarios:
1. Freak accident, no one is liable.
2. Truck owner is liable, but only because they modified their car from manufacturer spec?
3. Truck manufacturer is liable, faulty construction?
4. State or federal government is liable because of something in the road that make the truck's tire fall off.
5. After market kit provider or after market kit installer is liable because their modification lead to the failure that caused the tire to come off.

I wonder how it all worked out.

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Ruh-Roe…..THE CALL WAS COMING FROM INSIDE THE (white)HOUSE!!

Former Republican Congressman Denver Riggleman who worked for the Jan. 6 Committee gave an interview where he said The White House switchboard connected with the phone of an insurrectionist WHILE IT WAS INSIDE THE CAPITOL BUILDING on January 6.
The Jan 6 committee has the switchboard records.
This could now put Trump in direct legal jeopardy over Jan 6, and someone directly involved in an insurrection cannot be president, not even from prison.

Ruh roe again, seems DeSantis is definitely guilty of federal kidnapping by inveiglement, transporting someone across state lines based on false promises or facts. Here’s something to simply explain what kidnapping by inveiglement means, note a minor cannot consent and there were minors involved…
https://www.mass.gov/doc/6575-kidnapping-by-trickery-or-deceit-inveigle-gl-c-265-ss-26-clause-3/download

The Shopping Cart Theory

BicycleRepairMan says...

I have left the shopping cart. but only because I had small kids in the car. But then again having kids is a perpetual state of emergency, so I guess it falls under that clause, and I might be welcomed back into civilization.

Let's talk about altering the Supreme Court....

newtboy says...

The Fourth Amendment explicitly affirms the “right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures.” The Fifth Amendment in its Self-Incrimination Clause enables the citizen to create a zone of privacy which government may not force him to surrender. The 14th amendment “due process clause” has been interpreted to also affirm a right to privacy.

https://www.aclu.org/other/students-your-right-privacy

Sure sounds like rights to privacy are right there in the bill of rights though, an addendum to the constitution, as explained in numerous Supreme Court rulings.

<SIGH>. I thought you said “Pedantry is tiresome. Tell your friends.” Maybe take your own advice?

Some light reading…. In January 1973, the Supreme Court issued a 7–2 decision in McCorvey's favor ruling that the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution provides a "right to privacy" that protects a pregnant woman's right to choose whether to have an abortion. It also ruled that this right is not absolute and must be balanced against governments' interests in protecting women's health and prenatal life.[4][5] The Court resolved this balancing test by tying state regulation of abortion to the three trimesters of pregnancy: during the first trimester, governments could not prohibit abortions at all; during the second trimester, governments could require reasonable health regulations; during the third trimester, abortions could be prohibited entirely so long as the laws contained exceptions for cases when they were necessary to save the life or health of the mother.[5] The Court classified the right to choose to have an abortion as "fundamental", which required courts to evaluate challenged abortion laws under the "strict scrutiny" standard, the highest level of judicial review in the United States.

dogboy49 said:

To me, the current crop of justices seem to be less willing to deviate from the Constitution as written. Should abortion be allowed? IMO, yes. BUT, are laws banning abortion unconstitutional? According to the Constitution as written and amended, probably not. Roe v Wade was written by a court that believed that abortion and the "right to privacy" should carry the weight of constitutional law, even though the Constitution is silent on these "rights".

My suggestion: If abortion should be considered to be a "right", then so amend the Constitution. Otherwise, it will be subject to the vagaries of "interpretation" forever.

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

And now Republicans in at least 5 states have been caught having submitted matching forged election documents, Georgia, Nevada, Arizona (twice), Wisconsin, and Michigan. These forgeries, complete with forged seals from their respective states, attempted to “certify” fraudulent electors from those states that intended to cast their electoral votes for Trump despite their states voting for Biden, that vote being certified, and the real electors being certified.
Pennsylvania too, but they didn’t try to claim they were the electors, they claimed they would be the electors if a court invalidated the election results….created at the direct personal request of the DJTrump campaign.

Jeff Clark, of the DOJ, drafted a letter telling states to hold off on certification because the DOJ was investigating election irregularities…..but they weren’t and the DOJ head, the AG, refused to sign off, so Trump accepted his resignation, the resignation of the assistant AG, and tried to install Clark so they could send this fraudulent letter about a non existent investigation of non existent election fraud. In that letter he referenced the “second set of electors” two weeks after these forgeries were submitted to congress and elsewhere but long before that was public knowledge.

Another few attempts by Republicans to subvert democracy.

Apparently Trump also flew the idea of having the national guard confiscate all voting machines and rerunning the election (until he won).

Why the entire party isn’t banned from holding office is beyond me, your representatives all undeniably violated (and continue to violate) section 3 of the 14th amendment, and you’ll never get 2/3 of congress to let that slide.

No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.

For the few that weren’t directly involved in the failed coup, the “aid and comfort” clause covers their behavior since.

Terry Pratchett on Why we need to believe in things...

BSR says...

First you believe in Santa Claus
Then you don't believe in Santa Claus
Then you become Santa Clause

crotchflame said:

"You need to believe in things that aren't true...how else can they become?"

All well and good when you're talking about justice and mercy, but what about election fraud?

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