I'm upvoting the video and the program for shining light into these matters, but I disagree with his argument in this particular situation.

As a person living in NYC, I've had my share of bomb threat experiences. The closet one I've had was back in 2008 or 2009 when a man from Jackson Heights was planning to bomb the 42nd street Times Square station via the 7 train line. I too was living in Jackson Heights at the time, and know that there is a sizable Afghani and Pakistani community there.

I used to pick up lunch and did my groceries from Indian restaurants and supermarkets. And when I've heard of the news of this terrorist attack attempt, I personally felt the dangers and the seriousness of the problem. The alleged attacker was from the very community I was living in, where I assumed I knew and was comfortable in, in the same neighborhood and rode the same train I rode in.

But the most important point to me was that this man was willing to sacrifice people's lives, not just any people but his own community, to get the job done. he wasn't planning to bomb the wall street, the city hall or U.N. Building. This man was going to plant the bomb on the 7 train line, the exact same line where majority of riders are from Jackson Heights.

The most shocking point of the story is that he got the terrorist attack idea from his local imam from a Mosque in Jackson Heights. Their own fucking neighborhood. And yet, the community had no idea about their doings.

Now this got me thinking. if you are a muslim, you must take care of your community and throw out the bad seeds. When someone is using your name or what you stand for something you do not identify yourself with, PUT A STOP TO IT. Blissful ignorance does not help anyone. These crazed people from your own neighborhood was about to kill you, and yet nobody had any idea this was happening in the community.

Just claiming that you are different from them, and blaming others for not being able to tell the difference is an excuse to your laziness. You haven't done anything to pull yourself apart, and identify those who are different from what you stand for. If the muslim community was more active in sifting out the bad seeds from their own community, then there would be no need for government to step in and invade your privacy. It is ultimately your laziness that gets your rights violated.

You live in this country, you live in the same neighborhood, your life is threatened by the psychos who really don't care how many innocent people they kill, including people of their own community, as long as they do whatever they feel like doing. This is YOUR problem (more like your life) as it is for every other ethnic groups in your community. Stop being selfish, stop being lazy. Stop making excuses. If you want your rights back, then TAKE CHARGE OF YOUR COMMUNITY FIRST.

>> ^quantumushroom:

Amusing, but when the video ends, you still have a herd of homeless overunning a public park. There's a time and place, peeps, and there are plenty of places willing to feed the homeless. The real trolls are the feeders, trying to make a "statement" about how the city treats its homeless, but when it's people who refuse to help themselves, no city or charity can 'save' them.^{[citation needed]}
Do liberals know who the homeless are, besides useful tools for 'activism'? Forget Hollywood bullsh1t, these are not the down-on-luck, hat-in-hand, willing-to-work hopefuls of yesteryear. Discounting the mentally ill, many are belligerent bums who demand handouts (wonder where they got their sense of entitlement)?^{[citation needed]}
In one of the downtown cities here, these lovable tramps sleep on the steps of city hall and have taken to pissing anywhere they feel like. The stench is so bad, city trucks drive around each morning spraying the streets and alleys with restroom cherry or lemon deodorant.^{[citation needed]}
Maybe Clever Goofus should go to each small business in the area and explain why bums who drive away potential shoppers are good for the local economy as well as tax base.^{[citation needed]}


http://xkcd.com/285/
FTFY;

Amusing, but when the video ends, you still have a herd of homeless overunning a public park. There's a time and place, peeps, and there are plenty of places willing to feed the homeless. The real trolls are the feeders, trying to make a "statement" about how the city treats its homeless, but when it's people who refuse to help themselves, no city or charity can 'save' them.

Do liberals know who the homeless are, besides useful tools for 'activism'? Forget Hollywood bullsh1t, these are not the down-on-luck, hat-in-hand, willing-to-work hopefuls of yesteryear. Discounting the mentally ill, many are belligerent bums who demand handouts (wonder where they got their sense of entitlement)?

In one of the downtown cities here, these lovable tramps sleep on the steps of city hall and have taken to pissing anywhere they feel like. The stench is so bad, city trucks drive around each morning spraying the streets and alleys with restroom cherry or lemon deodorant.

Maybe Clever Goofus should go to each small business in the area and explain why bums who drive away potential shoppers are good for the local economy as well as tax base.

The leaps in logic needed to have created this ordinance, are astounding.
They did the LAST thing that should be done.

First, they could have created the system, without it being mandatory, so that anyone who wanted to join in, could do so if they wanted to.

Secondly, anyone who didn't want to participate in the system, would automatically forfeit their right to sue city hall and the fire department over a broken window or door in case of a false alarm.

And only as a third and stupid option would someone create this mandatory system for everyone. It's absolutely ridiculous

First of all, I hope that driver will be found and fully prosecuted for their violent temper tantrum assault. Why didn't the bike riders just pull over to one lane and let traffic pass? If you're going to protest in that inconsiderate fashion, you would think they would be organized/prepared to allow people to pass. Other wise you are just going to alienate those who are indifferent, and could end up resenting Critical Mass come elections and budget cutting season. Bike lane maintenance is a very excusable cut. So one would think winning over the public might be a good overall idea.

After reading up on Critical Mass, they really should find a more efficient way to get their message across. While I see a random protest sign in this video their message remains clouded. Ever heard of the billboard effect? It seems like their message isn't getting out, unless you consider random acts of violence like this to be getting the message out. Ever hear of picketing city hall, after all that's where the decisions they're protesting originate.

>> ^Trancecoach:

Harold


... was never his name.

Also, those dicks at city hall already altered the name of his street. It used to be Harry Baals Drive.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_balls

Definitely not Central Park.

I think you got it right. This is the backdrop @ 0:57.>> ^legacy0100:

Is that City Hall Park at 0:46? or is it still Central Park? I'm not exactly sure.

Is that City Hall Park at 0:46? or is it still Central Park? I'm not exactly sure.

You want christmas instead of seasons greetings? fine. Just leave all of your holier than thou WE and OUR christ are the reason for the season bull out of it. You represent your insanity on your lawn, and all the other nutters can do the same on theirs. If a private store wants to do something similar? Fine. But on public property (parks, courthouse, city hall) if you put up a manger I don't want any complaints if anyone with a rational sense of history puts up a disclaimer right next to it pointing out every flaw and contradiction in the bible itself about your so called savior being born of a *young woman* in the proper original Hebrew translation, and not a virgin. Perhaps even another display right next to it pointing out the 100 or so other so called deities who have been born of virgins as well as rising from the dead in 3 days or less.

http://news.nationalpost.com/2010/06/26/adam-vaughan-warned-it-was-a-bad-idea/

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Prime Minister Stephen Harper has something to answer for tonight. It is hard for this writer to escape the feeling that this summit was designed with every possible star aligned for ugliness to occur. The summit is held on a summer weekend, after university and high school exams are over; all the students are out and free and have time on their hands. Summer weather is perfect for a march. The summit takes place in the heart of Toronto: everybody in Canada has a friend in Toronto where they can stay during a protest.

And can we not say that assembling the greatest number of police in one spot in the history of Canada, and spending more on fences and security than Canada has ever spent before, has a provocative effect?

This writer is not condoning violence. I stood for an hour on the steps of Old City Hall today and looked down Bay Street at smoke and flames rising from burning police cars. I walked up Yonge and saw all the windows smashed. I saw the hundreds of black riot police massed at Queen’s Park. I saw the dozens of plainclothes police get out of unmarked cars and mix with the crowd, ready for trouble.

The city we know and cherish and love is on her knees tonight. There is nothing to cheer about. Many have something to answer for: the protesters, for behaving poorly, the media, for egging them on, and Mr. Harper, for choosing to have his summit at this place, at this time."

Let's see this get published right in time for Hallowe'en. Heh, the hanging at Nathan Phillips square - Toronto City Hall - trippy.

I added the EIA charge not only because he could've easily goten himself killed, but because he freakin' showed up in court for a bail hearing later that day, where police, not surprisingly, recognized and arrested him.

"A Toronto man was arrested in a downtown courthouse this morning, accused of lighting a TTC bus ablaze early yesterday morning.

Steven Edwards, 28, was at Old City Hall for a bail hearing on other charges when cops from 53 Division charged him with assault, common nuisance, assault, fail to comply with recognizance, mischief interfere with property, five counts of weapons dangerous and two counts of arson — one for damage to property and the other for disregard for human life."

Because aiding in the death (and knowing you're doing it) is anything at all like being a clerk at the city hall.

@MarineGunrock,
i dont think you quite got what i was attempting to express.
i was stating that this was a protest,you may disagree with his methods,i dont.
Noam chomsky said this most succinctly"the man pulling the lever at the gas chamber in auschwitz may be a fantastic individual,a good husband and father,but he was still responsible for the execution of untold jews.gypsy's,gays and christians".
it is the silent,passive consent that i was talking about,not taxes.
this man was polite,never raised his voice,he was protesting.
dont you think he had a point?
when did non-violent protesting become an offense that merits jail?
how..HOW in the supposed land of the free can we have more people incarcerated than any other country COMBINED?..HOW?

i do,however,totally agree that people need to make a living.it is by choice that i refuse to work for some institutions,but thats MY choice.if i have to dick you over for some cash...well..thats something im not willing to do,and i pay the consequences by not having the most stable income.
i do not judge those who DO choose those jobs,but at the same time..they chose those jobs.and if that means dealing with a protester who may make them feel uncomfortable about it...well..so be it.
because thats the only beef i really see in your argument.
that this man was interrupting "business",but when asked to leave by the police,thats exactly what he did.
made his point..moved on.
you disagree with him...
i do not.
i believe in our forefathers intent for free speech,and redress against the government.sometimes protesting is the only way to get your message out.you ever try to speak at a city hall meeting?
good luck with that.
these are some articles that i employ often:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federalist_Papers
hope that cleared things up MGR.
peace.

What isn't shown in this video is the shoe store behind the cameraman that paid the city hall to have the street opened a little sooner than usual